Help! , Halyard-Less Roller Furling Jib?

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D. Menzies

OK, I'm an idiot! My 1985 28.5 has a Cruise Design(s)? Reef Spool thing brand roller furling jib (not a harken or well known brand). The boat has no "traditional" jib halyard. How the heck do I get the jib off for repair? There is a small cable attached to the head of the jib that either attaches to the first peice of furling track or runs an internal halyard back to the bow inside the furl track. Theres no visible way to release it.... Anyone else have one of these? I can only guess If I remove the furl track peices one at a time I could bring it down. Again, nothing goes to or inside the mast............This site has been a great resouce, I hope it will be again! D. Menzies Hunter 28.5 Kemah TX
 
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Jeff D

Probably a CDI product

I'm have not had personal experience with this furler but I suspect you just need to affix an extension to the internal halyard so when you pull the sail down you will not lose the halyard. It should be a strong enough connection to be able to withstand pulling the sail back up. The following link should be able to help.
 
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Andy Falls

Trigger trip

It may be the furler that has a locking mechanism at the top. The halyard is tied off down low somewhere. To untrip the lock you hook this gizmo device to the halyard (it has a messenger line I think)Hual it up and it trips the lock. Then the sail will pull down. To haul it back up, you attach attach the gizmo and haul the sail up, As the gizmo goes up past a certain point at the top, the sail locks and gizmo comes out the top of the furler and is pulled down to the deck. So do you have a funny looking stainless steel gizmo that you have been thinking..man, what a stange bottle opener?
 
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ken

J and D page 2 on the link

I have the CDI furler in the diagram. Item d is what you're looking for to lower the sail. Don't let the tail of the internal halyard get away from you and go all the way to the top of the furler! You'll probably need a messenger line to attach to the bottom of item D.
 
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D. Menzies

Hmmm.......

Thanks for the responses. That was the manufacturer but I have no "ferrule" that comes out of the base at all. I'm going to go up the mast to see what is going on at the top. Mabey the lock is up there as suggested....
 
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Ed A.

two types of furlers by cdi

One has a latch at the top of the track. a special car is used to run up the other track and trip the lever. Usually the car is a funny shaped metal part with a loop on it for the halyard and the line to pull it back down. it wont come down by it self when the sail drops. If you dont have one of those parts look on the cdi website or call and they can help you. If ;you go up to check it out you can trip the lever in the opposite track and the sail will come loose. Immagine having to take it down at sea. The other system uses a halyard with that runs back down in the other track and is secured at the bottom of the foil. I hope this helps. You should have an extra halyard to use to pull up the slide to release the sail. the benifit is you can use the halyard for other things while the jib is on the foil. good luck.
 
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Lee Henderson

CDI Slide

I have a CDI on my Hunter 27. I have a lock pin thru a slide on the foil which I tie a line. With the pin out the sail can be pulled down the foil, as the slide and line run to the top of the foil. You use the line to hoist the sail as you feed the sail into the foil. By the way the CDI product is great
 
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Joe Mullee

What if the car becomes stuck?

I too have an old CDI unit that uses the "car" to go up the mast and unlatch the head of the jib. My boat is a 1983 H34 and when I bought it in 2001 it had the unit. The unit was old but it worked OK furling and unfurling. When hurricane Isabel was coming up the bay I needed to get the sail down but the car got stuck at the top of the mast. I did use a trailing line but still couldn't get it back down. It was jammed in. That is a problem with the old units. That car can get stuck and if you're out in a blow and have a need to bring down the jib it could get ugly. I ended up speaking with the guy who owns CDI. Nice fella. He told me that that type of unit has been a problem since its' initial design and that they don't sell it anymore. I ended up buying one of their new models and it works great for the bay. Practical Sailor did a piece on furlers this past fall and the CDI came in with very high marks for those that cruise. I'm pleased. JM
 
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Ed A.

mine sticks too.

Mine sticks too im about to remove the pin at the top and just leave the halyard on it like most of the new ones do. The design does s#$@.
 
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Ron Vanderveer

CDI Messenger

D I think you might have the type of rig we do on our 1982 27, which is the CDI Flexible Furler. Andy described it correctly, if it is indeed this unit. You should have a halyard somewhere on your boat that is not being used for holding up the jib. That halyard is used to hoist the "messenger" that gets attached at its top to the halyard, and at the bottom of the messenger you should attach a piece of line that will help you bring it back down once the sail is hoisted again. I don't have the manual in front of me here at work, but you can find it on the CDI site. Ours didn't get stuck the first time we used it, but it didn't unlock the jib. Turns out we had it upside down. So it does matter which way you hoist it. And don't be afraid to grease it up a bit to help it slide. As mentioned, that furler has the advantage of freeing up your jib halyard for hoisting engines onto dinghies and so forth. Good luck, Ron Vanderveer Dolphin Dancer
 
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Dave Menzies

Got It, Thanks

IT was that bizzare design where a car unlocks at the top of the sail. I climbed up and got it. Not I have to order a replacement car because I didnt get one with the boat. They sell conversion kits ( to a halyard) because I can only guess they were the laughing stock of the furl-business. Again, this site is great. Thanks to all... CDI's website.... www.sailcdi.com
 
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