I guess I'll ride my Harley
But I don't like leaving it at the harbor when I take the boat out. Tom s/v GAIA
But I don't like leaving it at the harbor when I take the boat out. Tom s/v GAIA
How do you plan to get to your boat?
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I did that last year
Because of rising gas prices I stayed away from the boat. Wish I hadn't done that because when I finally visited, the boat was filthy and full of bird crap. I spent an entire weekend cleaning the boat. Never again. Damn the gas prices, full throttled ahead.
Because of rising gas prices I stayed away from the boat. Wish I hadn't done that because when I finally visited, the boat was filthy and full of bird crap. I spent an entire weekend cleaning the boat. Never again. Damn the gas prices, full throttled ahead.
....and the price of fuel is ridiculous in the west
While Rick has a lot more money than me, we are all paying too much money for fuel. I just filled up my tank tonight at the price of $2.43/ gal for premium. This was for a fill up of about 18+ gal. at Costco. How much did they get out of your wallet?
While Rick has a lot more money than me, we are all paying too much money for fuel. I just filled up my tank tonight at the price of $2.43/ gal for premium. This was for a fill up of about 18+ gal. at Costco. How much did they get out of your wallet?
*cry $2.43???!!! Costco got me for $3.51 tonight.
It cost me $77 bucks to fill up. Drove to Tehachapi and back and I'm down to a 1/4 tank. At $4/gal It will be cost effective to move to the Marina. A friend of mine has a Mercedes deisel that he converted to vegetabel oil. He gets it for free from the local fried chicken restaurant. He has so much oil that he drives periodically to San Francisco just to use the fuel up. The upside Rick is that we'll be able to get a mooring at Catalina. Thank god for wind. Frank
It cost me $77 bucks to fill up. Drove to Tehachapi and back and I'm down to a 1/4 tank. At $4/gal It will be cost effective to move to the Marina. A friend of mine has a Mercedes deisel that he converted to vegetabel oil. He gets it for free from the local fried chicken restaurant. He has so much oil that he drives periodically to San Francisco just to use the fuel up. The upside Rick is that we'll be able to get a mooring at Catalina. Thank god for wind. Frank
If..
If I ever have to worry about the price of fuel to go 1.3 miles I've got some real problems financially..!!
My wife and I set our selves up for "boat success" years ago and bought into a neighborhood with deeded mooring rights, a mooring and dinghy storage. That mooring requires no gas to get to, if I row, but the mooring down at the boat yard that we use most of the time for convenience, with launch, dock, fuel, Ice etc. is 1.3 miles down the street.. I suppose if fuel hit $50.00 per gallon I could row from my house to my boat or walk, or ride my bike... The real question is what fuel will I continue to heat my house with? Eight years ago I was paying .69 gal my last oil tank fill up was 3.69 gal for 144.8 gallons total fill cost for less than half a tank of oil was 534.31.... That's a lot of boat upgrades..;D
If I ever have to worry about the price of fuel to go 1.3 miles I've got some real problems financially..!!
My wife and I set our selves up for "boat success" years ago and bought into a neighborhood with deeded mooring rights, a mooring and dinghy storage. That mooring requires no gas to get to, if I row, but the mooring down at the boat yard that we use most of the time for convenience, with launch, dock, fuel, Ice etc. is 1.3 miles down the street.. I suppose if fuel hit $50.00 per gallon I could row from my house to my boat or walk, or ride my bike... The real question is what fuel will I continue to heat my house with? Eight years ago I was paying .69 gal my last oil tank fill up was 3.69 gal for 144.8 gallons total fill cost for less than half a tank of oil was 534.31.... That's a lot of boat upgrades..;D
The price of gas is cheap in NJ
It is still under $3 per gallon. The problem is my wife and I have diesel cars and diesel is $4 per gallon. The good thing is our VW TDI cars get 45 MPG. It is all a trade off. The good news is we where smart enough to buy sailboats and therefore can afford to use them. Even better news is most powerboaters can't afford to go out. It is all trade offs. We take the good with the bad.
