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bundchen1263

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Sep 5, 2016
89
Hi. Just bought my dream boat hull 2693. I have been on road past few days trailering her from Colorado to Ny. It was a huge and expensive task but the seller was very honest and helpful which made the whole event stress free. It needs some work, the whole interior needs to be sanded and varnished. Missing head and the stove. Electrical work, wires etc looks little messy I may end up running new wires for lot of stuff. I am still going through her trying to figure out if any major component is missing to prevent me from splashing her next spring. We soon starting to renovate her . serious cleaning first, then sanding, varnishing, painting. Some interiorwoodwork may be replaced. Has at least two layers of bottom paint that needs to be scrapped and repainted. There is some sort of paint job on the mast and it looks terrible. Brown and black paint going back to few more previous owner I believe. Other than that it looks solid and most likely it will look awesome once we finished the work. I will need thelp from other owners to identify what goes where and how things work. Before that I own venture 17 and Catalina 22. This is the ,most complex boat I have ever owned so bear with me please. Thanks in advance
 
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sailshiva

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Jun 6, 2007
132
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half as much fun as simply messing around in boats. (Kenneth Graham)Sent from my iPad
 
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dougpol1

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Feb 13, 2010
528
Congratulations!!! I just bought my first sailboat, #1625, a few months ago. I'm really interested in trailing the boat, and interested in how you managed the mast, and with all the shrouds and stays, is it difficult to get the mast square when you raise her back up. Congratulations, and like to hear how your trip worked out, and your progress. My boat's head and oven, and inboard engine have been taken out. The only advice I can think of, is when you replace any lights, use the low wattage LED's???
 
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imbissfrank

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Mar 28, 2011
261
Welcome aboard Bundchen ! MSG Frank Gallardo Jr.
Casualty Assistance Volunteer
Berlin Military Retiree Council
U.S. Army Special Forces Retired From: "bundchen1263@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: [AlbinVega] hi. new owner here




Hi. Just bought my dream boat hull 2693. I have been on road past few days trailering her from Colorado to Ny. It was a huge and expensive task but the seller was very honest and helpful which made the whole event stress free. It needs some work, the whole interior needs to be sanded and varnished. Missing head and the stove. Electrical work, wires etc looks little messy I may end up running new wires for lot of stuff. I am still going through her trying to figure out if any major component is missing to prevent me from splashing her next spring. We soon starting to renovate her . serious cleaning first, then sanding, varnishing, painting. Some interiorwoodwork may be replaced. Has at least two layers of bottom paint that needs to be scrapped and repainted. There is some sort of paint job on the mast and it looks terrible. Brown and black paint going back to few more previous owner I believe. Other than that it looks solid and most likely it will look awesome once we finished the work. I will need thelp from other owners to identify what goes where and how things work. Before that I own venture 17 and Catalina 22. This is the ,most complex boat I have ever owned so bear with me please. Thanks in advance






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mphalv

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Sep 29, 2001
195
Welcome--I think you will enjoy your Vega! We are your neighbors to the east, near Bangor, Maine, and sail our boat, Double Fantasy, mostly on Penobscot Bay. We've owned her since 1984. Where are you in NY? We often travel to the Buffalo area to visit family there, while on the way to/from St. Louis. Oh, by the way, we started sailing on a 12-foot Barnett Butterfly, and then graduated to a Venture 17! We trailered it to the North Channel of Lake Huron and after that found we were bored with just sailing around an Army Corp of Engineers lake. Thus the move to the coast of Maine and a bigger boat, our Vega #1826.



Good luck with your renovations!



Melanie and Paul Halvachs

V1826 Double Fantasy

Holden, Maine
 
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alaskaflyfish

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Oct 15, 2015
206
Congratulations. I bought 1707 a year ago and have been updating since. It was more work than I anticipated but nothing difficult. The interior was the largest amount of work since mold was everywhere. I totally remade the entire inside except for the two main bulkheads and replaced everything with new. I did one section at a time to keep the boat in semi operational condition. Winter is not the ideal time for varnishing wood here in Alaska. It was time consuming, but the results were a nice fresh smelling cabin with wood that has been sealed. Also rewired the entire boat and installed LED lights everywhere. The bottom and topsides have a fresh coat of paint and everything looks sharp and new. My boat is also on a trailer so working from home made things easier. Installing a mast hinge to facilitate lowering the mast will be a benefit in the future. Make a list of "needs" and "wants" and assign a value of priority to them. This will help greatly with mitigation of cost and mistakes.
 
