Well, you all are going to think I'm crazy but here goes. I have finally decided that my 1972 Pearson 26 must be painted on the decks, cabin tops and cockpit. It has never been painted and has the origional light green fiberglass that has worn through in a few places to the dark blue undercoating. The topsides are fine and a good waxing really looks good. The hull is fine with no blisters. I stoped by Boaters world and West Marine Tuesday to pick up some deck paint. Well, SURPRISE SURPRISE That stuf is $37.50 a QUART!! And only a few colors! I need a gallon. That comes to $160.00! SOOOOO I went on line and brought up Duron house paints. They have Porch and Deck paint, a low gloss enamel and made for exterior use and heavy foot traffic. $35.00 a GALLON! And the best part is the color selection is next to endless. Boaters World had only 4-5 colors. I have a nice little boat but it ain't no yacht. I just want it to look nice at a minimal cost. Has anyone ever used house paint on their boat and were you happy? David
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That house right by the marina does not use boat paint does it? Properly prepair the surface and you should be fine. I have done this a few times to cover over my auto bounding repairs to my gelcoat. Never seen it come off yet.
That house right by the marina does not use boat paint does it? Properly prepair the surface and you should be fine. I have done this a few times to cover over my auto bounding repairs to my gelcoat. Never seen it come off yet.
Keep us posted.
I used Rustoleum on the fiberglass top of my old travel trailer, two years ago. So far, it is still ok. In Practical Sailor a few years ago, they had an article about how well paints held up to fading. For one color, I think it was red, they gave plain old Rustoleum a good review. I have often thought about houses by the water. Like the previous poster says, houses are painted with house paints that lasts several years. Keep us posted on your project. Maybe you can write a new article for Practical Sailor.
I used Rustoleum on the fiberglass top of my old travel trailer, two years ago. So far, it is still ok. In Practical Sailor a few years ago, they had an article about how well paints held up to fading. For one color, I think it was red, they gave plain old Rustoleum a good review. I have often thought about houses by the water. Like the previous poster says, houses are painted with house paints that lasts several years. Keep us posted on your project. Maybe you can write a new article for Practical Sailor.
no body walks on the house next to the marina
the wear and tear on the deck of a boat is way to much for house paint. you will be really unhappy in a year or so unless you like to paint more than me. The marine stuff is way harder and more durable than house paint. Maybe why they dont use it on cars either? It can be done but its not the way to go.
the wear and tear on the deck of a boat is way to much for house paint. you will be really unhappy in a year or so unless you like to paint more than me. The marine stuff is way harder and more durable than house paint. Maybe why they dont use it on cars either? It can be done but its not the way to go.
Check out some of the home built boat sites
A lot of the guys building their own boats use the porch and deck paint. It is designed to be walked on and is supposed to dry harder than regular house paint. I have a couple of small fiberglass repairs on my 1989 Sea Pearl that I am going to use it on. Just haven't had the chance to paint yet.
A lot of the guys building their own boats use the porch and deck paint. It is designed to be walked on and is supposed to dry harder than regular house paint. I have a couple of small fiberglass repairs on my 1989 Sea Pearl that I am going to use it on. Just haven't had the chance to paint yet.
Rustoleum
Off the subject of deck painting but a use for Rustoleum. My flexible PVC cowl ventilators were faded dirty and generally ugly. I scraped and painted with Rustoleum and they looked new. Sold the boat but I know that the paint lasted 2 years.
Off the subject of deck painting but a use for Rustoleum. My flexible PVC cowl ventilators were faded dirty and generally ugly. I scraped and painted with Rustoleum and they looked new. Sold the boat but I know that the paint lasted 2 years.
David ,since you are in Maryland find a
McCormack paint store and get their Interlock urethane paint. I used it on a dink 2 years ago and it still looks fresh after those two years exposed to the weather. The local paint store used it on the warehouse floor. Industrial enamel is every bit as tough and durable as marine paint. Edited to add: I painted the vinyl roof on my caprice with semi-gloss acrylic house paint. it looked fine for the three years I kept it after that.
McCormack paint store and get their Interlock urethane paint. I used it on a dink 2 years ago and it still looks fresh after those two years exposed to the weather. The local paint store used it on the warehouse floor. Industrial enamel is every bit as tough and durable as marine paint. Edited to add: I painted the vinyl roof on my caprice with semi-gloss acrylic house paint. it looked fine for the three years I kept it after that.
Doubtful..
