I recently purchased a 1980 H-37 Cutter with no holding tank (it was removed some time ago) present. Do anyone know the dimentions of the original holding tank, I would like to purchase one and install it along with a new macerator pump. Any advice? Thank you in advance!!! Gabriel
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There is only one guy in the world that knows
because he "replaced" in the true sense of the word, the original holding tank under the shower seat with another aluminum tank under the shower seat. And I have seen it. You either have to cut out the shower seat or cut out the cross wise bulkhead under the vee bearth to get the new tank in. Anyway, email dsmiller "at" u "dot"washington"dot"edu and he should know. Like Fred says, I am gong with lectrasan when my tank on the same boat fails ad put the unit behind the shower seat and move the discharge to the starboard side. I have alread moved the dock pump out to the starboard side, up behind the shower, so it is not going up the port side hanging locker. Won't need that puppy when the lectrasan goes in though.
because he "replaced" in the true sense of the word, the original holding tank under the shower seat with another aluminum tank under the shower seat. And I have seen it. You either have to cut out the shower seat or cut out the cross wise bulkhead under the vee bearth to get the new tank in. Anyway, email dsmiller "at" u "dot"washington"dot"edu and he should know. Like Fred says, I am gong with lectrasan when my tank on the same boat fails ad put the unit behind the shower seat and move the discharge to the starboard side. I have alread moved the dock pump out to the starboard side, up behind the shower, so it is not going up the port side hanging locker. Won't need that puppy when the lectrasan goes in though.
Lectrasan is good BUT
What are the discharge rules in your area?? If you can't discharge any waste overboard, including treated waste, within three miles from the coast, then you should have a holding tank anyway. I put a lectrasan in my '86 H31 a few years ago and it's good to have but it discharges into my holding tank, then I pump out via a macerator when out far enough, otherwise I pump out at the dock. Good luck with your project.
What are the discharge rules in your area?? If you can't discharge any waste overboard, including treated waste, within three miles from the coast, then you should have a holding tank anyway. I put a lectrasan in my '86 H31 a few years ago and it's good to have but it discharges into my holding tank, then I pump out via a macerator when out far enough, otherwise I pump out at the dock. Good luck with your project.
You said it Gil. Good as in 'Lectrasan'.
These units are at least 1000 times better than the Coast Guard requires. They are so good that the manufacturer list the bacterial discharge after treatment as a negative number!
These no discharge zones are a product of politicians trying to appear as environmentalist to garner votes. They succeed because most of the public has no idea of the issues or technology involved. Kinda shows how much power we boaters have. None. Kinda like in my home state. We are the only ones still paying excise licensing tax on our property. Even motorhomes have $30 tabs now. Why? Because we got left off of the repeal ballot because nobody noticed.
These units are at least 1000 times better than the Coast Guard requires. They are so good that the manufacturer list the bacterial discharge after treatment as a negative number!
These no discharge zones are a product of politicians trying to appear as environmentalist to garner votes. They succeed because most of the public has no idea of the issues or technology involved. Kinda shows how much power we boaters have. None. Kinda like in my home state. We are the only ones still paying excise licensing tax on our property. Even motorhomes have $30 tabs now. Why? Because we got left off of the repeal ballot because nobody noticed.
Gil did you state that correctly?
Do you discharge to tank, then to lectrasan, then overboard? I thought you had to put the lectrasan "downriver" from the tank so discharge is from lectrasan directly and not from tank?
Do you discharge to tank, then to lectrasan, then overboard? I thought you had to put the lectrasan "downriver" from the tank so discharge is from lectrasan directly and not from tank?
You got it backward, Scott...