It is still under $3 per gallon. The problem is my wife and I have diesel cars and diesel is $4 per gallon. The good thing is our VW TDI cars get 45 MPG. It is all a trade off. The good news is we where smart enough to buy sailboats and therefore can afford to use them. Even better news is most powerboaters can't afford to go out. It is all trade offs. We take the good with the bad.
No worries
In my area gas is about $3.10 right now. I drive to work and back about once per week. The boat is about 2 miles away. Add going to the store or trips to the gym and collectively my wife and I put about 5-6k miles per year on each of our cars. My little kicker outboard motor on the boat does not burn much fuel. The cost to heat a home in Texas is pretty cheap. My not-so-stock motorcycle gets only slightly better fuel mileage than my wifes little car but that is only a toy I occasionally use. Basically fuel costs are not much of a concern for me on a daily basis. Do I hate how expensive it is getting? You damn well better believe it. Gas shouldn't cost this much, especially in a state that has its own oil and refines its own gasoline. Prices are on the rise globally due to global demand (Thank you China and India). Oil is traded using USD but with the USD being weak other countries have more buying power, making it again more expensive for us. I think gas prices are only going to get higher. My prediction is this thread will be moved to the sails call lounge by the end of today.
In my area gas is about $3.10 right now. I drive to work and back about once per week. The boat is about 2 miles away. Add going to the store or trips to the gym and collectively my wife and I put about 5-6k miles per year on each of our cars. My little kicker outboard motor on the boat does not burn much fuel. The cost to heat a home in Texas is pretty cheap. My not-so-stock motorcycle gets only slightly better fuel mileage than my wifes little car but that is only a toy I occasionally use. Basically fuel costs are not much of a concern for me on a daily basis. Do I hate how expensive it is getting? You damn well better believe it. Gas shouldn't cost this much, especially in a state that has its own oil and refines its own gasoline. Prices are on the rise globally due to global demand (Thank you China and India). Oil is traded using USD but with the USD being weak other countries have more buying power, making it again more expensive for us. I think gas prices are only going to get higher. My prediction is this thread will be moved to the sails call lounge by the end of today.
Open waters
This summer gas & diesel at the fuel docks will probably be over $5 a gal. I'm lucky that I only have to travel 1.5 miles to my boat and with the Universal 2cylinder, sailing everyday I only use about 10 gals during the summer. The people with money won't care and still go out on their gas eaters. But the average person will be cutting back on their water activites some what. This should open up the water ways alot for sailboats with less power boaters, lets just hope they don't all buy jet ski's. Six years ago when I was looking at 36' Trawlers my wife who was all knowing and a great visionary said buy a sailboat, you always wanted another sailboat. Thanks Dear !!!!!!
This summer gas & diesel at the fuel docks will probably be over $5 a gal. I'm lucky that I only have to travel 1.5 miles to my boat and with the Universal 2cylinder, sailing everyday I only use about 10 gals during the summer. The people with money won't care and still go out on their gas eaters. But the average person will be cutting back on their water activites some what. This should open up the water ways alot for sailboats with less power boaters, lets just hope they don't all buy jet ski's. Six years ago when I was looking at 36' Trawlers my wife who was all knowing and a great visionary said buy a sailboat, you always wanted another sailboat. Thanks Dear !!!!!!
I'm Impressed
So far there are 27 replies and this has not yet turned into a political rant. It remains on this site where it belongs. Great going guys. Tony B
So far there are 27 replies and this has not yet turned into a political rant. It remains on this site where it belongs. Great going guys. Tony B
Less trips to the boat but longer stays
I live 4 hours from my boat (230 miles one way). We will probably make fewer trips but stay longer (like stay for the week instead of the weekend). August is hot as Hell on the Chesapeake so we will probably skip that month. Next year I retire so that opens up other possibilities.
I live 4 hours from my boat (230 miles one way). We will probably make fewer trips but stay longer (like stay for the week instead of the weekend). August is hot as Hell on the Chesapeake so we will probably skip that month. Next year I retire so that opens up other possibilities.
