Has anyone used these generators on their boat and what can you use, microwave, coffee maker,computer,ac .
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I have the 2000, and I love it. The unit that you need to purchase will have to do with you want to operate. e.g. You want to operate a charger that pulls 10 amps at 120 volts A/C (vac). You will need the 2000, because the 1000, if memory serves me right only provides a maximum of 10 amps at full constant load. I have always felt that if you purchase the unit with a little extra than you need you will get the best service, as well as the longevity of the unit. The 2000 that I have operates very quietly, and runs an Air Conditioner for 5 hours without refill, which is only 1 gallon of gas. I also use it to operate the battery charger when out extended periods, and it is easier to run the small gen-set rather than run the diesel engine. Mine also has a 12 volt D.C. outlet also which can be used to operate 12 volt items as well. Remember when figuring how many amps you will use can always figured using Amps x Volts = Watts (a x v = w) Hope this helps Don Rockport, Tx.
I have the 2000, and I love it. The unit that you need to purchase will have to do with you want to operate. e.g. You want to operate a charger that pulls 10 amps at 120 volts A/C (vac). You will need the 2000, because the 1000, if memory serves me right only provides a maximum of 10 amps at full constant load. I have always felt that if you purchase the unit with a little extra than you need you will get the best service, as well as the longevity of the unit. The 2000 that I have operates very quietly, and runs an Air Conditioner for 5 hours without refill, which is only 1 gallon of gas. I also use it to operate the battery charger when out extended periods, and it is easier to run the small gen-set rather than run the diesel engine. Mine also has a 12 volt D.C. outlet also which can be used to operate 12 volt items as well. Remember when figuring how many amps you will use can always figured using Amps x Volts = Watts (a x v = w) Hope this helps Don Rockport, Tx.
What size and kind of AC do you have Don
Hi Don, So the Honda 2000 can run a A/C unit. What size and what brand of A/C do you have? Thanks Stirling Hasen,
Hi Don, So the Honda 2000 can run a A/C unit. What size and what brand of A/C do you have? Thanks Stirling Hasen,
more questions on the 2000
Im interested too. is it better to charge batteries with the 110 into a charger or to use the 12 volt side and charge direct? Why?
Im interested too. is it better to charge batteries with the 110 into a charger or to use the 12 volt side and charge direct? Why?
Nick,what size is your load for gen.
You just need to come up with a list of needs,and be sure it will handel it! Sitrling gave you the math!*** Now my uses is lite,so I have a Coleman-Powermate/UltiMite 1100 Watt /90amps that is only 23lb. and very small,uses the 2-cycle OB gas that I have on board anyway for the outboard (about same as Honda 1000w but cost much less,is not as many lb.s and can use ob gas! it will run a small ac of 800w but nothing eles at the same time!
You just need to come up with a list of needs,and be sure it will handel it! Sitrling gave you the math!*** Now my uses is lite,so I have a Coleman-Powermate/UltiMite 1100 Watt /90amps that is only 23lb. and very small,uses the 2-cycle OB gas that I have on board anyway for the outboard (about same as Honda 1000w but cost much less,is not as many lb.s and can use ob gas! it will run a small ac of 800w but nothing eles at the same time!
Charging Better Through Inverter
Answer for Ed: Charging capability is MUCH better through the AC output vice the DC output provided the output is run though a large inverter (1000W inverter for an EU1000 gen set). Don't remember the specs but the DC side is small, say 10 amps?? (10A @ 12V = 120W) give or take, while the AC side is the rated capacity, 1000 or 2000W. When run through a 1000W Heart inverter the max output is 50A DC, limited by the inverter. Appliances: These units do not like microwaves. A small microwave, say rated at 700W, will over-tax a 1000W unit and be hard on the microwave causing it to "groan". A work-around is to set the microwave at a reduced power level, say 60% in this example. Editorial Comment: The Honda EU generators are not designed for use in a salt-air environment and will corrode easily. For example, the aluminum will oxidize, the iron/steel will rust, and who knows what happens to the electrical and electronic parts. The corrosive aspects can take place in days - not years as on dry land. These are things to consider when considering this size of investment. Perhaps some of these negative aspects can be mitigated - but not eliminated - by carefully protecting the unit when not in use. Perhaps it would be good to add that these units were never designed for marine use and, consequently, the skipper should take into account the possible short comings and hazards when using a unit in a non-approved environment.
