Head Waste Through Hull Identification

Apr 14, 2010
195
Jeanneau 42DS Larnaca Marina
IMG_2410.JPG IMG_2412.JPG IMG_2416.JPG IMG_2410.JPG IMG_2412.JPG IMG_2410.JPG IMG_2412.JPG IMG_2416.JPG On my new to me Jeanneau SO 42DS it seems that both sea cock valves were replaced with Marelon (or similar) which work fine. The problem I have is with the actual through hull fitting which has a small leak around the sealant where it exits the hull. Took a close look and don't see any kind of backing plate with threaded pipe and big nut like I'm used to seeing. Can't figure out how the pipe is held in place, (other than the sealant I hope)!! There seems to be a pressed ring or something like it. (see pics). Obviously this is something that would require a haulout...but in the meantime I'm considering below waterline caulking or putting a lot of thickened epoxy to seal everything but I'm not sure if the epoxy would stick to the wet area.
But even If I hauled, I would like to find out how to remove and replace the seacock. The last pic is from the forward head that doesn't leak.[/ATTACH]
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Oct 22, 2014
21,104
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Out of the water, you have a number of choices. Easiest is you unscrew the old unit, and then make a proper install of a new unit. From there the options become more of a challenge, not impossible.
 

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
4,773
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
If you caulk the inside, you may force water or waste into the core or it may be leaking in there already. I'd be interested to see what's up, if it was my boat, which means a haul out.
 
Oct 29, 2016
1,915
Hunter 41 DS Port Huron
Looks to me that is a taper going into a brass seal ring, there is likely a large nut and washer on the outside of the hull, I don't believe caulking would do much of anything, seepage would indicate to me a bad seal ring or a loosened compression nut. Leave it to the French to complicate what is typically far simpler.
 

SG

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Feb 11, 2017
1,670
J/Boat J/160 Annapolis
I wouldn't be "gooping it" from the inside. I'm assuming the hull isn't cored; however, it it is, then you need to make sure that the through-hull in in an epoxied hole (to seal the wood); and, then bed it as noted below. I'd make sure it was done right. IF the hose was stepped on, or otherwise someone side-loaded the thru-hull, then I'd be doubly sure to make sure it was secure and sealed property. (A leak is "frustrating", above the waterline. Below the waterline, attached to a 1 1/2" hole it could be a lot more of problem.

Forespar Marelon Thru-Hull Installation:

https://www.forespar.com/MarelonThruHullSeavalveInstallation.shtml

Marelon Thru-Hull/Seavalve Installation

Note: This Installation sheet ONLY applies to Marelon Integrated Plumbing System(Series 93) Valves

This marine seavalve is made of MARELON®, a glass reinforced nylon composite. It exceeds standards for use set by the U.L. (Underwriters Laboratory) and the American Boat and Yacht Council (A.B.Y.C.). It is a complete system including thru-hull fitting, valve body, and hose connector.

HULL OPENINGS

Prepare a clean round hole in the desired location and of the appropriate diameter for the chosen thru-hull fitting per the requirements below. For flush head thru-hull fittings only, make an external 45 deg. chamfer ¼" deep. If the recommended backing block is used, a uniform hole diameter must extend through the backing block.

½" and ¾" Thru-hull/seavalves – 1-1/8" hole

1" and 1-1/4" Thru-hull/seavalves – 1-1/2" hole

1-1/2" and 2" Thru-hull/seavalves – 2-1/8" hole

BACKING BLOCKS

A backing block or an equivalent structure molded integrally into the resin/glass hull lay-up is required for installations on all non-flat hull surfaces. This is also recommended procedure for flat surfaces as well. For wood backing blocks, white oak is a commonly used wood. There may be other suitable materials as well.

THRU-HULL FITTING LENGTH

The thru-hull fitting, when fully installed, should project beyond the internal hull/backing block surface no less than ½" and no more than 1-1/4".Engagement of five (5) full threads will generate the full loading strength of the thru-hull/seavalve assembly, which is well in excess of the 500 pounds, required by the U.L. and A.B.Y.C. standards.

BEDDING

The thru-hull fitting’s external flange should be properly bedded when the fitting is inserted into the hull. The exposed male threads protruding from the inside of the hull should be applied with bedding material as well. The surface of the female threaded round king-nut portion of the valve, which interfaces with the internal hull surface, may well be bedded also, but it is not an absolute requirement and the loading strength will not be impaired if it is not done. Bedding compounds such as 3M’s #5200, Sikaflex or Boatlife are to be recommended as well as others that are equally suitable.