Here's my excuse

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May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
As some of you already know, I seriously ran aground by Port St. Joe last week, and in the process screwed up the rudder. Boat is still sailable, but hard to control, and the wake looks like a snake. But did manage to get back to Slidell, and will pull it soon as I get some other business taken care of, and find out what I tore up. I do feel rather stupid but I do have something of an excuse, so am going to use it. :) Here is how it all took place. Was heading to Pensacola from Tampa. Nice run for the first 36 hours, then things started coming apart. Had a pretty good weather report when leaving Tampa on a Thursday morning, and good weather for a while. Of course am far enough offshore that I can't get much untill start closing with land again. Sat. morning about 4AM, have the weather on, and they start talking about this front coming. Then they are saying that there are some thunderstorms and some super cells coming, with possible 80mph winds, and tornadoes in it. ( This is the same front that spawned the tornadoes in Mississippi.) Closest landfall is Port St. Joe and it is about 65 miles. The decision is pretty easy, and the new course it north. By first light the wind is up to 25 to 30, and building. So, it's just hang on and keep on going. Made the entrance to the bay at Port St. Joe a little before dark, and the wind is now blowing 35 to 40. As soon as I make the turn into the bay, it's dead on the nose, there is a 2 to 4 foot nasty chop in the bay, and the tide is running against me. Motoring, I can only make 2 to 3 knots. Now I am worried about running out of fuel. I'm pretty sure I have enough in the tank, but it is low, and the fear is that the boat is pitching so much, it will slosh around and suck a big gulp of air into the system. I have ten gallons on deck, but there is so much water coming over the decks, I am afraid that trying to add fuel will get me a big dose of water into the tank. About 7 miles into the bay, there is a channel that runs up to the ICW. As soon as you get into this channel is a bridge, and right behind the bridge is a small marina, that has a fuel dock. I know their closed, but don't care. If I can get in there, I'll just tie up and wait till morning. About 8PM I come to the channel entrance, and needless to say, by this time I am totally exhausted. This channel is dredged through some very shallow water, is narrow and not very well marked. There is only one lit bouy at the entrance to it, and the little cans and nuns are virtually invisible in the dark. As soon as I make the turn, the wind and waves will be dead on the beam. My thinking is to make the turn fairly far out, line up on the bridge and go on in. I pick up the red marker, make my turn, look up to line up on the bridge, and bam. The wind has me on the spoil bank. The wave action is picking up the boat and dropping it hard, and I cannot get myself off. Sea Tow to the rescue. Finally get pulled off, and get to a calm location and tied up. But can tell the rudder is damaged. Hard to steer the boat in anything that resembles a straight line. Have looked at it as best I can, and can see or feel no visible damage. What I'm thinking is that internally the rudder is loose on the post, and when you first turn the wheel, it has to take out the slack before anything happens. Will not know for sure till it comes out of the water. I really feel stupid as I have been through this little cut several times, both in and out. My excuse is just total exhaustion, and my mind was not working at it's normal speed. Counting Sea Tow, (1475.00), pulling the boat and doing whatever is needed to the rudder, is going to be an expensive experience.
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,204
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
No Excuse Needed...

....heck, I ran aground in the daylight leading a small flotilla of boats to 'show' them the anchorage layout. I did it on the 4th of July in front of crowds ashore and boaters. So, clearly, there is little contest on stupid; I won by a long shot. At least your aground has a good reason!
 
Sep 25, 2008
615
Morgan 415 Out Island Rogersville, AL
Don't be too hard on yourself--s*** happens. I hope the repair goes well.
 

Gary_H

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Nov 5, 2007
469
Cal 2-25 Carolina Beach NC
I can see how that can happen to any of us under those conditions. I take it that you didn't have towboat insurance.
 
Jan 26, 2008
60
Catalina 380 Long Beach, Ms
Ran aground

Phil, I think I know the area that your talking about in Port St. Joe and I can tell you that John ran aground in the day. Boat US tow insurance!
 
Jan 2, 2008
547
Hunter 33 (Cherubini design Forked River, Barnegat Bay, NJ
You just paid for about 13 years of Boat US unlimited townng insurance. I have had it for years and have never used it. Still worth every penny.

On Barnegat Bay it is never a question of if you will run aground, but when.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
ye shoulda seen the eyeballs on boatkat when we started pounding the surfline--his eyes went HUGE and he couldnt find a good enough place to hide----the event was definitely awakening....wouldnt have been so bad had the tow boat fella splained the pricing ahead of time--but he held back on the per foot fee until we were off the spoil bank an din the psj marina..
so...phillip is an excellent sailor--he went aground....is alllll goood--but we went from 228 ft water to water that was only 4-6 in deep in the troughs of the seas in the protected harbor--i think i like the deep water best..lol....we did have a wonderful dolphin escort for a long time on the way into the bay....is sad the rudder went kerplooey tho--was really hard to steer after that one....we did do a good job of breaking his boat this trip, tho! was a lot of fun! would repeat most of it--just donot want to repeat the grounding....
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
I treat TowBoat US much the way I treat my AAA membership... nice to have, pays for itself of a long time if you ever have to use it, hope never to need it, get some good discounts with it.

You just paid for about 13 years of Boat US unlimited townng insurance. I have had it for years and have never used it. Still worth every penny.

On Barnegat Bay it is never a question of if you will run aground, but when.
 