Was in Maui last week gas was $4
We spent $165 on gas in 12 days. Was it worth it - damn right. Will pay what ever it takes to get to the boat.....
We spent $165 on gas in 12 days. Was it worth it - damn right. Will pay what ever it takes to get to the boat.....
We have taken some steps already....
The year before last, my wife said we should move closer to the lake where we sail. Since our son graduated from college 3 years ago, and we couldn't justify 3200 square feet for us two and the dog, we moved. We sold our bigger home, built a smaller, single story, 1800 sq. ft home with all the amenities and none of the unused space. We were 75 miles from the lake before, and are now 30.. so the money we are saving in utilities on the smaller home help to defray the additional costs of getting to the lake. And as it has been said... I can't wait to get to the lake and see fewer stinkpots out and about. More room, some additional expense, but still the best recreation I can think of ....well other than skiing.
The year before last, my wife said we should move closer to the lake where we sail. Since our son graduated from college 3 years ago, and we couldn't justify 3200 square feet for us two and the dog, we moved. We sold our bigger home, built a smaller, single story, 1800 sq. ft home with all the amenities and none of the unused space. We were 75 miles from the lake before, and are now 30.. so the money we are saving in utilities on the smaller home help to defray the additional costs of getting to the lake. And as it has been said... I can't wait to get to the lake and see fewer stinkpots out and about. More room, some additional expense, but still the best recreation I can think of ....well other than skiing.
in a tiny car
Once I bring the cushions back onboard, I'll be driving my fuel-stingy Miata as often as possible, and probably spending more nights aboard. I'm not quite ready to commit to fewer weekends... it still feels like sacrilege to consider that. On a related topic - will sailboat owners change their motoring habits? The manager at my boatyard recommended lots of motoring to help get the diesel engine to optimum operating temperature to clear out the carbon and keep the engine happy. Is that just hype?
Once I bring the cushions back onboard, I'll be driving my fuel-stingy Miata as often as possible, and probably spending more nights aboard. I'm not quite ready to commit to fewer weekends... it still feels like sacrilege to consider that. On a related topic - will sailboat owners change their motoring habits? The manager at my boatyard recommended lots of motoring to help get the diesel engine to optimum operating temperature to clear out the carbon and keep the engine happy. Is that just hype?
More Sailing
Well it's a whole new ball game for me now that we sold the house in NY and moved to Florida. I'll be living on our Hunter 36 next year in Greenport,NY until we sail her down to Florida,we are both retired and will spend a lot less gas on our car living on the boat and will be doing more sailing for sure. When we move the boat to florida we will be about 20 miles from the marina so that's not bad at all,a lot of power boaters are selling their boats or using them less so more room for us. We are thinking of buying a hybrid with the price of gas $3.29 and maybe going higher. Nick
Well it's a whole new ball game for me now that we sold the house in NY and moved to Florida. I'll be living on our Hunter 36 next year in Greenport,NY until we sail her down to Florida,we are both retired and will spend a lot less gas on our car living on the boat and will be doing more sailing for sure. When we move the boat to florida we will be about 20 miles from the marina so that's not bad at all,a lot of power boaters are selling their boats or using them less so more room for us. We are thinking of buying a hybrid with the price of gas $3.29 and maybe going higher. Nick
I live about 14 miles from my boat
and usually ride my Harley. I don't mind leaving it for a daysail, but for overnights, I'll take the car. I only take on boat fuel once or twice a year, so the cost of 40 gals doesn't really effect me that much. When I take the boat out, I make sure I motor for at least 15 minutes at cruising RPM, to get the engine up to temp to avoid carbon build-up. That's all it takes.
and usually ride my Harley. I don't mind leaving it for a daysail, but for overnights, I'll take the car. I only take on boat fuel once or twice a year, so the cost of 40 gals doesn't really effect me that much. When I take the boat out, I make sure I motor for at least 15 minutes at cruising RPM, to get the engine up to temp to avoid carbon build-up. That's all it takes.