I actually have been watching a couple boats in my Marina that were done with House Paints (Baers and Glidden from Home Depot) to see what the end results would be.Personally,I've always used TopSides OnePart Polyeurathane on my chores..but as it now runs like 35.00 a quert I'm looking for a replacement..found some Other Brand One Part Polyeurathane on eBay for l;ike 80.00 a gallon but have yet to use it and assess the results of that brand.Something I have seen good results with..Appliance Epoxy Enamel (Home Depot).I used this on my Dock Locker when I painted it and on my sons Dink Sailbaot and both have shown good results..the Dink is sailed hard,walked all over and left in the sun and rain..been almost two years now and it just now looking like it needs touch up..and it sees almost year around use down here.The only downside to this stuff is it comes on spray cans and generates alot of overspray in the air.I think I may give it a try on my 30' Lancer in the cockpit and see how it works out.PERSONALLY..I'd look at some kind of good AntiSkid paint to use on the walked on areas of the deck and then try the Epoxy Appliance Paint on the rest..this should gives years of service with less cost..but messy application.As for the boats in my Marina that were done with the House Paints..neither has proven very satisfactory..addhesion problems and wear are the worst of it..they both repaint annually,if not more frequently and swear they'd not do it again.Your results may vary.In any event,hope something here is helpful. Fair Winds >>> David
I actually have been watching a couple boats in my Marina that were done with House Paints (Baers and Glidden from Home Depot) to see what the end results would be.Personally,I've always used TopSides OnePart Polyeurathane on my chores..but as it now runs like 35.00 a quert I'm looking for a replacement..found some Other Brand One Part Polyeurathane on eBay for l;ike 80.00 a gallon but have yet to use it and assess the results of that brand.Something I have seen good results with..Appliance Epoxy Enamel (Home Depot).I used this on my Dock Locker when I painted it and on my sons Dink Sailbaot and both have shown good results..the Dink is sailed hard,walked all over and left in the sun and rain..been almost two years now and it just now looking like it needs touch up..and it sees almost year around use down here.The only downside to this stuff is it comes on spray cans and generates alot of overspray in the air.I think I may give it a try on my 30' Lancer in the cockpit and see how it works out.PERSONALLY..I'd look at some kind of good AntiSkid paint to use on the walked on areas of the deck and then try the Epoxy Appliance Paint on the rest..this should gives years of service with less cost..but messy application.As for the boats in my Marina that were done with the House Paints..neither has proven very satisfactory..addhesion problems and wear are the worst of it..they both repaint annually,if not more frequently and swear they'd not do it again.Your results may vary.In any event,hope something here is helpful. Fair Winds >>> David
House paint
Seems like there was a post on this some time back, and the poster had used one of the uretahnes from Home Depot. Maybe Glidden?? And the report was so far so good. I am wondering what difference there would be between a one part urethane floor/house paint, and a one part urethane boat paint. The difference in bucks sure makes it worth looking into.
Seems like there was a post on this some time back, and the poster had used one of the uretahnes from Home Depot. Maybe Glidden?? And the report was so far so good. I am wondering what difference there would be between a one part urethane floor/house paint, and a one part urethane boat paint. The difference in bucks sure makes it worth looking into.
"House Paint"...
On my last boat I used white latex semi-gloss exterior house paint inside all the lockers and storage compartments. On interior seat locker lids and on the inside-the-head bulkheads I used a white one-part polyeurathane porch/deck enamel from a True Value. Most surfaces required two coats to get good coverage with a solid white result. It formed a hard, shiny surface that has held up extremely well over the past five years and still cleans up well. At twelve bucks a quart it was bargin!
On my last boat I used white latex semi-gloss exterior house paint inside all the lockers and storage compartments. On interior seat locker lids and on the inside-the-head bulkheads I used a white one-part polyeurathane porch/deck enamel from a True Value. Most surfaces required two coats to get good coverage with a solid white result. It formed a hard, shiny surface that has held up extremely well over the past five years and still cleans up well. At twelve bucks a quart it was bargin!
here's another vote for latex house paint
Two seasons ago I let my daughter paint below the water line, something for all to see when we were well heeled over. Two winter power washes and I still can't get it off, I didn't even prep just brushed it on over the bottm paint. Since then I've painted the cabin ceiling with cabinet paint and where I dropped some on the table it wont come off either.
Two seasons ago I let my daughter paint below the water line, something for all to see when we were well heeled over. Two winter power washes and I still can't get it off, I didn't even prep just brushed it on over the bottm paint. Since then I've painted the cabin ceiling with cabinet paint and where I dropped some on the table it wont come off either.
Yet another example
of how Home Depot has it hands down over WM and the like. There are times where you should go with a marine specific product. PFD come to mind along with some other safety devices. But lets face it rope is rope, ss is ss and now paint is paint. I personally believe that it is due to a perception of folks that just plain don't know that "if I buy a marine approved gizmo I'll be safer" Not sure if it is true but sure helps to keep the prices down at WM.
of how Home Depot has it hands down over WM and the like. There are times where you should go with a marine specific product. PFD come to mind along with some other safety devices. But lets face it rope is rope, ss is ss and now paint is paint. I personally believe that it is due to a perception of folks that just plain don't know that "if I buy a marine approved gizmo I'll be safer" Not sure if it is true but sure helps to keep the prices down at WM.