He's sending the discharge from the L/S to his tank, then dumping or pumping out his tank. That pretty much defeats the reason for installing a Lectra/San...'cuz once waste goes into a tank, it's no longer considered treated waste. Reason: although the L/S does reduce bacteria count to < 10/100 ml--even to -0- sometimes--only one of the li'l buggers has to survive to quickly multiply into zillions in the tank, especially in warm weather. So treating waste just to hold it to pump out or dump later is a waste of effort and power resources. That's why Raritan developed their "Hold 'n' Treat System"...which is a series of timers and relays that allows a tank to emptied via the Lectra/San. Notice that I said "emptied," not "dumped"...'cuz the L/S can only accept a max of 1 gal. at a time...so the system has to meter out a gallon, treat it...meter out another gallon...treat it...it's a time consuming process. You can read all about how the "Hold 'n' Treat" system works here: http://www.raritaneng.com/products/waste_treatment/index.html They show it as complete package including the tank, but it can be retrofitted to any existing holding tank and electric overboard discharge pump. Since Gil is in RI, which has state-wide "no discharge" but also has immediate access to open sea, he can't use his L/S as it's designed to be used (treat and discharge directly overboard) and doesn't need to treat at sea where he can discharge. So he'd really be better off putting a y-valve in his head discharge line so he can flush directly into the tank and save the wear and tear on his Lectra/San for when when he cruises into waters where he can use it...like LIS and the Chesapeake. Otoh, unless Gabe spends a lot of time in the Keys, a treatment device would be an ideal solution for him...'cuz, with the possible exception of a few misguided marinas, the Keys are the only "no discharge" waters with 500 miles of him.
He's sending the discharge from the L/S to his tank, then dumping or pumping out his tank. That pretty much defeats the reason for installing a Lectra/San...'cuz once waste goes into a tank, it's no longer considered treated waste. Reason: although the L/S does reduce bacteria count to < 10/100 ml--even to -0- sometimes--only one of the li'l buggers has to survive to quickly multiply into zillions in the tank, especially in warm weather. So treating waste just to hold it to pump out or dump later is a waste of effort and power resources. That's why Raritan developed their "Hold 'n' Treat System"...which is a series of timers and relays that allows a tank to emptied via the Lectra/San. Notice that I said "emptied," not "dumped"...'cuz the L/S can only accept a max of 1 gal. at a time...so the system has to meter out a gallon, treat it...meter out another gallon...treat it...it's a time consuming process. You can read all about how the "Hold 'n' Treat" system works here: http://www.raritaneng.com/products/waste_treatment/index.html They show it as complete package including the tank, but it can be retrofitted to any existing holding tank and electric overboard discharge pump. Since Gil is in RI, which has state-wide "no discharge" but also has immediate access to open sea, he can't use his L/S as it's designed to be used (treat and discharge directly overboard) and doesn't need to treat at sea where he can discharge. So he'd really be better off putting a y-valve in his head discharge line so he can flush directly into the tank and save the wear and tear on his Lectra/San for when when he cruises into waters where he can use it...like LIS and the Chesapeake. Otoh, unless Gabe spends a lot of time in the Keys, a treatment device would be an ideal solution for him...'cuz, with the possible exception of a few misguided marinas, the Keys are the only "no discharge" waters with 500 miles of him.
Peggy, thats what I thought
It is not legal to treat and hold, but OK to hold then treat ( re the 3 mile deal) and if outside no discharge, the best is treat and discharge and forget the tank.
It is not legal to treat and hold, but OK to hold then treat ( re the 3 mile deal) and if outside no discharge, the best is treat and discharge and forget the tank.
Great advise! Thanks
I decided to go with a polyetilene tank. It does have one 1-1/2" inlet and 1-1/2" outlet along with a 3/4" vent. One 1-1/2" hole is on top and the other on the bottom of the tank. The question is.... where should I put the macerator pump? top or bottom? Thanks!
I decided to go with a polyetilene tank. It does have one 1-1/2" inlet and 1-1/2" outlet along with a 3/4" vent. One 1-1/2" hole is on top and the other on the bottom of the tank. The question is.... where should I put the macerator pump? top or bottom? Thanks!
I bought mine...
...with a 1" vent line for better air flow. Both in and out are located on the top of the tank with no possibility of an accidental spill. A pick-up tube is inserted into the pump out side. Ronco will install any size fittings in any location for you.
...with a 1" vent line for better air flow. Both in and out are located on the top of the tank with no possibility of an accidental spill. A pick-up tube is inserted into the pump out side. Ronco will install any size fittings in any location for you.
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