how do you store your sails

Sep 29, 2013
75
catalina 22 houston
I just wondered how those of you with experience handle and store your sails when you drop them.

I intend to take them off completely, as I'm trailering the boat, not leaving it moored.

When I dropped them after my recent first sail, I just stuffed then in the bow v birth area temporarily.

I intend to try to fold and roll them neatly so they fit in the bags that the came stored in.

Do ya'll even bother trying keep them neat, flat, rolled etc or do you just stuff them in a bag.

I thought they'd look better stored but there's no way to do that unless I take them home and roll them out on the front lawn. Certainly can't see doing it while on the boat.

Any experience/tips?

thanks

anthony
 
Sep 23, 2012
25
Catalina 22 Folsom Lake
Sails are very expensive, so I gently drop the sails into the cabin when derigging and then take them into the living room at home and flake them before putting them into their bags.
 

Cope

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Jun 19, 2011
78
Catalina 22 South Lake Tahoe
When not in use but during sailing season I lightly stuff my jib in its bag with the lines nicely coiled and the top of the sail at the top of the bag. This way it can be raised right out of the bag with nothing flying around on deck. its no fun trying to unroll a "nicely" rolled sail on the deck of a pitching boat...
My main gets flaked over the boom and tied off when not sailing. When the boats not being used in the summer I leave the boom in the cabin with the main flaked onto it. (I also store my rudder in the cabin) The sail cover only goes on in the winter when I store the boom in the garrage. Likewise in the winter I fold and roll my jib into a neat little roll and store in its bag in a closet in the house. I just pulled the jib out and unrolled it stuffing it back in its bag. The jib bag is much larger than it needs to be for a rolled sail so I assume its made for this?.....
 
Nov 19, 2008
2,129
Catalina C-22 MK-II Parrish, FL
We normally keep the boat in a slip, so with a full batten main, I will roll it and secure it to the boom under the sail cover. With the bimini up, I can stand on the cabin top and easily roll the main up. The jib is hanked on and normally flacked and folded a bit and put in the sail cover bag on the bow.

When we trailer, I simply un-snap the hanks on the jib and disconnect the downhaul and the sheets,(which are left on the deck), and the main is removed attached to the boom and stowed in the cabin for traveling.

I have snap-shackles on the bow fitting for the jib, jib sheets, vang, and main sheet to make removal and installation easier and quicker.

Don
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
i store mine the same way as most small ocean cruisers... i stuff them away until i need them again. they stuff away and deploy in the same manner as a rope. as long as I know how its layed and it doesnt get rolled over and mixed up, it will be easy to deploy next time.
if i have one that is never being used and not even on the boat, its folded and stored like it was a new sail.
the sails are expensive, but there is no way to fold them neatly when dousing on the boat, unless its a small sail, and when I get back to the dock, its not a priority to pull the sail out and take to the parking lot where there is room to fold it the way some think it should be folded... there are many, much more important considerations to taking care of a sail than whether its stowed stuffed of folded.

and... and its a pain to when trying to hoist a sail that is all neatly folded....
 
Sep 30, 2013
3,585
1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
Glad to hear that, Centerline. I've been "trying" to keep mine folded, and every time I do, I wonder why am I doing this. Brand new ones, sure. But folding well-worn sails seems like such a waste of perfectly good OCD.
 
Mar 26, 2011
3,681
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
OMG. Terrible advice, the worst I have ever read in sequencial posts. Criminal.

Sail cloth is resinated for stretch control. Stuffing breaks down the resin and adds wrinkles which disturb airflow.

Search and you will find useful advice. Fold or flake them on the boat.
 
Aug 11, 2011
759
catalina 22 Islamorada
number one thing is in a dry location.
Had sails from previous owner they were brand new like one year old he took them in the house thought he was protecting them stored them in the basement and the humidity got to them and stained them. Stain was impossible to get out to me ruined the sails. Store them in a dry spot in the boat or in a spare bedroom closet or something just don't let them get wet or to humid
 
Sep 23, 2012
25
Catalina 22 Folsom Lake
I am the king of OCD!

I have found that by leaving the genoa hanked-on during flaking on the foredeck, I can easily (and quickly) get the sail packed away without risking life and limb.