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groundhogyh

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May 30, 2006
1,075
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Il 05/Set/2016 16:20, "bundchen1263@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com ha scritto:
 
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tim_klynn

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Feb 12, 2008
337
Some years ago, I bought my Vega in NY and trailered it to CO.It is funny how these boats seem to migrate around the country. Tim
 
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sailshiva

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Jun 6, 2007
132
We owned 1707 for 21 years and loved her dearly, congrats on the updates, she's a good old boat. If it's the same trailer, I built it, scrounged the steel from disused power pylons and the axles from under a mobile home. Good luck with her, HowardSent from my iPad
 
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alaskaflyfish

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Oct 15, 2015
206
Hi Howard, still the same trailer that you made. It works good. I have another 3 axle trailer that I will retrofit after I launch the boat this Oct. I got more work into the boat than I initially intended. Every time I removed something I realized I had to go deeper. It has new standing rigging and a mast hinge among many things. I had to weld repair the mast head box due to corrosion between the toggle flanges. It currently has 3 flanges instead of two to reinforce the toggles. The upper stay thru bolt corroded and needed riveted reinforcement plates to strengthen the area. Good thing I'm and aircraft mechanic and know how to repair aluminum spars on aircraft. That knowledge helped immensely facilitating repairs. Its in nice shape now. I do have a couple of questions. There was a T track on the fore deck running fore and aft. I removed it cause I didn't know what its purpose was, any Ideas? Also, the boom looked like it had some type of jiffy reefing device installed since it has cheek blocks and fair-leads and cleats attached. Any idea on what manufacture that reefing was? From: "Howard Barbour sailshiva@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: hi. new owner here




We owned 1707 for 21 years and loved her dearly, congrats on the updates, she's a good old boat. If it's the same trailer, I built it, scrounged the steel from disused power pylons and the axles from under a mobile home. Good luck with her, HowardSent from my iPadOn Sep 5, 2016, at 1:45 PM, alaskaflyfish@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
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bundchen1263

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Sep 5, 2016
89
Hi. I have trailered 17 and 22 foot boats before. Here is what I would suggest.Make sure the trailer is in good shape. Solid weldings, wooden banks(if equipped), tires, wheels etc, all common sense.Tow vehicle in good shape, heavier than the boat n trailer. Much heavier the better. You are in good shape, well rested, mentally and physically ready. With all that being said, the easiest way to carry the mast is laying it flat on cabin top, well supported with few blankets to dissipate the effect of bouncing. U can also create some sort of rack to keep it off the cabin top. The goal is to prevent it from shifting in any direction. Use lots of ratchet type tie downs but don't crank them a lot. Using many different angles and attachment points, the mast won't go anywhere. Buy bunch of bungee cords with round plastic balls. I don't know the name but they work great securing all the shrouds etc. Gather all the wires, shrouds and run me down the mast while wrapping them with bungee every 5 or so feet. Don't loose any turnbuckles sometimes they vibrate out if not secured. I be used few bungee. Secure the boat to trailer. 2 very heavy ratched front n back and at least 4 more on each side. U can go with less depending on your trailers configuration. Mine has wood banks and they were old. Close and secure the hatch, anything loose etc. Plan your route and the timing. Avoid big cities at rush hours. U can easily cover 6hundred miles a day .Lots of quick , junk food. Iwas hitting the road at 5.45 am latest. Must take a break every few hours let the tires and bearings cool down. Check them all during the break how hot they get, check your straps etc. ImPORTANT NOTE If your gel cote is in good shape and u wanna protect it, you have to place some soft material between the straps and the hull. It can be felt or fleece purchased from Walmart . give few wraps to the strap and make sure it wont fly away. Don't ask me how do I know that. The gel coat gets damaged easily. Just cosmetic nothing major but little bit of time beforehand will avoid future headache. Rest is your driving. Leave PLENTY OF SPACE between you and the vehicle ahead of u. If an emergency happens and you slam your brake, most likely things will go out of control. See far ahead and start slowing. Avoid changing lane if possible. Hug the right lane go slow and steady if u prefer. Good luck its very easy. After few hours and all systems are good, u will love being on the road. I did.
 
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bundchen1263

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Sep 5, 2016
89
Hi. I m in Hudson river. Little city called beacon. Venture 17 was a Spartans boat for her size. I don't think I all miss her though
 
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bundchen1263

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Sep 5, 2016
89
Great advise. Today I grabbed a storm sail for hundred dollar which came off of a vega. Is easy to go overboard. My approach is that I try to reuse everything. Cleaning, greasing...take it apart put it back together... Its amazing what little attention can fix.
 
