hinged mast step
- Thread starter Nathan Wagner
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I don?t have a hinged mast. But I didn?t like the wired coming through the
hole in the mast step and into the cabin either. So when I have my new mast
built we exited the wiring from the starboard side of the mast, 18 inches or
so off the deck (using a grommet of course). Then I found that Selden has a
wonderful gooseneck fitting that bolts to the deck and rises about a foot or
so high and then makes a 180 turn down. The wires come out of the mast, dip
down and they go up into the gooseneck. This is how Hallberg- Rassy runs
their wiring since they are a deck-stepped mast. Next time you are walking
around the marina look at one of the newer Frers designed Rassys and you?ll
see one of the fittings. By the way, they cost a bit, about $90 in the
states.
Originally I was going to fabricate a similar fitting out of plastic
plumbing pipe, but the Selden gooseneck was just too attractive to pass up.
My rigger calls it ?boat jewelry.?
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hole in the mast step and into the cabin either. So when I have my new mast
built we exited the wiring from the starboard side of the mast, 18 inches or
so off the deck (using a grommet of course). Then I found that Selden has a
wonderful gooseneck fitting that bolts to the deck and rises about a foot or
so high and then makes a 180 turn down. The wires come out of the mast, dip
down and they go up into the gooseneck. This is how Hallberg- Rassy runs
their wiring since they are a deck-stepped mast. Next time you are walking
around the marina look at one of the newer Frers designed Rassys and you?ll
see one of the fittings. By the way, they cost a bit, about $90 in the
states.
Originally I was going to fabricate a similar fitting out of plastic
plumbing pipe, but the Selden gooseneck was just too attractive to pass up.
My rigger calls it ?boat jewelry.?
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Of Nathan Wagner
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Note to self: Next time the mast is down, take photos of the mast
step and tabernacle.
The tabernacle/step is a hinge with two roughly square plates each
about 3/16" thick. Both pieces have a round hole matching the "Vent"
hole in the coach roof. The top piece has a flange that matches the
shape of the mast which fits tightly over it and is secured with eight
machine screws threaded into the flange. There is also a drain hole
to let water out (Of dubious effectiveness).the bottom plate of the
hinge is secured to the cabin top by four through-bolts, two fore and
two aft, countersunk into the plate and backed by SS plates inside the
cabin on either side of the beam. The wires have connectors just
inside the cabin behind the cover piece forward of the mast support
beam. The mast can be lowered without disconnecting the wires.
Disconnect the wires if the mast is to be removed from the boat.
On my boat there is no pipe rising above the level of the coach roof.
I hope this helps and I promise, next time I get the chance I will
take pictures. d;^)
Aloha,
Chuck Rose
SV Lealea, V1860
Honolulu (Friday Harbor, WA)
step and tabernacle.
The tabernacle/step is a hinge with two roughly square plates each
about 3/16" thick. Both pieces have a round hole matching the "Vent"
hole in the coach roof. The top piece has a flange that matches the
shape of the mast which fits tightly over it and is secured with eight
machine screws threaded into the flange. There is also a drain hole
to let water out (Of dubious effectiveness).the bottom plate of the
hinge is secured to the cabin top by four through-bolts, two fore and
two aft, countersunk into the plate and backed by SS plates inside the
cabin on either side of the beam. The wires have connectors just
inside the cabin behind the cover piece forward of the mast support
beam. The mast can be lowered without disconnecting the wires.
Disconnect the wires if the mast is to be removed from the boat.
On my boat there is no pipe rising above the level of the coach roof.
I hope this helps and I promise, next time I get the chance I will
take pictures. d;^)
Aloha,
Chuck Rose
SV Lealea, V1860
Honolulu (Friday Harbor, WA)
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Chuck,
After what you guys have been through I hope that's a good long time
away!
Peter
#1331 "sin Tacha'
After what you guys have been through I hope that's a good long time
away!
Peter
#1331 "sin Tacha'
Hi Chuck
Your tabernacle sounds like a project I have been discussing with
Steve B. In the photos you used to illustrate the article on lowering
the mast I assumed your tabernacle comprised two shallow boxes, one
fitting over the other, but from your description it is just two flat
plates.
