The water supply fitting on the back of the head has three circular openings and water is gushing out of them when I flush the head. The water supply pipe goes to the valve where you push the lever to flush and a flexible hose goes from there to the subject fitting and the water then enters the head. Fortunately the water drains into the shower sump. Why is it now leaking and where do I find a new fitting?
Head - Water Supply Fitting
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It would seriously help if you said what make/model head you have, especially if the fitting is an integral part of the head. If it isn't you probably need to post a photo of the fitting in question.
I looked for a Manufacturer’s name on the head and could not find it. The fitting is not integral to the head.
Can you post a couple of photos of the toilet?
I need to see the pump to be able to ID the toilet...and the fitting at the back of the bowl so I can see what it looks like. What I DON'T need is a photo of the bowl from the front, 'cuz all bowls look alike.
If you can't figure out how to post photos here, send me a PM and I'll give you my email address.
I need to see the pump to be able to ID the toilet...and the fitting at the back of the bowl so I can see what it looks like. What I DON'T need is a photo of the bowl from the front, 'cuz all bowls look alike.
If you can't figure out how to post photos here, send me a PM and I'll give you my email address.
If that's what it is,
The best solution is to replace the inlet fitting...when start solving problems by adding parts, you end up with a mess of jury rigging.
A couple of years ago I was hired to survey and trouble-shoot the systems on a 65' old trawler...I've never seen anything quite like the plumbing on that boat! Someone had wrapped the discharge line--using 4 90s--all the way around the front of the toilet when all they needed to do was aim the 90 degree discharge fitting on the back of the toilet in the opposite direction. In another head, apparently they had a lot of short pieces of pipe on hand and didn't want to buy a new 4' piece...cuz there were no less than 5 piece of pipe used to connect two sections less than 4' apart....and two of the unions were leaking. My report was 28 pages long with 20+ photos of jury rigged messes...a photo essay of how NOT to plumb a saniitation system. My favorite: the discharge from the clothes washer was teed into the holding tank overboard discharge line with two y-valves...the only time they'd ever turned on the macerator, they dumped the tank into the washer!
So let's not even START solving problems by adding unnecessary parts! It's a bad habit to get into!
The best solution is to replace the inlet fitting...when start solving problems by adding parts, you end up with a mess of jury rigging.
A couple of years ago I was hired to survey and trouble-shoot the systems on a 65' old trawler...I've never seen anything quite like the plumbing on that boat! Someone had wrapped the discharge line--using 4 90s--all the way around the front of the toilet when all they needed to do was aim the 90 degree discharge fitting on the back of the toilet in the opposite direction. In another head, apparently they had a lot of short pieces of pipe on hand and didn't want to buy a new 4' piece...cuz there were no less than 5 piece of pipe used to connect two sections less than 4' apart....and two of the unions were leaking. My report was 28 pages long with 20+ photos of jury rigged messes...a photo essay of how NOT to plumb a saniitation system. My favorite: the discharge from the clothes washer was teed into the holding tank overboard discharge line with two y-valves...the only time they'd ever turned on the macerator, they dumped the tank into the washer!
So let's not even START solving problems by adding unnecessary parts! It's a bad habit to get into!
Thank you for your reply(ies). I subsequently found that it is a Mansfield toilet and the part was a vacuum breaker. Environmental Marine in Fort Lauderdale was most helpful and sold me the replacement part.
Best regards to all,
Charlie
Best regards to all,
Charlie
Which Mansfield toilet is it?
I'm not sure that vaccuum breaker will fit your toilet...it's the right part, but SeaLand Technology bought Mansfield in 1984--which means your toilet is at least 25 years old (if it flushes with a lever or button instead of a pedal, it's even older than that!)...and has redesigned the parts for it a couple of times. The current vacuum breaker and water valve won't fit the old Mansfielf bowls. However, the good news is, Environmental Marine is a SeaLand dealer/distributor and SHOULD know what fits and what doesn't.