Answer for Ed: Charging capability is MUCH better through the AC output vice the DC output provided the output is run though a large inverter (1000W inverter for an EU1000 gen set). Don't remember the specs but the DC side is small, say 10 amps?? (10A @ 12V = 120W) give or take, while the AC side is the rated capacity, 1000 or 2000W. When run through a 1000W Heart inverter the max output is 50A DC, limited by the inverter. Appliances: These units do not like microwaves. A small microwave, say rated at 700W, will over-tax a 1000W unit and be hard on the microwave causing it to "groan". A work-around is to set the microwave at a reduced power level, say 60% in this example. Editorial Comment: The Honda EU generators are not designed for use in a salt-air environment and will corrode easily. For example, the aluminum will oxidize, the iron/steel will rust, and who knows what happens to the electrical and electronic parts. The corrosive aspects can take place in days - not years as on dry land. These are things to consider when considering this size of investment. Perhaps some of these negative aspects can be mitigated - but not eliminated - by carefully protecting the unit when not in use. Perhaps it would be good to add that these units were never designed for marine use and, consequently, the skipper should take into account the possible short comings and hazards when using a unit in a non-approved environment.
Sitrling
I have a 8000 BTU unit that I put in the forward hatch. It easily operates the unit. I must have confused others as far as battery charging is concerned. I built a short plug that connects gen-set and electrical recpectacle that shore power would attach at dockside. Also I keep the gen-set at home except when going on overnights when A/C, or charging will be necessary. When we loose power at home the Gen-set is used to operate necessary things like refrigerator and of course the TV. I guess because I keep the gen-set at home I have experienced no deteration in the unit. I originally purchased the unit when a storm was approaching, and I knew I would have need for a generator. Hope this has been some help.
I have a 8000 BTU unit that I put in the forward hatch. It easily operates the unit. I must have confused others as far as battery charging is concerned. I built a short plug that connects gen-set and electrical recpectacle that shore power would attach at dockside. Also I keep the gen-set at home except when going on overnights when A/C, or charging will be necessary. When we loose power at home the Gen-set is used to operate necessary things like refrigerator and of course the TV. I guess because I keep the gen-set at home I have experienced no deteration in the unit. I originally purchased the unit when a storm was approaching, and I knew I would have need for a generator. Hope this has been some help.
Honda gens
Nick; I have a Honda 2000 and love it. Running that small, quiet, one cylinder engine on the bow is so much better than running four cylinders of diesel with the exhaust in the cockpit. The only down side is the Honda will put out fewer amps into a low battery, about 60 through my Freedom 20 charger v. 75 or 80 for a high-output alternator, but that 75 or 80 amps will quickly fall to 60 anyway. Plus, the generator will power the electric water heater whereas the diesel won't really get warm enough to heatwater without a good load on it. I keep mine on board, in a cockpit locker when not in use. Here in So. Cal. we don't use AC.
Nick; I have a Honda 2000 and love it. Running that small, quiet, one cylinder engine on the bow is so much better than running four cylinders of diesel with the exhaust in the cockpit. The only down side is the Honda will put out fewer amps into a low battery, about 60 through my Freedom 20 charger v. 75 or 80 for a high-output alternator, but that 75 or 80 amps will quickly fall to 60 anyway. Plus, the generator will power the electric water heater whereas the diesel won't really get warm enough to heatwater without a good load on it. I keep mine on board, in a cockpit locker when not in use. Here in So. Cal. we don't use AC.
Marine-Rated Portable Gen's
...require that fuel NOT spill when generator inverted. I never worry about mine, as long as it's stored /w empty fuel tank. I takes my chances running it sitting (unfastened) on bow deck. Mine (Yamaha) stored in big plastic covered tub in front of helm (cockpit), & occasionally flooded /w rain water - requires immediate attention - lasts about 3-4 years (under these harsh conditions). If you can take better care of it, should last much longer. Gord
...require that fuel NOT spill when generator inverted. I never worry about mine, as long as it's stored /w empty fuel tank. I takes my chances running it sitting (unfastened) on bow deck. Mine (Yamaha) stored in big plastic covered tub in front of helm (cockpit), & occasionally flooded /w rain water - requires immediate attention - lasts about 3-4 years (under these harsh conditions). If you can take better care of it, should last much longer. Gord
Honda Generator
I have used the Honda 2000 for the past 4 seasons. I power a 5,000 but Mermaid ac, which cools the sleeping area. The generator runs at half speed while the ac is on. 1 gal of gas runs the unit for approx. 7 hrs. Great unit. Note: I purchased two co detectors from Homedepot just to be on the safe side!