May 6, 2004
916
Hunter 37C Seattle
"My excuse is just total exhaustion, and my mind was not working at it's normal speed."

Nice, I'd say you nailed the cause, which given the string of events seems pretty unavoidable. Mere stress, such as worrying about fuel, just takes it out of you, not to mention constantly changing conditions, for the worse.
 
Jun 2, 2004
3,653
Hunter 23.5 Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
Port St Joe Marina

One of the nicest marinas around here and easy walking distance to Piggly Wiggly, Ace Hardware and several very good restraunts and hot showers to boot.. Don't think I'd have headed for the working boat marina in the Gulf County Canal but Monday morning quarterbacking is easy. Check out the Port St Joe Marina next time you are through there.
 
Jun 4, 2007
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Gulfstar 37 Noank, CT
check with your insurance company on the tow

My insurance covers towing. Check with them. I understand that many policies have it hidden in the coverage. I still carry Sea Tow because it is easier and I don't have to lay out the money for the tow and wait for reimbursement. -Arggh those lobster pots (twice last year)!
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Tow Insurance

Guess I need to carry both tow boats and sea tow. Have the wrong one. No Tow Boats within a reasonable distance of Port St.Joe, and was getting hammered to bad to wait. Russ, I talked to John yesterday, and he told me he had run aground in there in broad daylight. You really have to watch it, as the current can be pretty strong, and it just isn't very well marked. And I love Port St.Joe marina. Really nice place, and very friendly. Have been in there several times. Gonna be a while before I get the boat out and find how much I managed to tear up. Have to go to court next week, to lend moral support to a friend of mine, who got shot in the face a year ago. She is petrified to lay eyes on the guy. And I have to be in Dallas on the 29th for grand daughters graduation. Have been told I'm in it deep if I don't show. All in all really had a good trip, with the exception of the last few days.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
One of the nicest marinas around here and easy walking distance to Piggly Wiggly, Ace Hardware and several very good restraunts and hot showers to boot.. Don't think I'd have headed for the working boat marina in the Gulf County Canal but Monday morning quarterbacking is easy. Check out the Port St Joe Marina next time you are through there.
we love psj marina--ia nice friendly and has bicycles for reprovisioning!! they know us and welcome us each of the 6 times now we have been there----walking distance to piggly wiggly, goodwill, and the goodwill has awesome srtuff---london fog foulies! !LOL!! ahnd good books!!!
and ace hardware and subway---and LULU'S the sweet shop to die for!!!! loooove the place!! we also enjoy the docks we were trying to get to and the white city docks......
 

BobM

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Jun 10, 2004
3,269
S2 9.2A Winthrop, MA
I really don't see how you could have done anything different. You got the weather report before the @ss crack of dawn, made the correct call to high tail it to land and almost made it. The only thing you could have done differently is dump the 10 gallons of fuel in the tank immediately at 4am before things built up to maximize your range and to avoid having to worry in the dark. I think that is the only take home lesson I can get from the experience.

When we were bringing my boat up the coast I took advantage of the presence of a fuel dock even when I really didn't need it...just for a little insurance.
 
Jun 7, 2007
875
Pearson- 323- Mobile,Al
we ran up that entrance a few weeks ago in broad daylight and found the markings difficult and the channel twisty. I doubt that I would attempt it at night or under rough conditions. We actually ran aground there several years ago trying to find the entrance before it was dredged. we just bumped a little and then backed off but again it was daylight and the wind was calm.
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Don't forget that your anchor is an important piece of safety gear. Using it can often prevent a small problem from turning into a big one.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
anchor would not have done any good--we didnt have a reasonable way to kedge in the big winds and seas that night---once the inflatable would have been deployed, the operator thereof would have been 3 counties over..lol--remember the winds were 40 kts...is most unwise to deploy inflatables in that kind of wind..otherwise--yes is a good idea. yes they do assist in keeping one going along in correct direction--PROVIDING there is a reasonable method of deployment.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
I guess this is the best reason to have insurance. Between the two and the rudder replacement (if that is required) you would be looking at $5k or so. Much easier to pay for the insurance each year.

Sorry to hear about the problems, but this is one of those trips from hell that you not soon forget.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
is why gods made it more easy for some to do their own work than for others---some are able to repair things that break rather than merely replace at a higher price...is a lot easier to repair a known than replace with an unknown. i , for one, refuse to support a lobby that is one of the 3 largest lobbies in this nation and the primary cause of higher pricing in not only boat repair but also health care.

this trip may have been eventful, but it wasnt from hell. a trip from hell is one during which ye get put off th boat in the middle of no where or a trip during which ye decide the places visited are no tthe ones ye want to visit or that ye cannot under any circumstances get along with the person or persons with whom ye are travelling- or one in which nothing is learned-or a trip that never leaves the dock. ours was eventful but there was nothing from hell about it--was a lot of fun and was a good learning experience. if ye get nothing out of something, then is from hell....we had fun , we learned a lot and we sailed more than most folks sail in many years. we saw pods of dolphins and caught yummy fishies.we met really cool folks and had some divine oysters in appalachacola -- we had a really good time. is too bad it had to end this soon but it was not from HELL....we even go tto sail the gulf BEFORE the oil spill from hell.....we sailed thru lightning storms and didnt get hit by lightning---just sailed REALLLLLY FAST!!!!! and phillip got to prove how good a sailor he is!!!:eek:

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