Recently I purchased a 1986 Hunter 23. We got the mast up and all was great...then we began to install the boom. The booklet says it is a Kenyon model. Three questions: Do we install a rope from the top of the mast to support the boom? (There was an extra rope and we did not think about this until the mast was set all was tight!!) Will any mainsail bag from the order form here work? I do not know what is meant by Lazy Jack, etc. Finally, the cabin has evidently had water in it and the order is quite foul. How to clean carpet and eliminate order? Over the winter we will replace cracked plastic window and some bad seals. Thanks. DandridgeGuy
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Watch the boom
You need something to hold up the boom when the main sail is down. Thats what that rope would do and its a topping lift. If you don't have that then you may want to get a boomkicker. I plan on installing one on my 22 this winter. It elimenates the hastle of the the topping lift. Check Chandelry for price. The lazy jack system is used to help keep the main off of the deck when it is dropped. It is great when sailing solo. It also holds the boom but I don't use it in place of the boomkicker or topping lift. Ropes & Wires go from the mast to the boom diagonally and keep the sail on the boom. I like mine. although sometimes gets in the way when raising the main. See WestMarine for info on lazy jacks
You need something to hold up the boom when the main sail is down. Thats what that rope would do and its a topping lift. If you don't have that then you may want to get a boomkicker. I plan on installing one on my 22 this winter. It elimenates the hastle of the the topping lift. Check Chandelry for price. The lazy jack system is used to help keep the main off of the deck when it is dropped. It is great when sailing solo. It also holds the boom but I don't use it in place of the boomkicker or topping lift. Ropes & Wires go from the mast to the boom diagonally and keep the sail on the boom. I like mine. although sometimes gets in the way when raising the main. See WestMarine for info on lazy jacks
Bite the bullet
and drop the mast to connect the topping lift. I'm sure that's not what you want to hear, but it sounds like you're going to be spending quite a bit to fix up your boat and you may want to use the $150 you'd spend on a boom kicker for something else. I have a topping lift on my h23 and find it no hassle at all. You just need to remember to release when you go sailing and lock it before you drop the main. I know nothing about boomkickers, but I'm wondering, do you need a boom vang to go with it, or can the upward pressure be overcome (to a cruiser's satisfaction) by the mainsheet? Might be even more expense you may want to save for later. Just my 2 cents. No offense intended for assuming you don't have an unlimited budget. Mac
and drop the mast to connect the topping lift. I'm sure that's not what you want to hear, but it sounds like you're going to be spending quite a bit to fix up your boat and you may want to use the $150 you'd spend on a boom kicker for something else. I have a topping lift on my h23 and find it no hassle at all. You just need to remember to release when you go sailing and lock it before you drop the main. I know nothing about boomkickers, but I'm wondering, do you need a boom vang to go with it, or can the upward pressure be overcome (to a cruiser's satisfaction) by the mainsheet? Might be even more expense you may want to save for later. Just my 2 cents. No offense intended for assuming you don't have an unlimited budget. Mac
another thought
Short of dropping the mast, you can also tie a line around the split backstay and use it to support the boom when the main is dropped. You need to be heading upwind with the boom amidships when you drop or raise the main anyway. Works for me and I even have a boomkicker. Love it, by the way, but I still hook the boom for added support when in dock so the boom doesn't bounce around.
Short of dropping the mast, you can also tie a line around the split backstay and use it to support the boom when the main is dropped. You need to be heading upwind with the boom amidships when you drop or raise the main anyway. Works for me and I even have a boomkicker. Love it, by the way, but I still hook the boom for added support when in dock so the boom doesn't bounce around.
kenyon spar has spositions for 3 lines
my spar has positions to run 3 lines through it. outhaul, reef, and either a toping lift or a second reef i guess. (someone correct me here if i'm wrong about the 3rd position). i'm undecieded if i want to run a toping reef through the boom or a second reef line for next season. (if i need a second reef i probably shouldn't be out there!). anyway, i belayed a line from the top of my mast with a snap ring on the bitter end and just a short one belayed to the end of the boom. while in port, (and before i dropped the sail), i hooked these 2 together to hold the mast up. i had quick links on both and hooked the one from the top of the mast to the backstay while under sail so it wouldn't get "lost". would still have to do a variation of the same thing, (2 snap rings), to be able to remove the boom if i deciede to run a toping lift line through the boom next year but wouldn't be required to belay off to the back stay after installing the boom. just connect the lines after the boom was installed. sounds like you have a "project" h23 on your hands. i do too but i'm about a year into mine. there's another guy with a website where he is documenting all the work he's doing on his h23. i have a link somewhere. we should all hook-up and compare notes. (not just a plathora of people crazy enough to restore an h23
). if you want, e mail me at: williamrd@attglobal.net and we can trade notes and i'll try to find the other link. regards~ william btw; as to your origional question....looks like the mast has to be dropped to attach your toping lift.