Fuel Prices
Im not worried about gasoline. I live less than a mile from where my boat is moored. I can always walk or ride my bicycle to my boat club. Last season I used under 9 gallons of gas for myt outboard. I usually sail on and off my mooring. I dont do much motoring or car driving. Heres what I am worried about, buying heating oil. I cant get along without that. Last fillup at near $3.50 per Gal was close $700 just to keep warm
Im not worried about gasoline. I live less than a mile from where my boat is moored. I can always walk or ride my bicycle to my boat club. Last season I used under 9 gallons of gas for myt outboard. I usually sail on and off my mooring. I dont do much motoring or car driving. Heres what I am worried about, buying heating oil. I cant get along without that. Last fillup at near $3.50 per Gal was close $700 just to keep warm
Good point about powerboaters
I bet that you will see much less of the gas drinking powerboaters out on the water this year. Then again, a well-off Uncle of mine said "If you have to ask how much gas does it use you probably shouldn't buy it in the first place." I also would be willing to bet that the price of powerboats might go down for a while I need to talk the marina owner into putting a dingy dock or dingy racks at the marina. I use the 8 foot bed in my F350 pickup to haul the dingy back and forth. With the current diesel prices I cringe at taking the truck to my boat (about 1.5 hours of driving away). I put $95 into my pick-up last week where it use to take me quite a bit less to fill up from 1/4 a tank. I am starting to sell things off that aren't needed to get ready for hard times. My wife has decided to sell her Lexus to get a smaller fuel efficient car (that may be the boat transportation I was looking for). She wants a Mini (if anyone knows anything about the Minis please let me know because I have serious concerns about them). I would rather her get a Pris because she commutes 35 miles each way everyday. My drive is 10 miles from my house to work (Stinkers still won't give me a take-home car even though I have been there for so long, I am a Sgt., and I am on call constantly because of Crash Reconstruction). It still costs me about $40 a week to drive to work and back (even through I work 3-4 days a week because I get called into work for stupid stuff on my days off). Since it is the off-season for sailing I am working as much over-time as I can get, which isn't that much because they hate paying overtime to supervisors, just so I can pay off as much stuff as I can. I am also going to put as much as I can into savings to get ready for a rough summer (Things may really go south this summer). It all boils down to someone HAS to do something before we hit an outright depression. If they do nothing, it is inevitable!
I bet that you will see much less of the gas drinking powerboaters out on the water this year. Then again, a well-off Uncle of mine said "If you have to ask how much gas does it use you probably shouldn't buy it in the first place." I also would be willing to bet that the price of powerboats might go down for a while
I need to talk the marina owner into putting a dingy dock or dingy racks at the marina. I use the 8 foot bed in my F350 pickup to haul the dingy back and forth. With the current diesel prices I cringe at taking the truck to my boat (about 1.5 hours of driving away). I put $95 into my pick-up last week where it use to take me quite a bit less to fill up from 1/4 a tank. I am starting to sell things off that aren't needed to get ready for hard times. My wife has decided to sell her Lexus to get a smaller fuel efficient car (that may be the boat transportation I was looking for). She wants a Mini (if anyone knows anything about the Minis please let me know because I have serious concerns about them). I would rather her get a Pris because she commutes 35 miles each way everyday. My drive is 10 miles from my house to work (Stinkers still won't give me a take-home car even though I have been there for so long, I am a Sgt., and I am on call constantly because of Crash Reconstruction). It still costs me about $40 a week to drive to work and back (even through I work 3-4 days a week because I get called into work for stupid stuff on my days off). Since it is the off-season for sailing I am working as much over-time as I can get, which isn't that much because they hate paying overtime to supervisors, just so I can pay off as much stuff as I can. I am also going to put as much as I can into savings to get ready for a rough summer (Things may really go south this summer). It all boils down to someone HAS to do something before we hit an outright depression. If they do nothing, it is inevitable!- Status