I have used the Honda 2000 for the past 4 seasons. I power a 5,000 but Mermaid ac, which cools the sleeping area. The generator runs at half speed while the ac is on. 1 gal of gas runs the unit for approx. 7 hrs. Great unit. Note: I purchased two co detectors from Homedepot just to be on the safe side!
Honda 2000
Will the honda 2000 run a 100amp charger? I was told that the 2000 would not work on my boat, because my 2000 watt inverter has a 100 amp battery charger, and the honda 2000 would only handle a 50amp charger. Does anyone Know? I would like to just plug my shorepower into the honda 2000.
Will the honda 2000 run a 100amp charger? I was told that the 2000 would not work on my boat, because my 2000 watt inverter has a 100 amp battery charger, and the honda 2000 would only handle a 50amp charger. Does anyone Know? I would like to just plug my shorepower into the honda 2000.
Where's Jeff?
My dockmate, Jeff, just bought a Honda 2000. It will NOT run his H386 16K btu air-conditioner. He has offered to let me try it with my 12K so I will get back to you with the results of that test. And that will also be a test of a 100Amp charger. Pretty sure that is what my Freedom 20 is rated. But I thought we read that people were using Honda 2000's with the Heart/Xantrex line of inverter/chargers. He also said that it makes the entire boat vibrate. He is considering hanging it from a halyard but I think you would feel that just as much through the mast.
My dockmate, Jeff, just bought a Honda 2000. It will NOT run his H386 16K btu air-conditioner. He has offered to let me try it with my 12K so I will get back to you with the results of that test. And that will also be a test of a 100Amp charger. Pretty sure that is what my Freedom 20 is rated. But I thought we read that people were using Honda 2000's with the Heart/Xantrex line of inverter/chargers. He also said that it makes the entire boat vibrate. He is considering hanging it from a halyard but I think you would feel that just as much through the mast.
(2000W x 0.8) / 13.6V = 117A
Generators are usually rated momentary (ie:2000W), and continuous (usually 80%) - so a Honda 2000 should provide 1600 Watts continuous (2000 x 0.8 = 1600). Amps = Watts divided by Volts (2000W / 13.6V = 117.6A) - so you should get 117 Amps @ 13.6V, or about 12A @ 120V. Hope this helps. See also "Ohm's Law & Boats" @ the Cruisers Forum, under Maintenance, Boatbuilding, Tips & Tricks ...
Generators are usually rated momentary (ie:2000W), and continuous (usually 80%) - so a Honda 2000 should provide 1600 Watts continuous (2000 x 0.8 = 1600). Amps = Watts divided by Volts (2000W / 13.6V = 117.6A) - so you should get 117 Amps @ 13.6V, or about 12A @ 120V. Hope this helps. See also "Ohm's Law & Boats" @ the Cruisers Forum, under Maintenance, Boatbuilding, Tips & Tricks ...
Honda EU1000iA2 Generator Output
For info re: the 1000W model, this is what it says in the Manual about power: Substantial overloading will switch off the AC circuit protector. Exceeding the time limit for maximum power operation or slightly overloading the generator may not switch the AC circuit protector OFF, but will shorten the service life of the generator. Limit operation requiring maximum power to 30 minutes. Maximum power is: 1,000 VA For continuous operation, do not exceed the rated power. Rated power is: 900 VA In either case, the total power requirements (VA) of all appliances connected must be considered. Appliance and power tool manufacturers usually list rating information near the model number or serial number. Editorial comment: Motor or inductive loads and motors starting up under load (refrigerators) are harder on generators so a more consertive (lower) rating would be appropriate to avoid wear and tear on both pieces of equipment (generator and what it is trying to power). Hope this helps to shed a little more "light" on the subject.
For info re: the 1000W model, this is what it says in the Manual about power: Substantial overloading will switch off the AC circuit protector. Exceeding the time limit for maximum power operation or slightly overloading the generator may not switch the AC circuit protector OFF, but will shorten the service life of the generator. Limit operation requiring maximum power to 30 minutes. Maximum power is: 1,000 VA For continuous operation, do not exceed the rated power. Rated power is: 900 VA In either case, the total power requirements (VA) of all appliances connected must be considered. Appliance and power tool manufacturers usually list rating information near the model number or serial number. Editorial comment: Motor or inductive loads and motors starting up under load (refrigerators) are harder on generators so a more consertive (lower) rating would be appropriate to avoid wear and tear on both pieces of equipment (generator and what it is trying to power). Hope this helps to shed a little more "light" on the subject.
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