Help for all of us newbies?

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Nov 21, 2007
673
Beneteau Oceanis 34 Kingston, WA
Would now be a good time for all of you "experienced" sailors to pass along your favorite tips on maintenance, both day to day and end/start of season, to those of us who are new to the sport this year? I'd settle for links to favorite topics already covered in this forum - favorite books - pet peeves or mistakes that you see us making... All that kind of stuff?

I'm looking for information that will help those of us so new to sailing that we don't know, yet, what we don't know...:confused:

Thanks,
Dave
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Maintenance Maintenance Maintenance

Establish a routine for your maintenance. Schedule all tasks on a regular basis. Do not use the wait till it breaks or quits mentality. Oil changes, filter changes, fuel filter changes. Try to find a good source of clean fuel if you have a diesel. Inboard or outboard engine, change the water pump impeller on a regular basis. Many change it every year, some every two years. Some run it till it quits working. Two years on an impeller has worked for me for many years. But I wouldn't go any longer than that. Do a regular walk around every time you sail the boat. Kind of like a pre flight on an airplane. Check things like cotter pins on all rigging pins, look for frayed or damaged halyards. The list could go on seemingly forever, but I will let others chime in with more.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Re: Maintenance Maintenance Maintenance

I just use and follow a "Pay Attention" approach to boat care. If it is dirty clean it. If you wonder , then check. When you put your hand on a stay or shroud look at it and where it is attached. When you check the oil, wipe down the engine. When you get a glass of water look at it before you drink it. Is it clear,or cloudy? How does it taste? Did the engine start as nicely this time as last? When you spin a winch does it tick like a fine watch? Do the blocks squeak when you trim your sails? Are your lines starting to show some wear? Just pay attention to the little things and there may never be any "big things".
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,438
Oday 25 pittsburgh
Water, check for water, notice when you see water.

Yes, boats float, they only float when they hold water. The last thing you want is a leak!
A leak in the hull sinks the boat. A leak on the deck ruins the boat. I believe this is the area most boat owners put off and I think that this is what ruins a boat the fastest.
Find it, fix it... procrastination will be the ruin of the boat.
On a lighter note.. I love sailing, fishing, the wild life, and just being on the water. I just don't like water where it doesn't belong!
r.w.landau
 
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Bob V

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Mar 13, 2008
235
Catalina 42mkII Lagoon Point
Good Suggestions from all so far

I would add that all hose clamps, bolts, nuts, screws, etc. and constantly in need of checking. I even found engine mount nuts that have vibrated loose to the point I could turn them by hand. Hose clamps are the worst, use top quality clamps and check them regularly.
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
Another thing to consider Dave

Is to check out the Beneteau Owners Association, and look specifically for a sub group of the First 285 owners.

As a Catalina Owner, I can go to the owners association site and look up published information that is specific to my boat. There are usually people at those sites that are major contributors to those sites, like we have here. Those folks have a lot of experience with the specific model of boat that they own, and their interest in their boat has driven them to research, document and share everything that they can lay hands on. They are really tight with the factory folks and get lots of info from them and the design engineers.

Also, did you get an owners manual with your boat? There should be a routine set of maintenance guidelines for it. There should be a book specifically for the engine. Yanmar has one for mine with a page with routines to be done by the hours, oil change, impeller change, oil filter, fuel filter, belt tension for alternator, coolant, cleaning the rods out in the heat exchanger, valve lash adjustment, etc.

For the engine for instance, like Nice n Easy has said, maintenance...maintenance, etc., and then some more.

Check belt tension, change filters, flush the cooling system, change the coolant, keep fuel topped off, make sure fuel is treated with bio-guard, keep fuel treated with water-zorb and stabilizer, keep the impeller working good by changing it out, clean out the raw water intake strainer, check the motor mounts, check the alignment of the engine and the shaft, ensure it is less than about .03 inch of throw out or what ever is stated in your manual, keep the battery terminals clean, put dielectric compound on them, check all your electical connections for tightness and keep clean and corosion free, especially with the ship to shore power cord, again, dielectric compound and make sure the terminal lugs are tight from the twist lock to the main service disconnect for the boat, clean the filter for the fresh water pump, make sure your scuppers are opened up, check the bilge pump and float switch and ensure that they are kept clean and free of debris and no build up of slime. Do you have propane on board? Check the bottle, and make sure it is rust free, touch up if necessary with primer and paint. Check the tension on the shrouds and ensure the rigging is balanced. Pull the winches apart and clean and lubricate. Take a box like an empty beer case or similar in size and cut a hole in it the diameter of the largest diameter on the winch and place it over the winch and down on to the top of the boat so if you take the winch apart with the boat in the water, you don't loose anything. I do this if I don't get the boat hauled out and the winches need to be cleaned and lubed just to keep from dropping anything overboard.