House Paint
I think I would certainly be willing to give one of the urethane paints from Home Depot/Lowes a try, but wouldn't go so far as to use a latex based paint. If you shop around the paint dept. you'll find that the latex based paints are not much cheaper than the urethanes. It would seem to me that the urethane paints would be much better on a boat than the latex stuff. Certainly enough better to more than make up for the slight price difference.
I think I would certainly be willing to give one of the urethane paints from Home Depot/Lowes a try, but wouldn't go so far as to use a latex based paint. If you shop around the paint dept. you'll find that the latex based paints are not much cheaper than the urethanes. It would seem to me that the urethane paints would be much better on a boat than the latex stuff. Certainly enough better to more than make up for the slight price difference.
Yes, you can use house paint as long as you
use a brush and not a rollor. You want to get that nice brushed on finish.
use a brush and not a rollor. You want to get that nice brushed on finish.
Actually Waffle
You will get a better finsih if you roll and tip. The roller is used to distribute the correct amount of paint which it does much better than a brush. You then use the brush to get your finish. And don't forget to thin the paint properly. Tim R.
You will get a better finsih if you roll and tip. The roller is used to distribute the correct amount of paint which it does much better than a brush. You then use the brush to get your finish. And don't forget to thin the paint properly. Tim R.
More on "house paint"...
Waffle, you can roll on paint and get good coverage over fiberglass cloth in a locker that doesn't get much daylight by using a thicker nap roller. In exposed areas you can do what's called "roll and tip" with a good roller and brush. With a brush alone, you need a good quality brush to get a nice layer that doesn't run and lays down flat and dries smooth. Apply the same level of care as applying varnish. Nice, latex house paint on a house doesn't wash off after the first rain storm. You do have to be selective as to what you use and how and where you put it on. Using it on a boat bottom is not the optimum solution. Lastly, the out-gassing of a latex paint as it dries and cures is not as strong or long lasting as that of a polyeurathane (or as much of a health risk). On my last boat, it took a couple of weeks for the polyeurathane smell to go away, but just one week for the latex, given a closed up boat after each was applied. Both are a lot stronger smell in the confines of a boat than in a household room with adequate ventilation.
Waffle, you can roll on paint and get good coverage over fiberglass cloth in a locker that doesn't get much daylight by using a thicker nap roller. In exposed areas you can do what's called "roll and tip" with a good roller and brush. With a brush alone, you need a good quality brush to get a nice layer that doesn't run and lays down flat and dries smooth. Apply the same level of care as applying varnish. Nice, latex house paint on a house doesn't wash off after the first rain storm. You do have to be selective as to what you use and how and where you put it on. Using it on a boat bottom is not the optimum solution. Lastly, the out-gassing of a latex paint as it dries and cures is not as strong or long lasting as that of a polyeurathane (or as much of a health risk). On my last boat, it took a couple of weeks for the polyeurathane smell to go away, but just one week for the latex, given a closed up boat after each was applied. Both are a lot stronger smell in the confines of a boat than in a household room with adequate ventilation.
You learn something everyday!
is it hard to spray? I think you'll have to tent off the area in the marina, if they let you do it at all.
is it hard to spray? I think you'll have to tent off the area in the marina, if they let you do it at all.
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Dan, I think we are pretty much in agreement on most of this. The origional post was about exterior. I agree about the odor of the urethanes for interior usage in a boat. I just think the urethanes would be tougher as far as the wear and skuffing a hull subject to. I have sprayed literally thousands of gallons of house paint over the past 30 years. They are OK as far as fading, and water resistance goes, but they are not are not made to take any kind of wear, as we do not normally walk on walls, and as such are usually quite a bit softer. Also what is called gloss in a latex paint leaves something to be desired in my opinion. My entire point is that for a very small difference in costs, you can use a urethane on the exterior, and have a much better appering, and longer lasting paint job. And bye the way, check out renting an airless and spraying the entire job. Not near as much mess and overspray with an airless, and they do a very good job on these types of paint.
Dan, I think we are pretty much in agreement on most of this. The origional post was about exterior. I agree about the odor of the urethanes for interior usage in a boat. I just think the urethanes would be tougher as far as the wear and skuffing a hull subject to. I have sprayed literally thousands of gallons of house paint over the past 30 years. They are OK as far as fading, and water resistance goes, but they are not are not made to take any kind of wear, as we do not normally walk on walls, and as such are usually quite a bit softer. Also what is called gloss in a latex paint leaves something to be desired in my opinion. My entire point is that for a very small difference in costs, you can use a urethane on the exterior, and have a much better appering, and longer lasting paint job. And bye the way, check out renting an airless and spraying the entire job. Not near as much mess and overspray with an airless, and they do a very good job on these types of paint.
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