Help Rudder

Jul 18, 2014
55
Hi everybody.Talk with Arend about help rudder he installed on Vegas. Get some picture with installation, and comments from owners who installed help-rudder-all extremely satisfied. Now I would like to get more comments about help rudder installation. Anybody has arguments opposite help rudder? Or bed experience with. Understand it does not meet Vega One design Rules, but it looks if you install autopilot or replace tiller with steering wheel, or add truster making hole in vessel hull. Any comments please.Thank you.Tym
 
Jul 18, 2014
55
Hi everybody.With Arend Shram (from Netherlands) helps, details drawing for Help Rudder has been converted in to US standard, and ready for machine shop for custom order. More details and information anybody can find in Files folder - "extra rudder (behind propeller)". Over 70 Vega has been equipped with help rudder in Europe. You can see owners comments in Files folder (Help Rudder report). Thanks for Arend and his support now anybody can get information about help rudder for Vega. Also we can provide developed drawing or/and all detail with details photo and manual ready DIY.If somebody interested please let me know. Tym
 
Apr 2, 2013
283
Hi All,I just read over this Help Rudder. Everything I have read about increasing the surface , adds drag, which decreases speed? How can one drop an additional rudder in the water and performance improves? Maybe only turning? Why couldn’t one add a extension only at the prop wash zone high on the existing rudder and gain turning and little drag. I have been thinking of doing just this to make this existing rudder work like a normal rudder being behind the prop. Any thoughts?LarrySV-2761-Lilly TooSent from Windows MailFrom: n4lbl alan.schulman@... [AlbinVega]Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎October‎ ‎16‎, ‎2014 ‎7‎:‎19‎ ‎AMTo: n4lbl alan.schulman@... [AlbinVega]
 









Hi everybody.With Arend Shram (from Netherlands)  helps, details drawing for Help Rudder has been converted in to US standard, and ready for machine shop for custom order. More details and  information anybody can find in Files folder - "extra rudder (behind propeller)". Over 70 Vega has been equipped with help rudder in Europe. You can see owners comments in Files folder (Help Rudder report). Thanks for Arend and his support now anybody can get information about help rudder for Vega. Also we can provide developed drawing or/and all detail with details photo and  manual ready DIY.If somebody interested please let me know. Tym
 
Jan 31, 2009
122
Hi All – The help rudder adds to the waterline length and for a displacement boat greater underwater length gives greater speed potential. Since help rudders have been introduced we have had to introduce an extra racing class for modified Vegas at International Events as they certainly were faster than unmodified Vegas and of course turned faster.

Good sailing

Mike



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Sent: 18 October 2014 00:26
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
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Hi All,



I just read over this Help Rudder. Everything I have read about increasing the surface , adds drag, which decreases speed? How can one drop an additional rudder in the water and performance improves? Maybe only turning? Why couldn’t one add a extension only at the prop wash zone high on the existing rudder and gain turning and little drag. I have been thinking of doing just this to make this existing rudder work like a normal rudder being behind the prop. Any thoughts?



Larry

SV-2761-Lilly Too



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Hi everybody.

With Arend Shram (from Netherlands) helps, details drawing for Help Rudder has been converted in to US standard, and ready for machine shop for custom order. More details and information anybody can find in Files folder - "extra rudder (behind propeller)". Over 70 Vega has been equipped with help rudder in Europe. You can see owners comments in Files folder (Help Rudder report). Thanks for Arend and his support now anybody can get information about help rudder for Vega. Also we can provide developed drawing or/and all detail with details photo and manual ready DIY.

If somebody interested please let me know.

Tym
 
Apr 28, 2000
691
I would like to know what is the best wood to redo the seat cover (oak or maple) Sent from my iPhone
 
Jul 18, 2014
55
If you know how existing rudder build you can understand no way successfully extend existing rudder behind propeller. Yes Vega with help rudder does not meet VODA criteria.If you concern about Regatta In international regattas there were 3 classes –1 Vegas original equipped and sailing with - or using a Spinnaker – the Racing Class2.  idem                                  not sailing by Spinnaker – the Cruising Class      3 Vegas equipped with a Helprudder or other parts – has no classifications – the Touring ClassAlso for Regatta purposes you have two options: 1. Fix rudder in straight position and disconnect from main rudder (included in help-rudder equipment) 2. Drop of Help-Rudder before regatta, and install it back after.As additional benefit in emergency situation you can use help rudder for emergency purposes if something happened with main rudder. Please note if you extend main rudder you add the same drug to you boat, and your VEGA will not meet with VODA rules.  Tym  
 
Jan 31, 2009
122
I presume you mean the locker lids, I use teak faced marine ply at least 12mm thick and also veneer the exposed edges in teak. Using planks of natural wood is a problem as the wood tends to warp over time unless built on some sort of frame.

Mike



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Sent: 18 October 2014 21:08
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Help Rudder


I would like to know what is the best wood to redo the seat cover (oak or maple)

Sent from my iPhone
 
Jul 18, 2014
55
Mark.Please contact with Arend : acschram@.... He can help you with help-rudder DIY better than me. I work with him getting drawing. He has a lot of instructional photo, and he is very helpful parson.Tym On Monday, July 11, 2016 9:22 AM, "mark@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com wrote:




I 'm very interessed in having a help rudder at a vega. Tym can you pls upload a DIY plan how to build it. Thank you






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