I have asked Steve if he can make a tabernacle for me in 316 s/s
comprising two flat plates, angled up at the forward end like yours to
a substantial hinge and using two vertical tabs at the aft end to
locate the top plate. I envisage the bottom plate being secured to the
deckhead with machine screws plus backing plates and the top plate
having a flange welded on for locating the mast much the same as the
original static plate. A 'vent' hole in both plates would allow the
cables to pass through and a rubber gasket between the two plates
should stop water coming into the cabin. The two vertical rear
locating tabs will be drilled to allow attachment of blocks etc.
Because it comprises 2 flat plates the mast should only be raised
about 1315mm (1/2"5/8")
I am presently waiting to remove the mast (by crane! - hopefully the
last time)so I can work on it this winter but it is raining cats and
dogs here so I don't have any measurements. If you could take some
close up photos (with the mast in place of course)and take some
measurements it might help to get this project off the ground. Would
anyone else be interested in having one made by Steve if we go ahead?
David
'Little Star' V1696
Your tabernacle sounds like a project I have been discussing with
Steve B. In the photos you used to illustrate the article on lowering
the mast I assumed your tabernacle comprised two shallow boxes, one
fitting over the other, but from your description it is just two flat
plates.
I have asked Steve if he can make a tabernacle for me in 316 s/s
comprising two flat plates, angled up at the forward end like yours to
a substantial hinge and using two vertical tabs at the aft end to
locate the top plate. I envisage the bottom plate being secured to the
deckhead with machine screws plus backing plates and the top plate
having a flange welded on for locating the mast much the same as the
original static plate. A 'vent' hole in both plates would allow the
cables to pass through and a rubber gasket between the two plates
should stop water coming into the cabin. The two vertical rear
locating tabs will be drilled to allow attachment of blocks etc.
Because it comprises 2 flat plates the mast should only be raised
about 1315mm (1/2"5/8")
I am presently waiting to remove the mast (by crane! - hopefully the
last time)so I can work on it this winter but it is raining cats and
dogs here so I don't have any measurements. If you could take some
close up photos (with the mast in place of course)and take some
measurements it might help to get this project off the ground. Would
anyone else be interested in having one made by Steve if we go ahead?
David
'Little Star' V1696
Ha! Me too Peter. But it's easy enough to do that I may demonstrate
at the Rendezvous just so I can get a good video of the process (And
get some photos of the tabernacle) d;^)
Chuck Rose
SV Lealea, V1860
at the Rendezvous just so I can get a good video of the process (And
get some photos of the tabernacle) d;^)
Chuck Rose
SV Lealea, V1860
Aloha David,
Through the marvel of modern electronics it was a simple matter to pop
outside, take a couple of photos and upload them directly from the
hard drive on my camera to the "Miscellaneous" folder in the photos
section. Amazing, the things that are now possible at the dawn of the
21st century. (Scary, ain't it)
Malie ke kai,
Chuck
Through the marvel of modern electronics it was a simple matter to pop
outside, take a couple of photos and upload them directly from the
hard drive on my camera to the "Miscellaneous" folder in the photos
section. Amazing, the things that are now possible at the dawn of the
21st century. (Scary, ain't it)
Malie ke kai,
Chuck
Chuck,
I like your mast step very much, and now you've got me thinking. . .
Seems I can't stop adding projects ;-)
Craig
I like your mast step very much, and now you've got me thinking. . .
Seems I can't stop adding projects ;-)
Craig
Speaking of the Rendezvous...Any ideas on a location so us poor
working stiffs can plan our vacations?
Brian
working stiffs can plan our vacations?
Brian
Aloha Chuck
Perfect - I can see now why I thought yours was made of two shallow
boxes as you appear to have a spacer that must be covering the 'pipe'
sticking up from the coachroof. Can you give me outer edge
measurements of the two plates and the bolt size used for the hinge -
these would be useful to get me started.
Cheers
David
V1696 'Little Star' in not-so-sunny Cyprus (Actually it's snowing here
today!)
Perfect - I can see now why I thought yours was made of two shallow
boxes as you appear to have a spacer that must be covering the 'pipe'
sticking up from the coachroof. Can you give me outer edge
measurements of the two plates and the bolt size used for the hinge -
these would be useful to get me started.
Cheers
David
V1696 'Little Star' in not-so-sunny Cyprus (Actually it's snowing here
today!)
