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Oct 17, 2011
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My Admiral appreciates that! (quote)

Yes, yes. This is very important. Us "Old timers" don't mind too bad washing the windows in a boat. But more often than not, especially with inexperienced guests, that heeling can make everyone on edge. Make the mistake of taking a semi-reluctant friend, neighbor, etc. out for a "relaxing day of sailing", that to them seems like the final leg of the A.C. cup race, and there is a real, and very highly likely possibility that they may never set foot on a sailing boat again..
 

StanFM

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Jun 26, 2012
276
S2 7.3 Lake Pleasant, AZ
My Admiral appreciates that! (quote)

Yes, yes. This is very important. Us "Old timers" don't mind too bad washing the windows in a boat. But more often than not, especially with inexperienced guests, that heeling can make everyone on edge. Make the mistake of taking a semi-reluctant friend, neighbor, etc. out for a "relaxing day of sailing", that to them seems like the final leg of the A.C. cup race, and there is a real, and very highly likely possibility that they may never set foot on a sailing boat again..
Hah! On our boat with no reef in the main-- "Where's my life jacket?" With one reef in the main-- "Where's my Kindle?"

Stan
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Hah! On our boat with no reef in the main-- "Where's my life jacket?" With one reef in the main-- "Where's my Kindle?"

Stan
Haha! The Admiral won't yet take anything of value on the boat. No cell phone, etc. She is sure it will flip over, sink, and she will lose everything. Mind you; we have never been past 10-15 degrees heel! And I doubt even that much! But she is green, so I'll take it easy. Besides, I really do enjoy sailing with her.

By the way, we installed reefing-led-aft today, and she really appreciated it. I showed her which line to haul and to tie the reefing ties. She said, "Good, let's try that today." Since pretty much everyone else was reefed today, I didn't feel bad.

Andrew
 
May 13, 2012
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mac mac ca
Haha! The Admiral won't yet take anything of value on the boat. No cell phone, etc. She is sure it will flip over, sink, and she will lose everything. Mind you; we have never been past 10-15 degrees heel! And I doubt even that much! But she is green, so I'll take it easy. Besides, I really do enjoy sailing with her.

By the way, we installed reefing-led-aft today, and she really appreciated it. I showed her which line to haul and to tie the reefing ties. She said, "Good, let's try that today." Since pretty much everyone else was reefed today, I didn't feel bad.

Andrew
Any pointers, or better yet, a step-by-step YouTube video link of how one would go about installing this "reefing-led-aft" I've been hearing about?
Thanks
 
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Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Any pointers, or better yet, a step-by-step YouTube video link of how one would go about installing this "reefing-led-aft" I've been hearing about?
Thanks
Yes, decide which side of the mast you want the line to come aft. That is the side you will start.
For instance, if your line will come aft on the port side of the mast,

1. Install an eye strap on the port side of the boom with the eye facing upward directly beneath the clew (aft) reefing cringle at the aft end of the sail. You will tie off the end of the reefing line here.

2. Install a cheek block on the starboard side of the boom directly opposite the eye strap on the aft end of the boom.

3. Install a cheek block on the forward end of the starboard side of the boom beneath the tack (forward) reefing cringle.

You now have the eye strap and two cheek blocks.

4. Tie your reefing line to the eye strap at the aft end of the boom.

5. Feed the reefing line up through the clew (aft) reefing cringle and down through the starboard cheek block. Turn the line forward and run it to the forward check block. Feed the line through the cheek block to turn upward. Feed the line up through the tack (forward) reefing cringle and back down the mast.

6. Install a turning block on the port side of the mast step plate beneath the reefing line. Feed your reefing line through the step plate turning block toward the cockpit.

7. Install 2 eye straps at the 1/3 and 2/3 points between the cheek blocks on the boom to lead the line along the boom. I do this last just because the line shows me exactly where I want them.

Hauling the reefing line will effectively haull the two reefing cringles down to the boom.
Tie pieces of 1/4 inch line through the 3 middle reefing cringles, and these will be tied under the boom when reefing to hold the middle of the sail down.


