Just wondering what kinda ballpark I should expect when I start shopping around. I'm sure some of you have done this already. I have all the original cushions, and could probably re-use the foam, but I think it would be a lot better to just have completely new ones done. I dont expect it to be cheap, but dont wanna get totally ripped off either.
How much for all new M25 Cushions?
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I have a feeling you are going to have to throw them in the car and go get some estimates in your area.
Have you considered making them yourself? Are these the cabin cushions or the cockpit? Depending on the material you might not need as good of a sewing machine as if you were sewing sunbrella on a bigger project. We started with an older heavy duty singer...
...that would handle the job even with the sunbrella. More here...
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor-canvas/canvas-index.html
.... and sailrite has videos on covering cushions,
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Have you considered making them yourself? Are these the cabin cushions or the cockpit? Depending on the material you might not need as good of a sewing machine as if you were sewing sunbrella on a bigger project. We started with an older heavy duty singer...
...that would handle the job even with the sunbrella. More here...
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor-canvas/canvas-index.html
.... and sailrite has videos on covering cushions,
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I know the extent of my own sewing skills.....and I know this is much too big a project for me. I was actually looking at your site last night and I love all the canvas work you've done on your boat. I know it's far beyond me though. Also at the moment I have a bit more money than time in the budget, which is unusual.
If you can find a seamstress in your area they work hourly and generally have machines that can handle upholstery materials. Foam is available at Home Depot for $20/ 30"x3"X72" panels.
For material there is a woman in San Diego who sells Sunbrella remnants for $10/yd. She has some good size bolts of 20+ yds. and specializes in outdoor upholstery fabrics.
I not affiliated but a very happy customer. I will be going down there from Burbank this spring to buy canvass and upholstery material for the Luger.
Here is the contact info to her store.
3555 Rosecrans St # 107b San Diego Telephone: (619)223-2339
They may have changed ownership or she is expanding because I see links to Point Loma Fabrics with the same email address. I hope they haven't changed ownership or raised their prices.
For material there is a woman in San Diego who sells Sunbrella remnants for $10/yd. She has some good size bolts of 20+ yds. and specializes in outdoor upholstery fabrics.
I not affiliated but a very happy customer. I will be going down there from Burbank this spring to buy canvass and upholstery material for the Luger.
Here is the contact info to her store.
3555 Rosecrans St # 107b San Diego Telephone: (619)223-2339
They may have changed ownership or she is expanding because I see links to Point Loma Fabrics with the same email address. I hope they haven't changed ownership or raised their prices.
I would love to find the marine sunbrella for $10. I looked the other day and at Sailrite they are up to around $25 a yard for 60 inch wide and $22 for the 46 inch wide and other suppliers are higher than that :cry: ....
http://www.sailrite.com/Sunbrella-6079-0000-Ocean-Blue-60
... I goggled Point Loma Fabrics...
http://pointlomafabricsandupholster...n=PROD&Category_Code=Sun&Product_Code=suntnFF
.... and checked their prices. I couldn't find the marine fabrics. I notice that the other fabrics they sell are a couple dollars a yard more than Sailrite's prices, but if you can find some of the remnants that will work for $10 a yard you sure can't beat that.
I tried calling (their new number is 858-581-9391) but they weren't in. I'm going to try later on the marine sunbrella. Thanks,
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I just called and they still have remnants but the price is $11.98. Their number is 858-581-9381. They have also changed location and name:
Point Loma Fabrics and Upholstery
4060 Morena Blvd. Ste. E
San Diego, Ca 92117
T: 858-581-9381
Point Loma Fabrics and Upholstery
4060 Morena Blvd. Ste. E
San Diego, Ca 92117
T: 858-581-9381
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I just had 2 interior cushions (one piece v-berth and the port side rear berth) made for my V-25. I got the 4" firm foam with the dacron wrap, from the foam factory; the sunbrella fabric from Sailrite and had a local shop make the covers (hidden zippers and piping on all edges). It was around $900 total. I have no sewing skills and needed it done quickly, so sometimes you gotta just bite the bullet. I use those boat/seat cushions from West marine when we sit at the table, and never put it down to sleep on so I didn't see the need to have cushions made for the settee. I went with a one piece cushion in the v-berth so we wouldn't have any "cracks" to fall in when sleeping (i don't store anything under the v-berth,just fresh water tank & anchor rode).
Isn't there a link from the main page here? I know I've seen something on one of these sailing forums.
I picked up sunbrella for $13/ yard at Lens Mills in London Ont. I thought that was expensive... I'll have to go get more soon.
Here is a link; http://www.lensmill.com/index.html
Oh I just was on the sight... the pink flamingo sings!
I don't know if they ship or if the site offers web sales.
Its a store I can spend a couple hours in.
I remember the commercials always had a guy in a gorilla suit in them.... No idea why. I guess it's just one of those places.
