Heading to Greece for a week. Suggestions?

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Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
We're off. The Admiral and I are off for a week in Greece, sailing a Pogo 12.50. It will be cool weather still but that's OK, the sailing should make up for it. We will be in the Cyclades for a week, and would love any advice on what's special to see from people that have been there. The boat is wicked fast, so even Santorini is in play. Vid of the boat in action.

 

wetass

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Mar 9, 2011
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CS 36T Seattle
About 10 years ago, we spent one week (out of a 3 week Greece vacation) on a charter in the islands. One week wasn't much time to really see the islands and we have really been itching to go back. We went to the easy places to reach from Pireas - Hydra, Poros, Kythnos (Spelling, sp, sp, and sp?), and a couple others I cant spell or remember the names of. But, if I were to do it over again, I would have seen if we could have been more adventurous and tried to reach further east. We ended up seeing them by way of their ferry system, but by sailboat would have been much nicer. SO bottom line - be aggressive ;-)
 
Aug 2, 2005
1,155
Pearson 33-2 & Typhoon 18 Seneca Lake
Remember this phrase.......... "Dio Alpha, Para Calo" That is for ordering two of the Alpha brand beers. Useful in any social situation.
 

Bosman

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Oct 24, 2010
346
Solina 27 Wabamun, Alberta
Come on over!

Our SPOT tracker
http://bit.ly/TrackKestrel

Hail us on VHF when we pass close. SV Hermes.
Unfortunately, I am in Edmonton until (hopefully) the end of August... no chance I will be able to hail, for as much as I would like to. I will, however, follow your trip on the tracker. Fantastic adventure, take lots of photos!!! I look forward reading your review and opinions on the boat.
 
Apr 22, 2001
497
Hunter 420 Norfolk, VA
I chartered a 56’, 4 cabin Beneteau (with 3 other couples) out of Pireas in Sept., 2004, with a Greek captain.
We did Idra ( really pretty), Serifos, Mykonos, Delos (uninhabited archaeological site),Paros (beautiful anchorage in NW corner of bay on N coast opposite Naousa).

We took the ferry down to MUST SEE Santorini ( from Mykonos ) to save time as distances are great.
The islands are rather barren and rocky… the water will be beautiful, but cold… and get help planning your route.
Suggestions … be ready and confident in your ability to med-moor and hopefully someone in your party can speak a little Greek.
Have fun
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
OK!

Day one a washout. When rain let up we had gusts over 30 knots in the harbor, and the breeze was tearing the tops off waves in the strait between the mainland and Long Island. So we hunkered down and planned. And ate and drank.

Next day looking very good, so at bit past 10am we called the marina for a RIB to nudge the bow and we set off in a projected 15-20 out of the North. Weather forecast had crap coming in west so we planned for as much easting as we could. Raising sail was frankly a bit intimidating, if looked like we were about to double hand an Open 60. But within a few minutes under sail, that was dispelled, the boat is a bit of a pussycat, albeit a very fast one.

Tons of textile rigging, dyneema and low friction rings everywhere. Also lots of 2:1s, gennaker and main halyard on blocks, but also simple turns (out haul, vang, twings, etc) that rely on the durability and slipperiness of hi tech rope on stainless.

Boat amusingly fast and stable. She doesn't heel, she squirts forward. Three meters (9.75 feet!) of draft clearly helps. Our course had the wind forward of the beam the entire way, from close hauled to maybe 90 true. Once you sort out the fat head main its easy, you use the mainsheet (on a winch near the companion way) to set the twist, and then primarily play the traveler to adjust the AOA.

Boat also designed/rigged for open water sailing with long times on tacks. Vang is an example, it's soft (integrated lazy jacks hold up the boom) and doubles as a preventer. But it attaches to the side deck to leeward and has to be switched when you gybe. In a racing a gybing dual it would grow old fast. But it works great, and the preventer was very handy.

Water was mostly flattish except for some decent waves in the shipping channel between Kia and Kythnos. Huge north fetch made for big breeze and rollers. That plus freighter traffic and fast ferries made for and interesting time. About this time we planned on for the night in Syros. That would mean 50nm in 6 hours if we wanted in before sundown. The fact that we did that with the wind never behind the beam is wild. Just JAM, we would often break into a plane; the stern wave falling way behind the transom. Top sustained speed was 10.something knots, with blips over 11.

Coming into the basin as the sun dropped low, the pilot guide mentioned 4M depth. That gave me a big of pause, wondering if there were low spots. But then I remember the lifting keel... A push of a button and its up 1/2 way and we are a reasonable 6 feet.

Inside the boat is huge and well thought out. Keel box is big but actually helps the boat. It's over 6 feet across open floor between the galley and Nav station, so the box gives you something to lean against. Vee very comfortable; all berths have integrated lee cloths.

Some shots.

Chilling (and checking our progress) at 10 knots while Mssr NKE drives.


The approach to Syros.


Pia drives and stays warm.


In the basin. The marina help (naturally name Adonis) was very nice and offered water and electricity for free. When we came in, he smiled and said 'ah... Pogo..'
 
Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
Looking good and and also like a great time. Looking forward to more reports!
 
Jul 28, 2010
914
Boston Whaler Montauk New Orleans
My wife and I have bare boated in the Greek islands several times and love it. Never the Cyclades, however. My advice is to find the small anchorages with maybe one taverna. We've found those are usually the best experiences. We ate sea urchin, freshly taken out of the sea and kept in a bucket of water, at one such place. But no matter what, the Greeks are great people for tourists. Have fun!!
 

Bosman

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Oct 24, 2010
346
Solina 27 Wabamun, Alberta
I have been following your progress on the tracker. Normally I would say "turn off the engine!!" ;-) but this is Pogo LOL. Glad you are making good time and having time. Looking forward seeing some pictures from your adventure!!! For now, fair winds and always at least a foot of water below the keel ;-)
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,756
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Sweet boat!!!! My one piece of advice when in Greece.......... The FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eat it while you can......:):) Sail hard and enjoy!!
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Sailing has been great, between the gales! :)

We are the only people cruising, but the locals are genuinely happy to see us and bend over backwards to be helpful. Sunny and breezy toda, one more coffe and we are off!
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Yesterday rain and cold so we explored Syros. Hitchhiked over to the old town and explored between down bursts. Forecast looked great so Mykonos tomorrow. Day broke sunny and cool, with light N breeze.

As we left a Greek navy frigate snuck out a secret base. We drove by it in on the way in and never saw it.

Later in the morning we heard on the VHF 'Turkish navy vessel XYZ123 this is Greek Navy bla-bla-bla. You are violating the terms of innocent passage through Greek territorial waters. Stop making revolutions now !'

Wow! Surface warfare! But cooler heads must have prevailed. Nothing on CNN.

All day less then 10 knots so we cracked out the gennaker and reached as high as we could. Sail is on a facnor roller. Basically boat at wind speed Developed even more respect for the Vendee Globe guys and gals, moving that huge sail around was work. We ended up in Mykonos for the night and dinner in town.

We are amazed how easy the boat is to sail. We are loving it two up. We could own one of these things. Accommodations are great. Boat is very very light and it shows. Colin Chapman used to say, you design lightness in. Same here. Everywhere. Like something NASA would have built. But some things inside look like that they might break if you abused them. Not up Beneteau standards of durability. But she weights less than our First 36.7.

As we look to head home, an interesting predicament develops.. The boat is so fast under sail in a breeze that we simple cannot rely on motoring to get us there at the same rate. That's funny and cool. We NEED a good breeze!

Syros looking at Mykonos


Vice versa
 
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