Help !!!! Yanmar 2GM 18hp

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Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
2GM had a foam filter over the metal cone.

The Yanmar 2GM did have a foam filter over the metal cone. I understand this is more of a noise suppressor than a filter. The engine compartment on a sailboat is considered a relatively clean environment.
 
Dec 2, 2003
4,245
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Steve, normally that's true, but

in Franklin's case, no. He's from Texas, land of G W Bush pollution control.(AKA NONE!) His engine needs all the help it can get. Like a KN filter.
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,438
Oday 25 pittsburgh
Siggi, Whats'up?

Have you learned anything since your trip? Did you move the boat? I think we would all like to know what happened and what was the cure. Thanks, r.w.landau
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,931
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Fred, would moveon.org appreciate more ...

your political viewpoint? :) Terry
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
I tend to agree with Chris with the sticking

valve as a possibility. A sticking valve in a marine engine is usually caused by a pinhole water leak somewhere in the jacketed exhaust system .... usually the exhaust manifold. When the engine cools down the vacuum formed inside a cylinder with a valve open can suck water through the pinhole into the combustion chamber or down the valve stem of the partly opened exhaust valve .... thence to form rust. Usually a stuck valve will not allow an engine to start or will start with a very rough idle as one cylinder will not be 'firing'. The loud pfffffffff is the clue that the air is not continually flowing in the proper direction. this could happen if a valve is sticking open sometimes and sometimes not. Its usually an exhaust valve that gets stuck, your description/symptoms sounds more like an intake valve. Has this engine ever had a history of sucking exhaust water back into the engine? Boat ever sink? Is the top the exhaust loop 'well above' the waterline, even when the boat is heeled way over? ,,, some things to think about. If it were my engine, I'd open the valve access plate, turn the engine over with just the starter (compression release valve open) and visualize if the valves are working to their 'full' stroke and not sticking. There are some fairly easy remedies for stuck/sticking valves but the true remedy is finding the cause, not treating the symptoms. As regard that air filter, get a retrofit paper element filter. Even air far out at sea is LOADED with particulate ... to the tune of about 30,000 particles per cubic foot. If your old enough to remember the ill fated rescue attempt of the american hostages in Iran in the late 1970s - The mission had to be called off when several of the helicopters crashed .... they removed the air filters to save weight ... and the engines seized from sucking in atmospheric particulate. Put on the LARGEST pleated paper filter retro package you can find ... after you find the other problem. Good luck.
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,438
Oday 25 pittsburgh
You guys suck!

I have to say that your input here on boats is great but your political veiws .... Phil has made a place for that and yet you, FRED and TERRY continue to use this as your mouth piece. Fred you made comments about George "W" in your reply to Franklin in this thread already. Again I will fight your freedom in this matter because it does not exist here. If it does I will respond with my sarcastic veiws. I have said before that either we stand united on this forum, or divided this forum will fall. Is it boats or politics we are doing here? I know you guys think you know all about boats but I, as have many before me, are ready to let you on your own and your own advice. Many others like Justin Andre, Don Evans, Tom Ehmke and others may veiw this but I think they do not input because of the fight they must put up because of the policitcal/antireligious advice that they have to deal with. I miss the good sound advice of long time sailors that have done it and are doing it but avoid here because of the sarcastic crap they have to put up with. Sorry Siggi, what's up? r.w.landau
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
You're correct r.w ....

but dont stoop to their low level in defense. If we ignore them and keep strictly to boating topics the politically afflicted and unstable ideologs will move on to other and greener pastures for easier 'pickings'. Consider how one will remdiate or even have a sane debate with an obviously closed minded extremist. Some folks just want to troll to get a 'rise' or a reaction. Such people are just looking for a fight - and any fight will do. Just dont take the bait. Stay on the high road. If it gets too bad Phil will just ban or exclude their 'sign-ons' .... please consider to do so, Phil.
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,438
Oday 25 pittsburgh
RichH, You need to stand against them.

Rich, If they have the freedom to drop thier lines as they wish, then we have to fight their lines. I don't want to have to fight their lines! I have gotten in trouble here often, 95% of the time it is has been in defense. I am not going to lay down to thier tactics. I will listen to thier boat advice and weigh it as right or wrong. I will not abid by thier distorted political veiw. r.w.landau
 
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Geez you blokes are thin skinned bastards

Thank goodness I live downunder where our hides are as thick as a brick. Sorry folks but I couldn't find anything offensive with all of the posts in this particular thread. GET A LIFE, GET OVER IT. Politics???? Who gives a rats arse!
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,438
Oday 25 pittsburgh
Bob , your cheap comment

is exactly what I am talking about. Your comment was political. as was your Darwin address. Stick it , let talk sailing. r.w.landau
 
Jun 2, 2004
3,541
Hunter 23.5 Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
Trivia Correction for Rich H

It was a problem with the blade of one H-53 on the way in and a hydralic problem on another helo which prompted the recall. Actually it was a perceived problem due to a lack of familiarity of the Marine pilots with the Navy model of the helo flown. One of them landed on the way into "Desert One" another was grounded on arrival. It was in the process of getting out of "Desert One" that a 53 struck a C-130. There is an excellent book by the guy who helped set up the Operation and was the on scene commander at "Desert One" Col Jim Kyle, "The Guts to Try" he is a heck of a guy and it is great read. Oh and Siggib when you get your engine straight get a filter like he said.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
One of the issue which reduced the efficiency of

helos was the removal of the intake air filters. I worked on the remediation which led to more high efficiency equipment installed thereafter. Different viewpoints of the same incident.
 

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Sep 21, 2005
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other 12 wet water
We all mean well just opinionated thats all

Siggi, First let me apologize for all the bantering going on here. Some of us will actually help you try and solve your problems.At least we'll give you our thoughts on it. I'm not familiar with diesels ,but I'm learning . First you cant be scared of it and its just a mechanical thing . Hundreds of parts and hundreds of opinions. You make the call that suits you best.Hopefully here in this site you will get the best possible explanation for your problem. Its just tough to analize (sic) a mechanical problem using words .One must try to be as accurate as possible when describing a situtation.Your pfff to me sounds like a pfft. If you get my drift? Just one request. Please do keep us informed on the cause and remedy. Thanks.
 
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