How to remove black oil stains from bilge

Mar 29, 2005
50
Hunter 41 Aft Cockpit Herring Bay, MD
I have removed the water and oil from the bilge and sprayed the stains with degreasers purchased from West Marine. However, the black stains at the bottom of the bilge are very stubborn, and I can't remove them with a scrub brush and the degreasers. (The oil is from a catastrophic leak in a Fischer Panda generator engine (Kubota).) I don't want to use anything flammable.
 
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Oct 2, 2008
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Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
When we bought our boat the bilge under the engine was black and I let it go. Since then we've had an oil leak, antifreeze leak, and diesel from me changing the fuel filter and we now see a white bilge. I cleaned the bilge with Simple Green after each spill. Maybe once with bilge cleaner. We're in the Solomons at Calverts for two days If you want to look.
 
Mar 29, 2005
50
Hunter 41 Aft Cockpit Herring Bay, MD
To All U Get: I suspect the difference between your positive experience using Simple Green and my negative experience with the same product (and one other) is the fact that my oil leak went unnoticed for a longer period of time and my oil loss was more extensive in my case. Simple Green did work on incidental fresh oil drips on uncontaminated parts of the bilge that occurred during my cleaning efforts that created the drips. Thanks, of course.
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
At some point cleaning is going to stop working. If you have cleaned the surface of oil, then perhaps it is time for a sanding, and paint. Once the carbon black from the engine oil penetrates the glass and gel coat coaxing it back out is not likely.

I think that is why they invented epoxy paints. To paint over the mistakes and misadventures that happen now and then.
 
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Mar 29, 2005
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Hunter 41 Aft Cockpit Herring Bay, MD
To jssailem: I do not doubt the truth of what you say, but epoxy paint has a couple of downsides. It's flammable and toxic to breath. I was hoping for something stronger than what I have used but not as dangerous as epoxy in the confined spaces of a bilge. Moreover, even though I mentioned that I was looking for a stain remover, there is still oily gunk in hard to scrub spaces between keel bolts and bilge pump and associated devices and wires. Also I cannot reach large parts of the bilge to sand the stains. Thanks!
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I know the issue you have. My bilge is 4feet deep. When I got my boat I had to pump maybe 180 gallons of water oil and unmentionable liquid from the bilge. Took better part of a weekend moving it to the ports contamination container from the boat in 5gallon buckets. Now I still am working on the last 1/2 inch near the bottom of the bilge. That said once finished and finally scrubbed/pressure washed the best results will be paint. Sure Epoxy paint is a application challenge. But it is the best way to seal the bilge against future staining. Fortunately the solvents are lighter than air so they will not settle in the bilge. A proper breathing filter for organic fumes, and ventilation(fan pumping air into bilge via a large duct and the bilge open to the air will address your risks). Or you can have a professional do the work and deal with the risk to the boat for not following the rules and normal precautions.

The beauty of all this is it’s just my idea and experience. The boat is yours and your decision to resolve the problems. I’m interested in how you solve them cause I’m constantly learning from the members here.
 
Mar 29, 2005
50
Hunter 41 Aft Cockpit Herring Bay, MD
To: jssailem: Thanks for the additional detail. I think a pressure wash is worth a try, especially for those hard-to-scrub places, but I am concerned the automatic bilge pump will pump oil-contaminated residue into the water. (We are still in our slip.) Not sure how you collected the bilge water for disposal after application of the pressure washer??? I do/did have an oil changer, but it conked out in the process of cleaning the bilge.
 
Aug 1, 2011
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Catalina 270 255 Wabamun. Welcome to the marina
We rented a machine known as a "Hotsy" last year to go after the birch tree poop on the driveway that had collected up after 18 years, and it was amazing. Very hot water at high pressure is pretty serious stuff, and the cloud of diesel that enveloped the neighbours house was worth the rental price!
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
@VelaFella First action was to turn off or unplug the bilge pump (not sure about your boat, but the pump maybe wired to the battery or to a powered block and you just need to remove the wire from the positive connection). Should be no problem while you are on the boat doing work.

Squirt with cleaners then wash done bilge with water. What I did was back the boat up to the dock and used the hand pump to pump the water from the bilge. I caught the bilge water in a bucket as it came out the thruhull. You can also use a wet vac with a long enough hose. Then dump the water in the ports contaminated water tank.
 
Aug 22, 2017
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Hunter 26.5 West Palm Beach
Different cleaners attack different kinds of crud. You may need to use a few different things, one after the other. Simple Green has received a mixed review here. It has worked well for me in many situations, some of which were fairly extreme, like rehabilitating 1920's vintage machinery. I consider that to be a very good place to start. A de-greasing cleaner like Purple Power Cleaner from the auto parts store, on a rag, may be a good next step. A scouring powder, like Bar Keeper's Friend, or Ajax or Comet, may be a good step #3. If you make a paste out of that stuff & water, then let it sit, it seems to pull some grime out from under the surface sometimes. After that, I might try a touch of bleach, perhaps diluted about 3:1 or more. Normally, the longer it sits, the better it works. If that doesn't do it, then the pressure washer may be good last resort, but be careful with that thing. When I worked in a boat yard, we used to cut wooden 2 x 4s in half with the one we had. Be sure to keep the blasting tip far enough back from the surface that you are trying to clean, so that you don't damage the fiberglass. Also, be prepared to clean up the mess that it will leave behind.

One option for defeating the bilge pump may be to disconnect the hose from the thru-hull fitting & stick it into a big bucket temporarily or connect it to a longer hose that can reach a suitable drain.
 
May 24, 2004
7,178
CC 30 South Florida
Stains in the bilge should not get much attention; they do not detract from functionality and are well hidden to detract from boat esthetics. Just clean any oily residue and wait for the other spills that are bound to be forthcoming in the near future.
 
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