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I have a 1971, 22' MacGeregor Venture with a 1975 two cycle, 6 HP Evenrude outboard and have always found it more than adequate. There have been times where I have power sailed at above 7 knots and powered at above 6 knots (THE HULL SPEED IS APPROX. 5.5 KNOTS.)You really want to be in the 3/4 and above range when powering for longer distances. Novelman
I have a 1971, 22' MacGeregor Venture with a 1975 two cycle, 6 HP Evenrude outboard and have always found it more than adequate. There have been times where I have power sailed at above 7 knots and powered at above 6 knots (THE HULL SPEED IS APPROX. 5.5 KNOTS.)You really want to be in the 3/4 and above range when powering for longer distances. Novelman
Agree
Iam in agreement with John. An 8 should be more than enough to push that boat at hull speed, any more HP than that is just a waste. You just don't gain anything after that. Plus a bunch more weight. 25 would be total excess.
Iam in agreement with John. An 8 should be more than enough to push that boat at hull speed, any more HP than that is just a waste. You just don't gain anything after that. Plus a bunch more weight. 25 would be total excess.
A 9.9 is over kill
but you could use it. I had an Johnson Sailmaster 8 HP engine on a San Jaun 21. Worked Great. 8 is perfect.
but you could use it. I had an Johnson Sailmaster 8 HP engine on a San Jaun 21. Worked Great. 8 is perfect.
Depends on the bracket.
The motor bracket is what's rated for a maximum amount and it was embossed into the bracket sides.. Therefore, that would be it. I used to sail a C25 and an 8hp Evinrude pushed it just fine. The brackett for that one was rated at 20hp.
The motor bracket is what's rated for a maximum amount and it was embossed into the bracket sides.. Therefore, that would be it. I used to sail a C25 and an 8hp Evinrude pushed it just fine. The brackett for that one was rated at 20hp.
A 22 foot what?
What kind of 22' boat? Weight, windage and freeboard, will be a factor. The J22 that I sail has a 4hp Nissan. Adequate for a lake - even when powering into a nasty squall windstorm or thunderstorm microburst. A heavier boat, or one with more windage to the hull, a cruiser, may need more power. For most 22' sailboats, I would think more than 6-8hp overkill, 25' boats typically only need 8-10. I think I'd go with a 6hp motor for a 22' cruiser that was heavier and has more windage than the J22, as 6hp weighs similar to a 4hp, at least with the newer Nissan/Tohatsu; and an 8hp is quite a bit more weight. I would want to keep sailing performance high. OC
What kind of 22' boat? Weight, windage and freeboard, will be a factor. The J22 that I sail has a 4hp Nissan. Adequate for a lake - even when powering into a nasty squall windstorm or thunderstorm microburst. A heavier boat, or one with more windage to the hull, a cruiser, may need more power. For most 22' sailboats, I would think more than 6-8hp overkill, 25' boats typically only need 8-10. I think I'd go with a 6hp motor for a 22' cruiser that was heavier and has more windage than the J22, as 6hp weighs similar to a 4hp, at least with the newer Nissan/Tohatsu; and an 8hp is quite a bit more weight. I would want to keep sailing performance high. OC
Nissan/Tohatsu 6hp
I had a Honda 8HP on my Catalina 22. Great motor but too heavy and more HP than needed. Sold it and bought a Nissan 6HP which, at 55lbs, is less than 1/2 the Honda weight. It does make a diference since that weight is hanging off the transom. Be aware that Nissan, Tohatsu, and Mercury small (4, 6, 8HP) outboards are all the exact same motor and all made by Tohatsu. The HP differences are due to carburation. I bought mine online at onlineoutboards.com and am very happy with the motor and the service from the vendor.
I had a Honda 8HP on my Catalina 22. Great motor but too heavy and more HP than needed. Sold it and bought a Nissan 6HP which, at 55lbs, is less than 1/2 the Honda weight. It does make a diference since that weight is hanging off the transom. Be aware that Nissan, Tohatsu, and Mercury small (4, 6, 8HP) outboards are all the exact same motor and all made by Tohatsu. The HP differences are due to carburation. I bought mine online at onlineoutboards.com and am very happy with the motor and the service from the vendor.
OB for 22 foot Mac
After looking at several 22' Macs for sale and their specs - I cannot see why it would be much different than the J22 in terms of power needs. 4hp will do in protected waters, 6 if you have chop to contend with. I can't really see why this size boat would need more than 6 and the extra weight can't do the sailing performance any good. The only caveat to my experience here is that I sail on lakes, where 4hp IS enough - it would be nice if you could find a Mac or similar type boat owner who has to deal with more waves. OC
After looking at several 22' Macs for sale and their specs - I cannot see why it would be much different than the J22 in terms of power needs. 4hp will do in protected waters, 6 if you have chop to contend with. I can't really see why this size boat would need more than 6 and the extra weight can't do the sailing performance any good. The only caveat to my experience here is that I sail on lakes, where 4hp IS enough - it would be nice if you could find a Mac or similar type boat owner who has to deal with more waves. OC
does the 22' w/ 25 HP have a swing keel?
It just may get up on plane w/ the keel up. Some of those 22's are light boats. Water skiing anyone?
It just may get up on plane w/ the keel up. Some of those 22's are light boats. Water skiing anyone?
Mac power
Relax. Neither a Mac22 or a 25 is going to plane, esp. with 25hp, although they are very flat behind the keel and look like they could. And why run a swingkeel aground with the keel up, when you need it extended a little for steering control and depth finding? Mine doesn't have much directional stability without a little board showing, and its sounding qualitites are totally convenient.
Also a 9.9 motor is not excessive at all; that's what I use. The worst thing about it is unshipping it for trailering. Unfortunately none of these sizes are going to hold the stern down and prevent cavitating when there is crew forward. I agree with most here, 4hp for lakes, 6-8hp for protected water. Now if you have a Flicka or Channel Cutter, 25hp might be right.
Relax. Neither a Mac22 or a 25 is going to plane, esp. with 25hp, although they are very flat behind the keel and look like they could. And why run a swingkeel aground with the keel up, when you need it extended a little for steering control and depth finding? Mine doesn't have much directional stability without a little board showing, and its sounding qualitites are totally convenient.
Also a 9.9 motor is not excessive at all; that's what I use. The worst thing about it is unshipping it for trailering. Unfortunately none of these sizes are going to hold the stern down and prevent cavitating when there is crew forward. I agree with most here, 4hp for lakes, 6-8hp for protected water. Now if you have a Flicka or Channel Cutter, 25hp might be right.- Status