Hello All, A bottom job is in the future for my Catalina 30. It has been regularly cleaned in the water but my diver says it is getting time to pull and redo. The old paint is Trinidad. I'll be using the same again. My question is...how long can I typically expect this work to take?? There will be two of us working. I will need to pressure wash the bottom, sand with 80 grit and then roll on the new paint. I have been told I have the catalina smile and will take a look to see the status. I have previously done the bottom of my C22. That was a major job as I took all old paint off and preped the bottom for a smooth racing bottom. I do not plan on the same treatment on my C30. Just resand the surface and repaint...hopefully that easy. So, does anyone have an idea of how long this would take for two people??? It is a lot more surface area than my C22. I am speculating 1 day to pull, pressure wash and put up in the yard. Possibly start sanding. Day 2 finish sanding. Day 3 paint. Day 4 recover from all the sore muscles...and of course relaunch. Thanks for your input. Paul C30 #1828
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We never sand.
Paul: Our boat is in fresh water. We also use the Trinidad paint. Our yard NEVER EVER sands the bottom. They only power wash, tape and paint. We have never had any problems with the paint sticking to the old surface. There are reviews of the newer paints on the market. If you are going to stick iwth Trinidad, you should look into the SR version of this paint. It is suppose to be highly rated.
Paul: Our boat is in fresh water. We also use the Trinidad paint. Our yard NEVER EVER sands the bottom. They only power wash, tape and paint. We have never had any problems with the paint sticking to the old surface. There are reviews of the newer paints on the market. If you are going to stick iwth Trinidad, you should look into the SR version of this paint. It is suppose to be highly rated.
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Sean
I Don't Sand Either
I just pressure wash, tape the water line and paint. I usually have a few small blisters on my 30 that have to be taken care of. I redo the bottom every other year and use West Marine ablative paint. I'm in salt water, but have never had any problems with growth. Sean #360
I just pressure wash, tape the water line and paint. I usually have a few small blisters on my 30 that have to be taken care of. I redo the bottom every other year and use West Marine ablative paint. I'm in salt water, but have never had any problems with growth. Sean #360
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Allen Schweitzer
2 Days
Paul, I'd give it 10 man-hours, or 2 people working for 5 hours each. I did my bottom & it took a lot longer because I stripped about 8 years worth of paint & brought it back down to the gelcoat. THAT was a chore that took me about 5 weekends to do. It only took 1 day, though, to tape on a new boot stripe, mask & paint 3 coats. I was working alone. 2 Should easily be able to do it in a day, with an extra day to wash the hull & let the surface dry before painting. --Allen
Paul, I'd give it 10 man-hours, or 2 people working for 5 hours each. I did my bottom & it took a lot longer because I stripped about 8 years worth of paint & brought it back down to the gelcoat. THAT was a chore that took me about 5 weekends to do. It only took 1 day, though, to tape on a new boot stripe, mask & paint 3 coats. I was working alone. 2 Should easily be able to do it in a day, with an extra day to wash the hull & let the surface dry before painting. --Allen
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Scott Blahnik
Re: sanding
I just had my 2001 270 hauled out yesterday. My boatyard fellow pressure washed it, but says the primer "is not acting right" that there are osmotic blisters, and the whole thing will have to be sanded. Quoted me 1200-something dollars (total: per foot haul out fee, labor, paint) I'm going to go take a look at it, but I have the feeling I'm not going to feel like doing the job myself! Does the fee sound reasonable?
I just had my 2001 270 hauled out yesterday. My boatyard fellow pressure washed it, but says the primer "is not acting right" that there are osmotic blisters, and the whole thing will have to be sanded. Quoted me 1200-something dollars (total: per foot haul out fee, labor, paint) I'm going to go take a look at it, but I have the feeling I'm not going to feel like doing the job myself! Does the fee sound reasonable?
Does not sound out of line.
Scott: This does not sound out of line. They usually charge a fixed fee for the pull, powerwash and splash (fixed cost). On our H'31 we are now paying $600 for a single coat of Petite paint with the haul, wash, prep, paint, zincs and environmental fees. If they are going to fix your few blisters, sanding and repreping the bottom and paint this sounds in line. Just ask him if that is going to be the actual price or not.
Scott: This does not sound out of line. They usually charge a fixed fee for the pull, powerwash and splash (fixed cost). On our H'31 we are now paying $600 for a single coat of Petite paint with the haul, wash, prep, paint, zincs and environmental fees. If they are going to fix your few blisters, sanding and repreping the bottom and paint this sounds in line. Just ask him if that is going to be the actual price or not.
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Jim Logan
Scott, what boatyard are you using?
Scott, who are you getting the quote from? 2 years ago I had my h33 done at Seabrook marine in N.O. and was quoted a painting price of $10ft, plus cost of 2+ gallons of Trinidad SR. If I remember correctly, the entire painting project, which included hot water pressure wash, light sanding, and paint was around $650. You might want to shop around - of course, I didnt' repair any blisters or anything - didnt' say I didnt' have them, just didn't repair them! Paint has held up fine - just light scrubbing twice a year is all I do with the boat in the water - I'llprobably repaint this spring, but will use the same place unless they have gone up a lot. Of course, you realize all boatyard owners in N.O. area are decendants of Jean Lafitte.