Actually, there is no pipe. I forgot to mention that the spacer,
which is 1 1/2 inch delrin, was added ten years ago when we were
forced to cut off the bottom of the mast due to corrosion. I'll get
the measurements later today.
Malama pono,
Chuck
which is 1 1/2 inch delrin, was added ten years ago when we were
forced to cut off the bottom of the mast due to corrosion. I'll get
the measurements later today.
Malama pono,
Chuck
This may sound like a crazy question, but I've read about keels breaking off of other boats.
I know the Vega has an encapsulated balast weight in the keel, iron and sand if I remember correctly.
Has a keel ever broken off of a Vega?
Has anyone ever experienced structural cracks in their keel?
Thanks,
Roy
I know the Vega has an encapsulated balast weight in the keel, iron and sand if I remember correctly.
Has a keel ever broken off of a Vega?
Has anyone ever experienced structural cracks in their keel?
Thanks,
Roy
As one who has put the Vega keel to ridiculous stresses I think I can
say it's strong, VERY strong. Worry about something else ... you know
global warming, that sort of thing.
George Towler "Vista" 1043
say it's strong, VERY strong. Worry about something else ... you know
global warming, that sort of thing.
George Towler "Vista" 1043
But it is unfortunately not beer which may drip out when there is a
crack into the iron keel.
It is water and rust. I have been on too many rocks, sharp and smooth,
sideways and
bammmm on since 1973. Sofar only local denting and scratching, easy to
patch up. Stress
from strong impacts is nicely spread up in the hull. I have got
increasing 1/4" screw holes
from loosening plywood and found cracks between hull and motor bed.
All sorted out
by rejoining with grp. Keel must be multiples stronger than any bolted
on design, not to
speak of the additional strength thanks to the long shape.
Arne Charlotta 239
Steve Birch wrote:
crack into the iron keel.
It is water and rust. I have been on too many rocks, sharp and smooth,
sideways and
bammmm on since 1973. Sofar only local denting and scratching, easy to
patch up. Stress
from strong impacts is nicely spread up in the hull. I have got
increasing 1/4" screw holes
from loosening plywood and found cracks between hull and motor bed.
All sorted out
by rejoining with grp. Keel must be multiples stronger than any bolted
on design, not to
speak of the additional strength thanks to the long shape.
Arne Charlotta 239
Steve Birch wrote:
I see you guys are getting to know me better. LOL.
So I will take it that none of the Vegas has ever had a problem..
Beer prices is one thing that I can't worry about. Just buy it.
Thanks,
Roy
Steve Birch steve@... wrote:
or the rising cost of beer........
So I will take it that none of the Vegas has ever had a problem..
Beer prices is one thing that I can't worry about. Just buy it.
Thanks,
Roy
Steve Birch steve@... wrote:
or the rising cost of beer........
As I recall, the original Vega Owners Manual suggests that the Vega
Keel is strong enough to withstand grounding on rocks at full
speed. John Neal in his book "Log of the Mahina" tells of grounding
his Vega several times on coral rocks at speed with little or no
damage. I have however heard of keel damage in the rear section of
the keel where there is no ballast, but a void. My keel had a
lengthwise split in that area that I had to repair last year. Just
my input.
Larry Bissell
"Kemanalea" hull 1493
San Francisco Bay area
Keel is strong enough to withstand grounding on rocks at full
speed. John Neal in his book "Log of the Mahina" tells of grounding
his Vega several times on coral rocks at speed with little or no
damage. I have however heard of keel damage in the rear section of
the keel where there is no ballast, but a void. My keel had a
lengthwise split in that area that I had to repair last year. Just
my input.
Larry Bissell
"Kemanalea" hull 1493
San Francisco Bay area
groundhog groundhogyh@... wrote: I see you guys are getting to know me better. LOL.
So I will take it that none of the Vegas has ever had a problem..
Beer prices is one thing that I can't worry about. Just buy it. You've obviously never been to Sweden !!! ha ha
Thanks,
RoySteve Birch steve@... wrote:
or the rising cost of beer........
So I will take it that none of the Vegas has ever had a problem..
Beer prices is one thing that I can't worry about. Just buy it. You've obviously never been to Sweden !!! ha ha
Thanks,
RoySteve Birch steve@... wrote:
or the rising cost of beer........