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bundchen1263

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Sep 5, 2016
89
They hard to find you have ta hit the road if necessary. I believe no one becomes a vega owner by accident. They research and find one after a long hunt.
 
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pelagicasd

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Jan 28, 2001
694
The unwritten rule of the road for boats is Tonnage Rules! A 13 foot daysailor may have the right of way over an 800 foot container ship but will lose in a confrontation.
I had to trailer Lyric through Los Angeles. Rudest drivers in the world. Everybody jockeying for position in horrible traffic. Do you think anybody would let me change lanes when I had an exit coming up! No way, it might cost them 10 seconds of time on their
commute. Then I remembered, Tonnage rules! Crew cab Ford F350 with a 27 foot sailboat coming into their lane is very imposing. They will get out of the way! WaltFrom: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com on behalf of bundchen1263@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 4:49 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] hi. new owner here



Hi. I have trailered 17 and 22 foot boats before. Here is what I would suggest.
Make sure the trailer is in good shape. Solid weldings, wooden banks(if equipped), tires, wheels etc, all common sense.
Tow vehicle in good shape, heavier than the boat n trailer. Much heavier the better.
You are in good shape, well rested, mentally and physically ready.
With all that being said, the easiest way to carry the mast is laying it flat on cabin top, well supported with few blankets to dissipate the effect of bouncing. U can also create some sort of rack to keep it off the cabin top.
The goal is to prevent it from shifting in any direction. Use lots of ratchet type tie downs but don't crank them a lot. Using many different angles and attachment points, the mast won't go anywhere.
Buy bunch of bungee cords with round plastic balls. I don't know the name but they work great securing all the shrouds etc. Gather all the wires, shrouds and run me down the mast while wrapping them with bungee every 5 or so feet. Don't loose any turnbuckles
sometimes they vibrate out if not secured. I be used few bungee.
Secure the boat to trailer. 2 very heavy ratched front n back and at least 4 more on each side. U can go with less depending on your trailers configuration. Mine has wood banks and they were old. Close and secure the hatch, anything loose etc.
Plan your route and the timing. Avoid big cities at rush hours. U can easily cover 6hundred miles a day .Lots of quick , junk food. Iwas hitting the road at 5.45 am latest.
Must take a break every few hours let the tires and bearings cool down. Check them all during the break how hot they get, check your straps etc.
ImPORTANT NOTE
If your gel cote is in good shape and u wanna protect it, you have to place some soft material between the straps and the hull. It can be felt or fleece purchased from Walmart . give few wraps to the strap and make sure it wont fly away. Don't ask me how
do I know that. The gel coat gets damaged easily. Just cosmetic nothing major but little bit of time beforehand will avoid future headache.
Rest is your driving.
Leave PLENTY OF SPACE between you and the vehicle ahead of u. If an emergency happens and you slam your brake, most likely things will go out of control. See far ahead and start slowing. Avoid changing lane if possible. Hug the right lane go slow and
steady if u prefer. Good luck its very easy. After few hours and all systems are good, u will love being on the road. I did.
 
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vega1860

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Apr 28, 2000
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Welcome to the group. Someone here can answer what ever questions you may have about the Vega and there is a vast store of knowledge and experience here and at the various web sites devoted to this fine little boat.Fair winds,Chuck RoseSV Lealea, V1860http://cruisinglealea.com
 
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dougpol1

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Feb 13, 2010
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I learned to drive in Baltimore and the way ii's done there is to
stick your head out the window lean on the horn an curse the guy
next to you out thoroughly, Now you have his attention, so you
start moving over, he will make room if he doesn't then you hit
him. Doug


On 09/06/2016 10:46 AM, walt judy brown
allore bestvega@... [AlbinVega] wrote:
 
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sailshiva

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Jun 6, 2007
132
Hi Tim, The owner before me, set her up as a cutter, the T slide was to attach the stay for that, I never used it. There was a staysail stay and a small staysail on the boat when I parted with it.That vintage of Vega had roller boom reefing originally, but by the time I got it the main had slab reefing and the roller mechanism was seized up. Someone else must have fitted jiffy reefing, it did have a boom length bungy, with hooks on the other side to secure the sail when furled.Shiva ( is that still her name ?) was a very dry boat, but you must have some sort of heating arrangement to keep her dry in the winter, especially in S.E.Alaska.I sailed her on the Columbia river at Hood River and then in the San Juan Islands and never had a problem with mould.Glad to hear that she's in good hands, Cheers, HowardSent from my iPad
 
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