Heaving to

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Apr 3, 2008
166
Nonsuch Ultra 30 Gulfport, FL
Don,

Now that my newer boat is a Nonsuch 30 I have a question. There were many times with my sloop rigged IP that I hove to, especially in weather. Is there a comparable sail setting where the Nonsuch (Catboat) rig can be adjusted to be able to heave to?

Thanks,

>>ron<<
S/V Serenity II
NSU 30 479
Gulfport, FL
 
May 31, 2007
767
Hunter 37 cutter Blind River
An excellent and intriguing question. Looking forward to answers from cat boats. I suspect all one can do is tie in an extremely tight reef.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,175
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Without a doubt there will be those here who claim a boat must have a headsail to heave to.... because most definitions of heaving to include backing the headsail to counteract the mainsail.... however... I have sailed many cat rigged boats...Lasers, sabots, hobie 14 etc.... and they can be hove to.

But don't take my word for it. From John Rousmaniere's classic "Annapolis Book of Seamanship", 2nd edition, page 87, I quote:
You can also heave to without a jib, with the mainsail traveller car all the way to leeward, the main sheet trimmed so the sail is half-full, and the helm lashed where she sails herself to a 60 degree ange to the wind.
So essentially you sail on a close reach and let the sail out till it weathervanes, secure it... then lash the rudder to hold that position. The sail will back and fill slowly as the apparent wind direction goes forward when the boat tries to speed up.... the lashed rudder keeps the boat from heading up or falling off.

If you're interested in learning a crew overboard technique that uses a mainsail only heave to, read through pages 176-177 of the same book.... the "Rod-stop" is an effecient way of stopping the boat, being able to leave the helm and assist in the recovery of the crew, and resuming progress without having to turn the vessel to back the jib as required in a traditional heave to. You'll be enlightened.
 
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RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
ditto with Joe
Heaving-to with just a deep reefed main is a 'well worn' tactic for extra strong winds and waves. You just have to adjust the traveller and counter rudder until the boat sets to the oncoming waves (typically at a 45° angle) and the boat doesnt fore-reach or make any 'stern-way' from that ~45° imaginary line that youre now 'drifting' on.

This a very effective tactic with longish keeled boats ... more so if you also have a sea-anchor tied to bridle that allows the bridle to set the sea anchor offset back from the bow on that approx. 45° line.

F9 & F10+ is where you will appreciate knowing how to be hove-to on just a 'handkerchief' of mainsail (or try'sl).

:)
 
Apr 3, 2008
166
Nonsuch Ultra 30 Gulfport, FL
Hey guys, Thanks for the advice. The only caveat is that the Nonsuch does not have a traveller. It is a wishbone rig. I'll have to figure out how to compensate. I'll be interested to see what Don has to say when he jumps in.

Reef early,

>>ron<<
 
Jun 22, 2012
39
Catalina 27 std dinette mission bay
Hey guys, Thanks for the advice. The only caveat is that the Nonsuch does not have a traveller. It is a wishbone rig. I'll have to figure out how to compensate. I'll be interested to see what Don has to say when he jumps in.

Reef early,

>>ron<<

In that case, use the vang, or whatever device you have to keep the boom from lifting. You can also rig a "preventer" to stabilize the boom/mainsail. Perhaps that wishbone cat rig is already pretty stable, it looks like it would be real easy to handle...... Anyway give yourself a chance to experiment with the new rig, I"m sure you'll figure it out. Have fun with the new boat.... Joe from SD.

PS.... Ron, I took a look at the www.Nonsuch.Org owner's website. That is a very interesting boat.... I like it! It looks like a comfortable, stable cruiser....

Anyway, perhaps some of the members there might be able to help you with the "heave to" query.... I noticed they had a forum, but you must join the site.... I would be very interested in your experiences with this wishbone, stayless rig.... I hope you'll share them with us.
 
Jun 8, 2004
2,933
Catalina 320 Dana Point
Ron, There used to be a boat in my marina I thought was a Nonesuch, had a carbon fiber mast that looked like wood. But, it had Leeboards, not little wimpy ones either but a large one on each beam. I can't find any reference to them now, was it a dream or hallucination that there was a leeboard Nonesuch made ?
 
Apr 3, 2008
166
Nonsuch Ultra 30 Gulfport, FL
Victory,

I've owned and sailed Serenity for about a year now. My previous boat was an Island Packet 27. All I can say is that sailing this boat is a dream. George Hinterhoeller really knew what he was doing.

>>ron<<
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,492
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
I think the credit should be shared with Mark Ellis - who was the designer.
 
Apr 3, 2008
166
Nonsuch Ultra 30 Gulfport, FL
Roger that. The story how the design and manufacture of the Nonsuch came about is very interesting. Thanks to all of you for your input to my query.

>>ron,,
 
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