Holding Tank Material?

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Jun 12, 2004
1,181
Allied Mistress 39 Ketch Kemah,Tx.
I will be building a holding tank in the near future out of fiberglass...i think. Is there any reason that i couldnt build it out of glass using polyester resin? It will be somewhere between 25 to 40 gallons. How thick should it be? Tony B
 
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Bill

a permanant fixture?

Would it be glassed into the boat? Seems like you might want to re-think this one, or maybe I'm missing something. I would guess that the materials involved will cost you more than just calling Ronco... B
 

tcbro

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Jun 3, 2004
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Hunter 33.5 Middle River, MD
I agree with Bill

Go with Ronco. Tom s/v Orion's Child
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
TonyB, Mine is self built of fiber glass and

polyester resin. I made it to fit the bilge it is about 1/4 inch thick with a 1 1/2 inch PVC pipe glassed in where I needed inlets and vents. I pump out with the inlet pipe just shifting a "Y" valve as needed. The inlet pipe goes to the bottom at the low end of the tank and the vent fitting is locsted at the top of the high end of the tank. Installation is simple it rests on top of the ballast and is tabbed in along the top. If I should need to take it out I can grind out the tabbing in five minutes and disconnect the hoses. My floor are fastened with screws. Chopped strand mat is easier to work into the shapes you need and less likely to leak through the weave.
 
Dec 2, 1997
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I agree with Bill too.

Ronco Plastics (no relation to the Vego-Matic Ronco, btw) makes TOP quality thick-walled seamless rotomolded PE tanks for a very reasonable price and have more than 400 shapes and sizes, including over 100 that are non-rectangular. And they install fittings in the sizes and locations specified by the customer when they make the tank. Their catalog is online at the link Bill provided.
 
Jun 12, 2004
1,181
Allied Mistress 39 Ketch Kemah,Tx.
Ross !!!

Although I may still go with Peggy and the others idea of Ronco, I'm still leaning toward building my own for obvious reasons like tight fit means greater capacity. My questions are: 1). Do I need to use any type of inner lining such as a coat of epoxy or some kind of paint for odor reduction/elimination or is the glass/polyester all i need? 2). When you glassed in the PVC. did you use any kind of flanges on both sides of the 'wall' for strength. By the way, I love the idea of a inlet/outlet pipe. Does anyone do that commercially or is that a Ross Original? Also thanks to Peggy and everyone else. This project is about 6 months in the future so I have plenty of time to think about it. If I should find myself short on time, I have no problem using a bladder tank as I have used them before. Thanks Tony B
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Tonyb, Bietzpadlin has deep,slack bilges

so I built to fit in the space beneath the floors. I made the shape of the tank of mill finish aluminum flashing. The ends were shaped around 3/4 inch plywood cut to fit the profile of the bilge at the station that would be each end. Just hammered flanges on the cut blanks for the ends and discarded the plywood. Then I riveted the sides and top and bottom to the ends and glassed it with about four layers of chopped strand mat, ground out all the bubbles and patched the holes. Then I cut the holes for the pipes with a hole saw. The inlet pipe is cut at an angle on the end so that if it were a solid it would form a blunt wedge, the flats look at the sides of the tank. That pipe starts at the forward top of the end and touches the bottom aft end. The vent pipe follws the same angle but only enters the tank by about an inch. NO flanges. CSM is wonderful stuff because when you wet it out the fibers will slide over themselves and let you coax the stuff into any shape you want. about 4-5 layers of mats pushed into place with a chip brush and packed with a roller and I had a tank. I let it cure completely, ground off the meathooks and filled it with water to check for leaks and volume. For connections I just glued on the adapters for threaded hose barbs and I had a tank.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Peggy, The aluminum is exposed to the contents of

the tank. The aluminum is sacrificial and as it corrodes away will be pumped out with the rest of the contents. This will be the 8th year in service. since it is not disturbed mechanically it will not spall off in large pieces and block the flow.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
Tonyb

On my previous Pearson 28 I built a custom model for a holding tank and then had a firm in RI build it up out of 3/8 in material. Just like ronco tanks but my shape for about $200. 18 gal in the space of a former 8 gallon square tank. See the link. BTW, Ronco made the oem tankin my E35 so I just bought a new one from them. Tim R.
 
Dec 2, 1997
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I'm more concerned about what will happen

to the material against the aluminum. Unless you've made it water impervious by putting some kind of coating between it and the fiberglass, the walls of tank are at risk of getting very soggy and rotten.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Peggy, polyester resin is used to make portapotties

and construction site portable toilets. I can purchase polyester/fiber glass septic tanks from my local plumbing supply house. The polyester in the lines on our boats has the same chemical characteristics as the polyester used to make thermosetting resin, In the case of the resin the polyester resin is dissolved in styrene monomer. edited for punctuation.
 
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