I picked up sunbrella for $13/ yard at Lens Mills in London Ont. I thought that was expensive... I'll have to go get more soon.
Here is a link; http://www.lensmill.com/index.html
Oh I just was on the sight... the pink flamingo sings!
I don't know if they ship or if the site offers web sales.
Its a store I can spend a couple hours in.
I remember the commercials always had a guy in a gorilla suit in them.... No idea why. I guess it's just one of those places.
Hey StinkBug: There is a little town just south of you called Tia Ju ana. It is the world capital of reupholstery. Buy your fabric, thread and foam cut to size in SD and head south. Take the old cushion covers with you for sizing. By the way the material isn't cheap either. Good Luck and Via con Dios.
I realize that you don't need to get under the v-berth, but if someone needs to like we do then put....
....the cuts from side to side and don't place them where your shoulders, hips or knees are and you will never know they are there. When we bought the boat the mattress was split lengthwise and you did fall into the crack. With the mattress in 3 sections it is also easier to get in and out of the boat.
We made the mattress in ....
...the Endeavour the same way. We also square off the tops of the mattresses and that gives us room there to build in shelves....
...for clothing. We made the covers out of sheets so that we could remove them and wash them as needed and also cut...
... the sheets and blankets down so that they fit the v-berth better and aren't all bunched up on the sides. About any sewing machine can do these mods,
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Do they have pricing on the site? I couldn't find it.
One thing that also might help is that when we mention how much we paid for Sunbrella we mention which product and the width. Sunbrella makes a number of fabrics, interior fabric, marine interior, marine exterior and probably more. On Sailrite's site the prices for the above can range from under $15 to over $30. The sunbrella...
http://www.sailrite.com/Sunbrella-60...-Ocean-Blue-60
....that we have used for our exterior projects, like the sail pack, dodger, etc.. has gone up from about $18 to $25 a yard. If anyone can find that for less I sure would like to know as we need to order some and I can't find anyone for less.
Thanks,
Sum
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Another idea I got on this forum a few years back.. use plywood for a backing plate and just staple the cloth. I did the bottom cushions this way - no sewing at all. This works for the bottom cushions but probably not for the backrest cushions so I just replaced these with throw pillows (which I need to be comfortable regardless). I think this mod is about four years old now and had been completely reiliable.
Sum, I don't think they have pricing on line...? I can't find it either. I just go there when I need to. Isn't the flamingo something else.
I recall getting what they called "marine Sunbrella". I don't think they distinguished between interior or exterior... Its nice and thick.
I got it the same time as I got the vinyl for my cockpit cushions. I had a conversation with the lady with the scissors about it being water proof and UV safe and anti fungal additives in the marine products. So I hope its for the outside. I have enough to build my hatch cover vent/shade and tiller handle.
So I'm hoping it doesn't melt in the sun or rain. I was thinking of getting more for a roller furler cover/ sail edge.
I recall getting what they called "marine Sunbrella". I don't think they distinguished between interior or exterior... Its nice and thick.
I got it the same time as I got the vinyl for my cockpit cushions. I had a conversation with the lady with the scissors about it being water proof and UV safe and anti fungal additives in the marine products. So I hope its for the outside. I have enough to build my hatch cover vent/shade and tiller handle.
So I'm hoping it doesn't melt in the sun or rain. I was thinking of getting more for a roller furler cover/ sail edge.
I agree with Sumner in that the prices have really gone up!! I was just researching the places where I bought material to make the cockpit cushions for my Mac26S and was amazed at how much they are asking now! I paid $14.41 yd. last year for Captain Navy Solid Sunbrella material for the sail covers, tiller cover, etc. It is now $21.95. The cockpit cushion cover material was $16.34, now $18.85. I used outsidefabric.com.
I went to the store in Point Loma last year when it was called "Mariana Lifestyles". Since then they have moved and changed their name as mentioned above. They did have a lot of Sunbrella fabrics on bolts for $10 yd. but depending on how much you need, they may not have enough. You will be fine with their materials since you are not making canvas sail covers, etc. which are subject to the weather 24/7. Then you would need the heavier canvas materials which they didn't stock.
Home Depot foam would be fine for the interior, but don't use it in the cockpit where you need outside foam that dries fast. I used Dryfast, like Sumner.
Since you are not doing the work yourself you may be better off letting the professional buy the material. Often times the best prices are only available wholesale. Wish I could recommend a good seamstress in the area, but I made mine myself, so didn't research it. I think you may get a better deal the farther south you go, closer to the border if you don't want to cross it. Perhaps Chula Vista or National City?
If you are looking for an estimate on how much it would cost, I can't help you there, but I can tell you that it cost me almost $500 last year just to make the cockpit cushions, including foam, fabric, cording, and notions, and no labor. So if you are considering redoing all your cushions, expect to shell out some $$$.