Scott, who are you getting the quote from? 2 years ago I had my h33 done at Seabrook marine in N.O. and was quoted a painting price of $10ft, plus cost of 2+ gallons of Trinidad SR. If I remember correctly, the entire painting project, which included hot water pressure wash, light sanding, and paint was around $650. You might want to shop around - of course, I didnt' repair any blisters or anything - didnt' say I didnt' have them, just didn't repair them! Paint has held up fine - just light scrubbing twice a year is all I do with the boat in the water - I'llprobably repaint this spring, but will use the same place unless they have gone up a lot. Of course, you realize all boatyard owners in N.O. area are decendants of Jean Lafitte.
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LaDonna Bubak - CatalinaOwners.com
2-3 days minimum
Let's say all the planets are aligned and you don't have to work on blisters or your "smile". Haulout first thing in the morning, pressure wash & get the stands placed. Go have lunch & make a run to West Marine for all the last minute supplies you forgot to buy earlier. Two people sanding (again if the all goes right, you just need to rough it up lightly) should get at least one side done by that evening (depends on how late you can stay). Next morning, finish sanding & start taping. Wipe the hull with acetone & go have lunch. Come back & roll on two coats of paint. Depending on your yard, you *could* get splashed right away (bottom paint cures underwater just fine) or wait till the next morning. There! A full itenerary for you. Have fun! ;-) LaDonna
Let's say all the planets are aligned and you don't have to work on blisters or your "smile". Haulout first thing in the morning, pressure wash & get the stands placed. Go have lunch & make a run to West Marine for all the last minute supplies you forgot to buy earlier. Two people sanding (again if the all goes right, you just need to rough it up lightly) should get at least one side done by that evening (depends on how late you can stay). Next morning, finish sanding & start taping. Wipe the hull with acetone & go have lunch. Come back & roll on two coats of paint. Depending on your yard, you *could* get splashed right away (bottom paint cures underwater just fine) or wait till the next morning. There! A full itenerary for you. Have fun! ;-) LaDonna
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Scott Blahnik
Walking the plank
Ever hear the one that says a boat is a big hole in the water you throw your money into? Or the other that says the happiest day in a man’s ( or woman’s, LaDonna) life is the day he buys his boat-the second happiest is the day he sells it. We on this site hear this a lot, I’m afraid. Anybody who is unfamiliar with Jean Lafitte: he’s a notorious pirate who helped a fledging USA defeat the British Navy in the battle of New Orleans… My pirate is Bert, at Bert’s Boat Works in Madisonville, Jim, and I trust him. There goes that autopilot I’ve had my eyes on.
Ever hear the one that says a boat is a big hole in the water you throw your money into? Or the other that says the happiest day in a man’s ( or woman’s, LaDonna) life is the day he buys his boat-the second happiest is the day he sells it. We on this site hear this a lot, I’m afraid. Anybody who is unfamiliar with Jean Lafitte: he’s a notorious pirate who helped a fledging USA defeat the British Navy in the battle of New Orleans… My pirate is Bert, at Bert’s Boat Works in Madisonville, Jim, and I trust him. There goes that autopilot I’ve had my eyes on.
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Stan Rogacevicz
Sanding Dust ?
Paul, Last year my previous marina started Requiring a vacuum attachment (I allways used one any way) to the sander and my new marina requires it also. I can do my c320 in 2-3hrs with a 5" random orbital sander. It just depends on your tolerance for pain - literally. You could roll on the paint the same day, but of course the roller would seem to weigh 50lbs by then. It just depends how hard you want to push yourself. I allways keep in mind that by doing it myself I'm working for $60+ an hour and it eases the pain somewhat. Stan "Christy Leigh" c320 #656
Paul, Last year my previous marina started Requiring a vacuum attachment (I allways used one any way) to the sander and my new marina requires it also. I can do my c320 in 2-3hrs with a 5" random orbital sander. It just depends on your tolerance for pain - literally. You could roll on the paint the same day, but of course the roller would seem to weigh 50lbs by then. It just depends how hard you want to push yourself. I allways keep in mind that by doing it myself I'm working for $60+ an hour and it eases the pain somewhat. Stan "Christy Leigh" c320 #656
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Bob Cardoza
Drywall sander and pole
I quickly wet sand it only lightly with a drywall sander and pole (use the screen sander.. it never fouls and you can wash it with the hose). Takes less than an hour on a 27 ft boat. The water keeps dust to 0 and your neighbor at the yard your friend. The next day I tape and paint with a multi season ablative Micron CSC with Biolux. 1 light coat per year. No buildup, no blistering and no barnicles. A gallon lasts me two years. I started doing it a couple of years ago... seems half the boatyard is doing it now.
I quickly wet sand it only lightly with a drywall sander and pole (use the screen sander.. it never fouls and you can wash it with the hose). Takes less than an hour on a 27 ft boat. The water keeps dust to 0 and your neighbor at the yard your friend. The next day I tape and paint with a multi season ablative Micron CSC with Biolux. 1 light coat per year. No buildup, no blistering and no barnicles. A gallon lasts me two years. I started doing it a couple of years ago... seems half the boatyard is doing it now.
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