H42 forward hatch

Jul 7, 2015
14
Hunter 42 Passage Lake Texoma
My 1991 H42 forward hatch has seen better days. Has anyone changed the lens or do I need to change the entire hatch?
 
May 24, 2004
7,185
CC 30 South Florida
Check with Phil in the Chandlery for this forum. He can provide brand name and model as well as a good price. You should be able to find the brand name etched in the lens and perhaps a serial number. Lewmar includes a serial number in their replaceable lenses. It depends on the model whether you can replace the lens or not.
 
Jul 7, 2015
14
Hunter 42 Passage Lake Texoma
Thank you

Thank you for the information. I'll check the lens for the manufacturer and a serial number, then check for a replacement.
 
Jul 25, 2004
359
Hunter 42 currently in New Zealand
Re: Thank you

BellaSogno,

Could you please post here what you find? I also have a 1991 Passage 42 with a forward hatch lens that needs replacing. Unfortunately my boat is in NZ and I am in Alaska. It would save me a BUNCH of trouble if you could tell me the manufacturer and model number of that hatch.

Thanks,
Paul
 

KD3PC

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Sep 25, 2008
1,069
boatless rainbow Callao, VA
BellaSogno,

Could you please post here what you find? I also have a 1991 Passage 42 with a forward hatch lens that needs replacing. Unfortunately my boat is in NZ and I am in Alaska. It would save me a BUNCH of trouble if you could tell me the manufacturer and model number of that hatch.

Thanks,
Paul

Paul & the group,
I sent this to Bomar/Pompanette back in 2008:

I have a hunter passage 42, 1991 model with a bomar hatch above the
vberth

it is your part number 1049-10 according to the hunter documentation.

I will copy and paste the information back from Bomar in a second reply for those of you who are interested. I eventually replaced mine, as it was still available in 2010 from Defender.

2nd post coming up.
 

KD3PC

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Sep 25, 2008
1,069
boatless rainbow Callao, VA
Paul & the group,


2nd post coming up.

Dave,


The lens is siliconed in with GE ultra glaze (P100-75 @ $32.00 ea) and the gasket is part number P2000-25 @ $5.00 a foot. The gasket and lens instructions are listed below:

INSTALLING REPLACEMENT LENSES IN BOMAR HATCHES

TOOLS: replacement lens
tube of silicone (GE Ultra Glaze)
old spoon
old butter knife or hanger
masking tape
blunt tool

1. Cut away old silicone and remove old lens.

2. Place a two inch strip of masking tape around the top/outside of hatch lid in order to make the removal of excess silicone less difficult.

3. If you have a cast hatch disregard this step. If you have an extruded hatch and wish to replace your gasket, do so now, making sure to place lip of the gasket on top of the flange (the underside of the lens will sit on this portion of the gasket).

4. Peel off the paper on the underside of the lens.

5. Place a moderate bead of silicone on the flange and any crossbars where the lens will set.

6. Float the lens into the silicone bead.
(If your replacement lens has holes in it for your latch dogs, place the holes away from the hinge. Allow a 1/8” space between the front edge of lens and the frame so your handles will be properly aligned. If your replacement lens does not have holes in it simply center the lens in the silicone.)

7. After the lens is floated, apply a generous bead of silicone in the gap between the edge of the lens and the frame.

8. Using the back side of an old spoon, place the tip in the silicone at 45 degrees and trowel off any excess silicone.

9. Check for air bubbles (swelling in the silicone). To remove air bubbles; drag an old butter knife through the swollen area three inches before and after the swollen area. Apply a new bead of silicone to the disturbed area and trowel off excess silicone with your spoon.

10. Allow the hatch to sit for two days.

11. Peel off the masking tape and lens paper carefully use a blunt tool to remove any silicone, being careful not to scratch the lens or the hatch frame.

12. The silicone will be totally cured in 7 days.


Best regards,
Tracy West
Customer Service Rep.
603-826-5791 X202


For the actual hatch gasket (between the fiberglass cutout and the lower ring of the hatch:

The gasket instructions are listed below:





REPLACING GASKET ON BOMAR HATCHES AND PORTS

ADHESIVE BACKED GASKET
(part numbers P100-53, P100-51, P100-52, P3000-20, P3000-21, P3000-22)

1. Pull out old gasket and using a sharp metal object (knife, awl, narrow chisel) scrape out all old adhesive. It is critical that all the old adhesive be removed.

2. Wipe down the gasket area with Isopropyl Alcohol. Use only Isopropyl Alcohol.

3. Starting near a hinge, pull back tape cover and apply gasket. After gasket is installed around perimeter, carefully cut gasket to length forming a butt joint. Using any new tube of superglue, cement butt joint being careful not to get superglue on the lens. Allow glue to set for five minutes.

4. Carefully go back and apply pressure the entire gasket. This step is extremely important. Pressure is needed to assure proper adhesion of the tape.

LIP GASKET
(part numbers P2000-25, P2000-26, P2000-09)

1. Pull out all old gasket.

2. Starting near a hinge, gently push the lip of the gasket into the space between the lens and extrusion.

3. Carefully cut gasket to length forming a butt joint.

4. Pull out two inches of gasket either side of joint. Superglue joint together. Be careful not to get superglue on the lens. Allow glue to set for five minutes.