Good Luck!
I went to the store in Point Loma last year when it was called "Mariana Lifestyles". Since then they have moved and changed their name as mentioned above. They did have a lot of Sunbrella fabrics on bolts for $10 yd. but depending on how much you need, they may not have enough. You will be fine with their materials since you are not making canvas sail covers, etc. which are subject to the weather 24/7. Then you would need the heavier canvas materials which they didn't stock.
Home Depot foam would be fine for the interior, but don't use it in the cockpit where you need outside foam that dries fast. I used Dryfast, like Sumner.
Since you are not doing the work yourself you may be better off letting the professional buy the material. Often times the best prices are only available wholesale. Wish I could recommend a good seamstress in the area, but I made mine myself, so didn't research it. I think you may get a better deal the farther south you go, closer to the border if you don't want to cross it. Perhaps Chula Vista or National City?
If you are looking for an estimate on how much it would cost, I can't help you there, but I can tell you that it cost me almost $500 last year just to make the cockpit cushions, including foam, fabric, cording, and notions, and no labor. So if you are considering redoing all your cushions, expect to shell out some $$$.
Good Luck!
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Wow....
...those are the nicest cockpit cushions I've seen regardless of the boat. Ruth told me to tell you the same
. Which material is that? We hope to re-do the Endeavour cushions before going back (brought the old ones home). We are going to use the dry-fast foam again since we like it so much and was going to use the phifertex ...
http://www.sailrite.com/Phifertex-Plus-Mesh-Dupioni-Poolside-L37-54
... material again, but after seeing those we are going to have to reconsider. Have you gotten those wet with rain or dew yet? I'm wonder how fast they dry out. The dry-fast and phifertex dry very fast but those sure are prettier.
You did good and the piping looks great (we were to lazy to do that
). I don't think you could of had those made for anywhere close to $500.Anyone that is considering cockpit cushions consider the dry-fast. It does dry fast and even if wet if you turn the cushion over and put a folded towel on it doesn't seem as wet. We have been places with a lot of morning dew and it is great for that situation. Way better than the old cushions were. It is firm and we have been happy with that, but everyone is different when it comes to preferences on firmness,
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I'm pretty sure I have a place that can do all the stitching for me, as well as provide material. I've been looking at foam and am trying to decide on thickness for the cockpit cushions. The current ones are 2" and seem fine, but I'm wondering if it's worth the extra money to do 3" dryfast. I'm also looking at doing backrests like the ones shown above since I'll have some extra foam, but the sheet winches are mounted right in the middle of the cockpit so I'm thinking the cushions could get in the way. I notice both of your boats are 26's and seem to have the jib sheets run differently, anyone done a 25 or have suggestions?
If you use the boat where you have dew or it rains a fair amount I think one would really appreciate the dry-fast. Sunny California might not make it as high a priority. We hated our original cushions as if they got wet it took them forever to dry and they were a heavy soggy mess until they did.
One other thing we have been happy with ....
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor2/outside-31-a.html
...is also having the cushions split into two cushions (bottoms and backs) on both sides. It makes it a lot more flexible on how many cushions are in the cockpit and how they are use. Ruth is at the tiller usually and doesn't like the back cushion, so we leave it below out of the way in the v-berth along with the bottom and back port side one usually. I like the back cushion and move side to side so we leave the two forward bottom cushions and one or two of the forward back cushions.
With the winches I'd make a 'drop' in the cushions where the winch is. If it is about mid-cockpit you could split the back cushions and drop them where the winch is or just drop the middle of a long one if you wanted,
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The dry fast is pretty firm...
http://www.foamdistributing.com/D/dryfast-foam.html
...but I think my butt would go through on the 2 inch. It is kind of a funny foam to describe and maybe someone else who has used it will chime in. To me you sit on top of it at first and then kind of sink it some until you stop sinking. Not quite the same feeling as say the lux high quality that we used for the interior which is also very firm and we used 3 inches.
The 3 inches on the lux works well for Ruth, but I wouldn't mind having 3 inches of the lux with 1 inch of dry fast underneath for the interior and we might try that for the Endeavour.
Where are you going to buy it from? On Foam Factorie's wholesale site ...
http://www.foamdistributing.com/D/dryfast-foam.html
...it is $126 (fee delivery) for a piece 3 X 50 X 90 and on their other site...
http://www.thefoamfactory.com/outdoorfoam/outdoorfoam.html
....$214 for 3 X 50 X 90. I wish we would of know about the cheaper site when we ordered. We now order all the foam on that site.
Here are the specs on it....
http://www.thefoamfactory.com/tech/DryfastTech.html
... vs. the lux high quaility which is their firmest other foam...
http://www.thefoamfactory.com/tech/Lux-HQTech.html
So the dryfast is a little firmer at 60 vs. 50,
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