Do you know which Mansfield toilet youhave...is it a VacuFlush or the self-contained "Marine Traveler" that's a bowl sitting atop a tank? They both use the same bowl, water valve and vacuum breaker, but they work entirely differently
I'm not sure that vaccuum breaker will fit your toilet...it's the right part, but SeaLand Technology bought Mansfield in 1984--which means your toilet is at least 25 years old (if it flushes with a lever or button instead of a pedal, it's even older than that!)...and has redesigned the parts for it a couple of times. The current vacuum breaker and water valve won't fit the old Mansfielf bowls. However, the good news is, Environmental Marine is a SeaLand dealer/distributor and SHOULD know what fits and what doesn't.
Do you know which Mansfield toilet youhave...is it a VacuFlush or the self-contained "Marine Traveler" that's a bowl sitting atop a tank? They both use the same bowl, water valve and vacuum breaker, but they work entirely differently
Re: Which Mansfield toilet is it?
Thanks Peggy, I sent photographs and their tech rep knew which model # etc. Don’t you just love digital photography?
Best regards and thanks for all that you do and have done for the boating community.
Your not too secret admirer,
Charlie
Thanks Peggy, I sent photographs and their tech rep knew which model # etc. Don’t you just love digital photography?
Best regards and thanks for all that you do and have done for the boating community.
Your not too secret admirer,
Charlie
Re: Which Mansfield toilet is it?
Peggie, Sorry… I didn’t mean to offend you. I thought Charlie was talking about the little additive fitting that can be installed in the line between the bowl and the pump. A bottle of blue goo screws onto the bottom of it. I’ve had two break and leak like what he was describing .. Why would they put a vacuum breaker in the hose between the pump and the bowl?
Peggie, Sorry… I didn’t mean to offend you. I thought Charlie was talking about the little additive fitting that can be installed in the line between the bowl and the pump. A bottle of blue goo screws onto the bottom of it. I’ve had two break and leak like what he was describing .. Why would they put a vacuum breaker in the hose between the pump and the bowl?
What made you think you offended me????
To answer your question, on all the SeaLand (nee Mansfield) fresh water toilets except their new MasterFlush, both the vacuum breaker and the water valve are mounted on the back of the bowl under the raised "lip"...you can see where the go here: http://www.sealandtechnology.com/pdf/511+-511+.pdf parts 14 and 15.
To answer your question, on all the SeaLand (nee Mansfield) fresh water toilets except their new MasterFlush, both the vacuum breaker and the water valve are mounted on the back of the bowl under the raised "lip"...you can see where the go here: http://www.sealandtechnology.com/pdf/511+-511+.pdf parts 14 and 15.
Wellll...not exactly
If you study the drawing and parts list a bit more closely, you'll see that the spray head assembly (15 and 16, plus the wall mounted holder 17) is an optional add-on on shower kit that has nothing to do with operation of the toilet.
What isn't shown is the flush water supply line to the toilet that connects to the water valve (part 10). Part 13 is the line from the water valve to the vacuum breaker on the back of the bowl. You can see where the vacuum breaker actually goes if you go to page 10 here: http://www.sealandtechnology.com/pdf/600340066 VacuFlush toilet manual.pdf
Btw...that manual is for the VacuFlush, but all their toilet bowls are alike except for their new MasterFlush macerating toilet.
If you study the drawing and parts list a bit more closely, you'll see that the spray head assembly (15 and 16, plus the wall mounted holder 17) is an optional add-on on shower kit that has nothing to do with operation of the toilet.
What isn't shown is the flush water supply line to the toilet that connects to the water valve (part 10). Part 13 is the line from the water valve to the vacuum breaker on the back of the bowl. You can see where the vacuum breaker actually goes if you go to page 10 here: http://www.sealandtechnology.com/pdf/600340066 VacuFlush toilet manual.pdf
Btw...that manual is for the VacuFlush, but all their toilet bowls are alike except for their new MasterFlush macerating toilet.
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