YU know, just like Nice n Easy said, pre-flight check it. Turn your fire extinguishers upside down and beat the sediment out of the bottom with a rubber mallet and then invert them back and forth several times to keep the bi-carb mixed since it will settle to the bottom and pack down and not be mixed up when you need it if heaven forbid you ever do. Check the specific gravity of the battery acid with a hydrometer, you know, just the routine stuff.
Do you have packing or the PSS dripless seal for the shaft? Check that. Work the through hulls and put a little lube to them also. Look for any rust and eliminate it with some ospho and then prime and repaint.

You should be able to find something from the Beneteau site though that someone has put together on a spreadsheet. Also, check for a commissioning and decommissioning sheet for winterizing and bringing back online in the spring.

Good luck Dave.

Tom
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Re: Another thing to consider Dave

I think that what the others are saying that I didn't, is you have to know what you are looking at to know if it is going bad. Learn all that you can about the systems on your boat and on other boats. The more you know then the more you will see when you look.
 

Ctskip

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Sep 21, 2005
732
other 12 wet water
Something I picked up here

And that was keep the key to the ignition hanging on one of the thru hulls. That way you can't start your motor with out going to it. It gives me a peek at the bilge while I'm there. And that way you'll be sure to close it when you are done.. When ever there is a chance of hurricane I leave the key in the ignition. That way, if need be, anyone can move my vessel for safety sakes. Sailing is an art that takes planning ahead and knowing what to do in any situation that comes along. Give yourself plenty of time. Preplanning is important. Practice man over board (MOB) drills, along with docking under varying wind/current conditions. Every year update your first aid kit. Theres much more, so I'll leave some for others.

Keep it up,
Ctskip
 
Nov 21, 2007
673
Beneteau Oceanis 34 Kingston, WA
Without responding to each of these, that is exactly the type of information that I'm looking for! Some of them fit my approach to maintenance perfectly, some taught me something new, some don't really apply (the 285 doesn't have an ignition key, and never did).

The checklist got my attention... I didn't start spending a lot of time on this forum until the old system had already started having problems. I'll make sure that I go back and recheck some areas of the site that didn't work for me before. I also dug a little deeper into my Google results and found a more detailed parts book for my Volvo motor than I'd seen before (on a UK site).

Thanks again! Keep them coming!
Dave
 
Nov 21, 2007
673
Beneteau Oceanis 34 Kingston, WA
...Upon further review...

Ross, in your reply you specifically mention the drinking water. We've had (still have, it's for sale) a truck camper before and followed procedures to sanitize the water tank, etc., are there similar procedures for fresh water storage on a sailboat? We will have Synergie in long term storage over the winter while we are away from Oly.

Dave
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
fast enough, if you plan on laying up for long term storage and the potential for freezing is there, the best thing to do is drain everything and winterize it. If you plan on keeping it in the water yet not going to it frequently, this has the potential for disaster and isn't something that Ross or I or most of the rest of us would consider. I keep my boat in the water year round and use it year round. If I don't go to the boat every day and check everything, I have made arrangements to have someone that I have trained to go and check it for me, and I worry about it until I get back and check it myself. It doesn't take that long to fill it back up, and that beats having a line, or pump burst from freezing. If you go away and leave a heater on, and not check it daily, this is the potential for diaster and a fire.

During the winter, I check my boat first thing in the morning, then about 3 or 4 in the afternoon and then about 10 at night, since we get freezing temps, but I keep it heated and I spend a lot of time on it tinkering with it and going out when I get a pretty day. Throughout the year, I keep my tanks sanitized with the occasional use of the chlorox and vinegar treatment, and I use it so much that my tanks get filled at least once or twice a week.

Fortunately for me, I can walk to my boat in less than 5 minutes from the house.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Ross, in your reply you specifically mention the drinking water. We've had (still have, it's for sale) a truck camper before and followed procedures to sanitize the water tank, etc., are there similar procedures for fresh water storage on a sailboat? We will have Synergie in long term storage over the winter while we are away from Oly.

Dave
Storage is storage, be it boat or RV . if it works for your RV it will work for your boat.
 
Jan 22, 2008
519
Sundance Sundance 20 Weekender Ninette, Manitoba, Canada
create a list and use it each and every time

I have checklists for each common function on my boat:
spring commissioning checklist
pre departure checklist
pre docking checklist
fall decommissioning checklist

Here is a part of my predeparture list:

□ Attach motor lanyard clip
□ Turn on VHF □ Check weather
□ Remove and stow sail cover, tiller cover, compass cover
□ Ensure halyards are free to run, remove bungees
□ Release jib tie
□ Cleat jib furling line to prevent premature deployment
□ Lower swing keel into position
□ PFD on and □ Place throwable device in cockpit
□ Check pressure gauge on Fire Extinguisher
□ Sound Signaling Device on PFD (whistle)
□ Attach & reset GPS
 
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