When I am ready to stop sailing, I head into the wind, dowse the genoa, release both sheets and stand in the cabin entryway. I grab both sheets in front of the mast and pull them (and the clew) straight back on the port side of the mast inside the stays. I drop the sheets into the cabin and then pull on the leach of the sail from the foot to the head. It naturally flakes because the luff is still attached to the forestay.

The tricky part is then going out on the foredeck to remove the hanks and fold the sail back on itself to be dropped in the cabin. I often wait until I get back to calm water to do this step.

It is easy to refurl the sail then next time by laying it out on the cabintop and unfolding it toward the forestay with the hanks coming out right on the bow.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,003
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Good point. Even easier if you have a jib downhaul, then sail on port tack then heave to. Use the downhaul to pull the sail down with the jib sheets tight, and the sail will flake itself on deck.
 
Mar 26, 2011
3,681
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
Stretched or torn sails are ruined. Stained sails are just a little ugly. Huge difference. Sailors cringe more at vertical creases than minor stains.

The corollary; sails have been ruined by trying too hard to remove a sail.
 

kito

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
The sails on my C22 are old and need replaced anyway so I just stuff the headsail in it's bag with the jib sheets still attached. The mainsail is flaked onto the boom and wrapped in it's sail cover and placed in the cabin when trailering. Saves a little time anyway.
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
Glad to hear that, Centerline. I've been "trying" to keep mine folded, and every time I do, I wonder why am I doing this. Brand new ones, sure. But folding well-worn sails seems like such a waste of perfectly good OCD.
everyone has their own type and degree of OCD:D....

folding a sail does have its benefits, but its not the determining factor in longevity.

I have met friends and neighbors at the marinas that I have been at in the last couple of years who think we are hardcore boaters/sailors, because we are always on the water and doing our thing, while they find its too much trouble to get out there like we do...
they complain about the time it takes to put the boat away and folding the sails all nice and neat, and how much work for so little time spent relaxing...
i have met people who have a tough time getting the jib down and stowed because they dont want to wrinkle it.... it has to be stored rolled up rather than folded. a PITA!!

I dont have problems like that.
both of our boats are good looking and well tended to and cared for, and as we dont race, I see no need for trying to preserve a sail in pristine condition without any wrinkles.
as as much as it gets used, its not going to make it last that much longer anyway, for the type of sailing we do..

my OCD time is spent in other areas of boat care and maintenance.

In the same way some people may be a proponent of saying a sail is being damaged as it sets wadded in its bag, it can equally be said that the sail is safer and is being damaged less wadded up in the bag than it is flying on the boat, because of the wear factor and the sunlight, which is more damaging than a wrinkle or even a few wrinkles. although if it sets flaked and folded in a bag and never sees the sun or any chafe, it WILL undoubtedly remain wrinkle free and last a long long time.
so if I use my wadded up and wrinkled old sail 70% more than a boat owner who folds and flakes theirs, who is to say which sail is giving its owner the best service and how do you judge the active enjoyed lifespan of each?

BUT, i will agree if the sail is wadded in the bag, and then is allowed to flop around in the boat and have people laying on it, then "refluffed" so it makes a better cushion or mattress, that is BAD and is damaging to it..

the way a sail is allowed to flog when headed into the wind, or how its allowed to fly against the shrouds/spreaders when running broad, or how it gets inspected and repaired timely, or where and when its used and the amount of direct sun, and the general handling of the sails is much more important in sail longevity than how a general purpose sail sets in its bag.

in my opinion...
its really more a matter of how often you use the sail that determines the way it can be stored.
a wet sail overnight or for a couple of days is no issue at all, but if it is going to be stored away for quite awhile, then it should be dried out...
and even this can vary. in the moderate climate i live in, a wet sail could be stored a couple weeks without worry of mildew, but some areas it may mildew within a a day or two...
light mildew doesnt hurt the sail, other than makes it ugly and its usually permanent.

if wadding the sail in a bag vs flaking and folding is the difference in the amount of enjoyment and usage you get from the boat, I say go with a bit less worry about the sails and maximize your enjoyment and relaxation... because thats what your pleasure boat is really supposed to be about:D.