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House Battery Test
Re: House Battery Test - Question 10. How can one use the house battery to turn over the engine?
Re: House Battery Test - Question 10. How can one use the house battery to turn over the engine?
House Battery Test
Ron, I guess it depends on your battery switch setup. Most battery switches include four positions, (one, two, both, and off). If your house batteries are wired to position two, move the switch to position two and crank the engine. Hope this helps. Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust
Ron, I guess it depends on your battery switch setup. Most battery switches include four positions, (one, two, both, and off). If your house batteries are wired to position two, move the switch to position two and crank the engine. Hope this helps. Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust
Pretty easy on mine.
I just throw a switch and i can start with the house bank. any other set up and i would have no way to start when the engine battery goes bad.
I just throw a switch and i can start with the house bank. any other set up and i would have no way to start when the engine battery goes bad.
Bad Option for Question 10
What's with the "crank for about 20 seconds"? Nigel Calder: "Never crank for more than 10 seconds because you could burn up the starter motor." Looked like a trick answer and it worked on me.
What's with the "crank for about 20 seconds"? Nigel Calder: "Never crank for more than 10 seconds because you could burn up the starter motor." Looked like a trick answer and it worked on me.
Also ...
I'm familioar with Rousmanier's book and read that advice but I still disagree. I have to note the question about the galley fire says "safely" extinguish. Throwing water on burning, liquid alcohol could splash it onto the cabin sole, furnishings and headliner. Pick up the fire extinguisher or use a fire blanket. I'd NEVER put water on any flaming liquid except as a last resort. It ain't safe!
I'm familioar with Rousmanier's book and read that advice but I still disagree. I have to note the question about the galley fire says "safely" extinguish. Throwing water on burning, liquid alcohol could splash it onto the cabin sole, furnishings and headliner. Pick up the fire extinguisher or use a fire blanket. I'd NEVER put water on any flaming liquid except as a last resort. It ain't safe!
No Tricks
Hi Mike, Clearly grinding your starter motor for extended time periods without reason will burn it out. However, the test mentioned in the quiz is lifted directly from Nigel Calder's Boatowners Mechanical and Eelctrical Manual. It was not intended to be tricky. It was intended to keep us from heading out with a false sense of security about our batteries by doing the wrong test. Hope this clarifies things. Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust H37.5
Hi Mike, Clearly grinding your starter motor for extended time periods without reason will burn it out. However, the test mentioned in the quiz is lifted directly from Nigel Calder's Boatowners Mechanical and Eelctrical Manual. It was not intended to be tricky. It was intended to keep us from heading out with a false sense of security about our batteries by doing the wrong test. Hope this clarifies things. Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust H37.5
Alcohol and Water
Personally, I like mine on the rocks. A fire blanket or an extinguisher will likely work on an alcohol fire. So will water. On a prior boat we had an alcohol cannister in our oven that refused to go out when we turned the oven off and was flaming up significantly. We thought about using the extinguisher but decided to try pouring (not throwing) some water into the cannister. Stopped the fire immediately with no mess. Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust H37.5
Personally, I like mine on the rocks. A fire blanket or an extinguisher will likely work on an alcohol fire. So will water. On a prior boat we had an alcohol cannister in our oven that refused to go out when we turned the oven off and was flaming up significantly. We thought about using the extinguisher but decided to try pouring (not throwing) some water into the cannister. Stopped the fire immediately with no mess. Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust H37.5
No Water !
Concerning the fires, I don't care what Mr. Rousmanier may say. I know that if you throw water on top of alcohol in flames you will EXPAND your fire to other sections and not even see the flames !
Concerning the fires, I don't care what Mr. Rousmanier may say. I know that if you throw water on top of alcohol in flames you will EXPAND your fire to other sections and not even see the flames !
Alcohol fires
Watch an Indy car race sometime. Those cars burn alcohol and when they have a pit fire they bring on the water. Just a little water dilutes alcohol to a point where it can no longer support combustion. Just my 2 cents, Tom Brown S/V Orion's Child
Watch an Indy car race sometime. Those cars burn alcohol and when they have a pit fire they bring on the water. Just a little water dilutes alcohol to a point where it can no longer support combustion. Just my 2 cents, Tom Brown S/V Orion's Child
Too Long
Most books that I have read and courses I have completed stipulate never to run a starter motor for longer than 10 seconds at a time due to potential damage to the starter motor from overheating. So I would go along with answer C provided it was for 10 seconds vice 20.