This takes about 15 - 20 minutes to install.

Thanks,

Andrew
 
Feb 26, 2009
716
Oday 30 Anchor Yacht Club, Bristol PA
I once heard a beer can racer say to my son "real men don't reef" Of course my son took it as gospel LOL We could not sail my boat without a fight about reefing.
 
May 13, 2012
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mac mac ca
Yes, decide which side of the mast you want the line to come aft. That is the side you will start.
For instance, if your line will come aft on the port side of the mast,

1. Install an eye strap on the port side of the boom with the eye facing upward directly beneath the clew (aft) reefing cringle at the aft end of the sail. You will tie off the end of the reefing line here.

2. Install a cheek block on the starboard side of the boom directly opposite the eye strap on the aft end of the boom.

3. Install a cheek block on the forward end of the starboard side of the boom beneath the tack (forward) reefing cringle.

You now have the eye strap and two cheek blocks.

4. Tie your reefing line to the eye strap at the aft end of the boom.

5. Feed the reefing line up through the clew (aft) reefing cringle and down through the starboard cheek block. Turn the line forward and run it to the forward check block. Feed the line through the cheek block to turn upward. Feed the line up through the tack (forward) reefing cringle and back down the mast.

6. Install a turning block on the port side of the mast step plate beneath the reefing line. Feed your reefing line through the step plate turning block toward the cockpit.

7. Install 2 eye straps at the 1/3 and 2/3 points between the cheek blocks on the boom to lead the line along the boom. I do this last just because the line shows me exactly where I want them.

Hauling the reefing line will effectively haull the two reefing cringles down to the boom.
Tie pieces of 1/4 inch line through the 3 middle reefing cringles, and these will be tied under the boom when reefing to hold the middle of the sail down.


This takes about 15 - 20 minutes to install.

Thanks,

Andrew
Wow, 15-20 min? Sounds very complicated. I think I need to wait till it comes out on video.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
No, not complicated at all. Drilling a hole in the boom takes 5 seconds. Mark it, drill it using pilot point bits to minimize "bit walk," and screw in the eyelet or block. 2 blocks and 3 eyelets to mount. Really, 15 minutes. Check out CD for the diagram and kit.

Thanks,

Andrew
 
Feb 26, 2009
716
Oday 30 Anchor Yacht Club, Bristol PA
Tie a self inflating vest on the top of your mast and good luck!
 

Bilbo

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Aug 29, 2005
1,265
Catalina 22 Ohio
The only issue I had was; when coming about a couple times when it was really blowing the jib got twisted around the forward stay and it was pretty violent. I am not sure how this happened because both jib sheets were cleated. I had to go forward to unravel it, which single handing in these winds was sketchy as hell. It took nearly 5 minutes and it was very violent. The last issue I had was while I was unraveling it from the stay the jib sheets twisted up together and I had to completely untwist them.

I am not sure how to avoid all of this. The only thing that I could imagine that I could have possibly done wrong is that I didn't pull the sheet in quick enough while coming about and I let it flap/slack too much and it the jib went forward of the forward stay and wrapped. Once I started pulling it in faster it didn't happen anymore. But I am not sure if it could have been something else. Also, I am not sure if it only happened when coming about thru/into the eye or visa-versa......
What size foresail are you using?

When tacking (coming about into the wind) or changing the sides of the sails, Timing is important. you should release the one jib sheet and then cleat the one you need at the right time so that the foresail won't wrap around the forestay, you won't lose either of the sheets overboard and you won't loose much boat speed.

At your level of expertise and under these winds, I'd be real cautious about jibing or changing sail sides with the winds coming from behind the boat. That could cause your jib and the sheets to wrap around your forestay.

If I were you, I'd study the points of sail and how your lines control the sails under each..starting with the "close haul." When close hauled, do you find your boat handling just a bit differently when you are sailing on starboard tack vs. Port?
Also if the winds are strong, don't be afraid to start the day with just your foresail?
 