my spar has positions to run 3 lines through it. outhaul, reef, and either a toping lift or a second reef i guess. (someone correct me here if i'm wrong about the 3rd position). i'm undecieded if i want to run a toping reef through the boom or a second reef line for next season. (if i need a second reef i probably shouldn't be out there!). anyway, i belayed a line from the top of my mast with a snap ring on the bitter end and just a short one belayed to the end of the boom. while in port, (and before i dropped the sail), i hooked these 2 together to hold the mast up. i had quick links on both and hooked the one from the top of the mast to the backstay while under sail so it wouldn't get "lost". would still have to do a variation of the same thing, (2 snap rings), to be able to remove the boom if i deciede to run a toping lift line through the boom next year but wouldn't be required to belay off to the back stay after installing the boom. just connect the lines after the boom was installed. sounds like you have a "project" h23 on your hands. i do too but i'm about a year into mine. there's another guy with a website where he is documenting all the work he's doing on his h23. i have a link somewhere. we should all hook-up and compare notes. (not just a plathora of people crazy enough to restore an h23
). if you want, e mail me at: williamrd@attglobal.net and we can trade notes and i'll try to find the other link. regards~ william btw; as to your origional question....looks like the mast has to be dropped to attach your toping lift.Boom Rigging
William, You got it right. The three line positions in the Kenyon boom are for the topping lift, outhaul, and a jiffy reef line. Running the topping lift through the end of the boom is not terribly efficient for sailing but when it comes time to reef, it makes it very easy to reef (especially when short handed). You hoist the boom high with the topping lift, ease the halyard, hook the luff/foot of the sail on the reefing hook, tighten the jiffy reefing line, snug the halyard back up, and release the topping lift.
William, You got it right. The three line positions in the Kenyon boom are for the topping lift, outhaul, and a jiffy reef line. Running the topping lift through the end of the boom is not terribly efficient for sailing but when it comes time to reef, it makes it very easy to reef (especially when short handed). You hoist the boom high with the topping lift, ease the halyard, hook the luff/foot of the sail on the reefing hook, tighten the jiffy reefing line, snug the halyard back up, and release the topping lift.
Fabreeze for odors
Fabreeze works very well for eliminating odors. Clean the carpet and other fabrics, then use fabreeze per instructions on the bottle. Large bottles are available at Walmart for the best prices I have found -- look in the cleaning supplies and/or laundry department. Grocery stores carry it too, but more expensive. Fair winds, Tom
Fabreeze works very well for eliminating odors. Clean the carpet and other fabrics, then use fabreeze per instructions on the bottle. Large bottles are available at Walmart for the best prices I have found -- look in the cleaning supplies and/or laundry department. Grocery stores carry it too, but more expensive. Fair winds, Tom
Cleaning Carpte
I used an industrial upholstry cleaner to clean the interior carpet in my H23. It got rid of the light mildew stains and most of the stuffy oder that was due to all the previous water intrusion. The cleaner only had a sprayer and a vacuum with no mechanical action but it worked pretty well. I was not able to remove major stains that were caused by substantial top side leaks.
I used an industrial upholstry cleaner to clean the interior carpet in my H23. It got rid of the light mildew stains and most of the stuffy oder that was due to all the previous water intrusion. The cleaner only had a sprayer and a vacuum with no mechanical action but it worked pretty well. I was not able to remove major stains that were caused by substantial top side leaks.
trick with a topping lift
I agree with the answer that you have an outhaul, jiffy reef and topping lift. I do not agree that the topping lift gets in the way - provided you properly manage it. In most winds it just streams aft of the leech. If you let it go too far, it may hang up on your back stay, which is why you need to pay some attention to it. But it can be useful in light air, by taking some of the weight of the boom off the sail, allowing a fuller sail shape to take maximum advantage of that light wind. Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
I agree with the answer that you have an outhaul, jiffy reef and topping lift. I do not agree that the topping lift gets in the way - provided you properly manage it. In most winds it just streams aft of the leech. If you let it go too far, it may hang up on your back stay, which is why you need to pay some attention to it. But it can be useful in light air, by taking some of the weight of the boom off the sail, allowing a fuller sail shape to take maximum advantage of that light wind. Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
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