Most books that I have read and courses I have completed stipulate never to run a starter motor for longer than 10 seconds at a time due to potential damage to the starter motor from overheating. So I would go along with answer C provided it was for 10 seconds vice 20.
This is a serious topic. fire.
water is the most effiective and safest way to put out an alchol fire. Thats why it has been the most often used fuel for about 50 years. If you want to use a fire extinguisher go ahead, I think you can make a hell of a mess of your boat if you want. I have used water several times once of a pretty big fire when a hose failed behind the stove. its clean fast and cheap and i was cooking dinner again in 15 mins. the option is yours but spending the next week cleaning my cabin from a fire extinguisher is kina like wasting my vacation!
water is the most effiective and safest way to put out an alchol fire. Thats why it has been the most often used fuel for about 50 years. If you want to use a fire extinguisher go ahead, I think you can make a hell of a mess of your boat if you want. I have used water several times once of a pretty big fire when a hose failed behind the stove. its clean fast and cheap and i was cooking dinner again in 15 mins. the option is yours but spending the next week cleaning my cabin from a fire extinguisher is kina like wasting my vacation!
Anyone else score 10/10?
Just wondering if anyone else scored a 10? I owe a lot of my boating knowledge to the courses taught by United States Power Squadron. Yes, I know this is a sailing forum, but a lot of what they teach applies to sailboats too.
Just wondering if anyone else scored a 10? I owe a lot of my boating knowledge to the courses taught by United States Power Squadron. Yes, I know this is a sailing forum, but a lot of what they teach applies to sailboats too.
Sure we did! lots of us got 10.
Lots of us got ten rite. ya think weare a buntch of dummies! dumbies no dumies. this thing wont spell what i tipe!
Lots of us got ten rite. ya think weare a buntch of dummies! dumbies no dumies. this thing wont spell what i tipe!
9/10
I didn't get 10 but got 9 I didn't know about the cord on the leach of the sail. The rest I learned was mostly from reading different magazines, chapmans and John R. book. (Don't know how to spell last name) I really enjoy the quizes, keep it up. Rob Morton S/V Euphoria
I didn't get 10 but got 9 I didn't know about the cord on the leach of the sail. The rest I learned was mostly from reading different magazines, chapmans and John R. book. (Don't know how to spell last name) I really enjoy the quizes, keep it up. Rob Morton S/V Euphoria
Nick
The quest implied that the house batteries were seperate from the starting batteries. That being the case, only the hydrometer method would work
The quest implied that the house batteries were seperate from the starting batteries. That being the case, only the hydrometer method would work
No water
Water only works if there is a very small amount of alcohol burning,and the canister is intact. if the canister is leaking or there is an alcohol spill fire, water will most likely spread the fire, it will float on top of the water initially untill there is enough to dilute it. Your best option is to use your dry chemical fire extinguisher. Barry Broyles MICRB Fire Instructor III Baltimore City Fire Department
Water only works if there is a very small amount of alcohol burning,and the canister is intact. if the canister is leaking or there is an alcohol spill fire, water will most likely spread the fire, it will float on top of the water initially untill there is enough to dilute it. Your best option is to use your dry chemical fire extinguisher. Barry Broyles MICRB Fire Instructor III Baltimore City Fire Department
A foam extinguisher is a better solution
The water-based foam extinguisher is a better solution because the bubbles tend to smother the alcohol fire. And there is no awful dry chemical to clean up afterwards. Just soapy water. I know the Coast Guard hasn't approved them yet, but UL has. Home Depot has them. Al Carlson
The water-based foam extinguisher is a better solution because the bubbles tend to smother the alcohol fire. And there is no awful dry chemical to clean up afterwards. Just soapy water. I know the Coast Guard hasn't approved them yet, but UL has. Home Depot has them. Al Carlson
never again!
say what you will but, I will never again try to put an alcohol fire out with water. several times water worked with a very small fire but, once I had water spread an alcohol fire well beyond where the fire was and alcohol does and will float on water. I rather clean up the extinguisher mess than buy new curtains and refinish the interior!
say what you will but, I will never again try to put an alcohol fire out with water. several times water worked with a very small fire but, once I had water spread an alcohol fire well beyond where the fire was and alcohol does and will float on water. I rather clean up the extinguisher mess than buy new curtains and refinish the interior!
Alcohol stove question
Dan, me too-- I got that one wrong thinking 'none of the above' was the right answer. What are 10-BC extinguishers for anyway? JC 2
Dan, me too-- I got that one wrong thinking 'none of the above' was the right answer. What are 10-BC extinguishers for anyway? JC 2
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