Dec 11, 2008
1,338
catalina C27 stillwater
Bilbo brings up a good point re: jibing. To explain the difference between jibing and tacking, know both terms talk about turning the boat through the wind so much that after turning the wind is blowing on the other side of the boat. In that aspect they are similar.

When you tack you turn the boat by turning into the wind, allowing the wind to blow from the bow, (front) to the stern. Doing this leaves the sails streaming aft and relatively gently as the boat turns through the wind.

A jibe is where you turn down-wind through your turn. A jibe is a lot to handle as a beginning sailor as the rig wants to blow forward, often violently. It is hard on the rigging, hard on the sails, and especially hard on your noggin if you get whacked by a boom flying around.

I tell any new sailor to avoid the jibe at all costs, even tacking through 270 degrees to get to a new course without jibing. It is much easier to manage a tack compared with a jibe.

Bottom line, for a new sailor, do not jibe.
 
Dec 11, 2008
1,338
catalina C27 stillwater
The only issue I had was; when coming about a couple times when it was really blowing the jib got twisted around the forward stay and it was pretty violent. I am not sure how this happened because both jib sheets were cleated. I had to go forward to unravel it, which single handing in these winds was sketchy as hell. It took nearly 5 minutes and it was very violent. The last issue I had was while I was unraveling it from the stay the jib sheets twisted up together and I had to completely untwist them.

I am not sure how to avoid all of this. The only thing that I could imagine that I could have possibly done wrong is that I didn't pull the sheet in quick enough while coming about and I let it flap/slack too much and it the jib went forward of the forward stay and wrapped. Once I started pulling it in faster it didn't happen anymore. But I am not sure if it could have been something else. Also, I am not sure if it only happened when coming about thru/into the eye or visa-versa.

Anyway, all-in-all it was a success. All except for getting whipped across the face several times while untwisting the jib sheets while forward in 30 knot gusty winds with full mainsheet and no-one at the helm. ;-)
To elaborate on my previous post, close your eyes and picutre yourself in this scenario...

Say you are going east, and the wind is coming out of the south. Now pitcure you want to turn around 180 degrees and go west. In this scenario you should always turn to starboard, (right) swinging the bow of the boat through the wind. This is called a tack. Doing this will allow the mainsail to slowly swing from port to starboard as you make your turn, and the loose jib will want to blow on-board and aft rather than going forward as you describe. Everything will happen in a generaly controlled manner, and the wind will help blow the jib across the deck to a new set on your new heading.

Now in this same situation, (you are going east, wind is out of the south) and you want to go west, what happens if you turn to port, (left)? Bad things usually happen unless you are well prepared.... First off, the boat will slow down slightly as you start the turn. The next thing that might happen is the wind will meet the main sail at a point where it is blowing straight down the boom, but from the back of the boat, (aft)... As soon as the wind starts blowing on the port side of the mainsail the boom will SLAM across the cockpit, often very violently.... ( I have broken mainsheet tackle on a beach cat when forced to jibe when the boat would not tack). When you release your jib, with the bow of the boat now pointed downwind, the jib will want to fly out in front of the boat, rather than back towards the mast... It will flog violently often wrapping the sail and the sheets around the forestay... During all of this you will look around, (if not in a frantic panic to regain control) and see that your mast is still wiggling from the boom flying over the cockpit and you will hear the standing rigging pulling and tugging on the boat quite audibly.

This second dramatic course-change option I described is an uncontrolled jibe. Your description above has several clues that tell me you are turning downwind to change directions rather than upwind; i.e you are using a jibe rather than a tack..

It is possible to perform a controlled jibe, but it takes planning well in advance. One generally needs to haul in on the main and center the traveller to minimize the distance the main and boom will "pop" when the wind shifts sides with respect to the main. During this time you will be subject to the heel you came here with... :) You also generally will not release the jib, rather letting it start to backwind inside the fore-triangle, (the place between your forestay and your boom) releassing the port jib sheet well after the turn has initiated. This prevents the jib from blowing forward as you describe.

If my assumptions are correct, once you get into the habit of tacking rather than jibing I think you will find you have gained a huge degree of control over the boat.

Hopefully this insight is valuable!

Phil
 
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