5. Push gasket joint into cavity.

6. Apply a drop of glue in four corners as shown in the diagram below. (the gasket shown below is for demonstration, it does not represent all gaskets)
 

eianm

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Jul 7, 2010
523
Hunter 42 Sydney
WOW KD3PC- awesome info- you should post this on the owner mods section for H42- INVALUABLE detail for all H42 owners- thank you so much!!!
 
Jul 7, 2015
14
Hunter 42 Passage Lake Texoma
Dave,


The lens is siliconed in with GE ultra glaze (P100-75 @ $32.00 ea) and the gasket is part number P2000-25 @ $5.00 a foot. The gasket and lens instructions are listed below:

INSTALLING REPLACEMENT LENSES IN BOMAR HATCHES

TOOLS: replacement lens
tube of silicone (GE Ultra Glaze)
old spoon
old butter knife or hanger
masking tape
blunt tool

1. Cut away old silicone and remove old lens.

2. Place a two inch strip of masking tape around the top/outside of hatch lid in order to make the removal of excess silicone less difficult.

3. If you have a cast hatch disregard this step. If you have an extruded hatch and wish to replace your gasket, do so now, making sure to place lip of the gasket on top of the flange (the underside of the lens will sit on this portion of the gasket).

4. Peel off the paper on the underside of the lens.

5. Place a moderate bead of silicone on the flange and any crossbars where the lens will set.

6. Float the lens into the silicone bead.
(If your replacement lens has holes in it for your latch dogs, place the holes away from the hinge. Allow a 1/8” space between the front edge of lens and the frame so your handles will be properly aligned. If your replacement lens does not have holes in it simply center the lens in the silicone.)

7. After the lens is floated, apply a generous bead of silicone in the gap between the edge of the lens and the frame.

8. Using the back side of an old spoon, place the tip in the silicone at 45 degrees and trowel off any excess silicone.

9. Check for air bubbles (swelling in the silicone). To remove air bubbles; drag an old butter knife through the swollen area three inches before and after the swollen area. Apply a new bead of silicone to the disturbed area and trowel off excess silicone with your spoon.

10. Allow the hatch to sit for two days.

11. Peel off the masking tape and lens paper carefully use a blunt tool to remove any silicone, being careful not to scratch the lens or the hatch frame.

12. The silicone will be totally cured in 7 days.


Best regards,
Tracy West
Customer Service Rep.
603-826-5791 X202


For the actual hatch gasket (between the fiberglass cutout and the lower ring of the hatch:

The gasket instructions are listed below:





REPLACING GASKET ON BOMAR HATCHES AND PORTS

ADHESIVE BACKED GASKET
(part numbers P100-53, P100-51, P100-52, P3000-20, P3000-21, P3000-22)

1. Pull out old gasket and using a sharp metal object (knife, awl, narrow chisel) scrape out all old adhesive. It is critical that all the old adhesive be removed.

2. Wipe down the gasket area with Isopropyl Alcohol. Use only Isopropyl Alcohol.

3. Starting near a hinge, pull back tape cover and apply gasket. After gasket is installed around perimeter, carefully cut gasket to length forming a butt joint. Using any new tube of superglue, cement butt joint being careful not to get superglue on the lens. Allow glue to set for five minutes.

4. Carefully go back and apply pressure the entire gasket. This step is extremely important. Pressure is needed to assure proper adhesion of the tape.

LIP GASKET
(part numbers P2000-25, P2000-26, P2000-09)

1. Pull out all old gasket.

2. Starting near a hinge, gently push the lip of the gasket into the space between the lens and extrusion.

3. Carefully cut gasket to length forming a butt joint.

4. Pull out two inches of gasket either side of joint. Superglue joint together. Be careful not to get superglue on the lens. Allow glue to set for five minutes.

5. Push gasket joint into cavity.

6. Apply a drop of glue in four corners as shown in the diagram below. (the gasket shown below is for demonstration, it does not represent all gaskets)
Excellent!!!! Thank you for the information and guidance. I recently purchased a 1991 42 Passage, so I may be back for more advise...
 
Jul 7, 2015
14
Hunter 42 Passage Lake Texoma
Re: Thank you

Paul,

Sorry, I checked my hatch this weekend and do not see a name or serial number. I do see an area on the hatch frame where I believe there was a sticker which may have had the name but it is long gone. I believe KD3PC has the correct hatch and model numbers listed in a previous response.
 
Jul 25, 2004
359
Hunter 42 currently in New Zealand
Re: Thank you

No worries, and THANKS for the trouble of inspecting! I agree that KD3PC has got to have the exact make/model. But what all this has done for me is to get me to spend a couple of hours researching all information I could find on the internet about the lens replacement. It seems pretty clear to me that what I want is an acrylic, not polycarbonate, replacement lens. Further, that there is no real magic to replacing the lens. Buy the correct replacement gasket, remove the cracked/crazed lens, and replace with a properly sized piece of acrylic using either Sikaflex, Dow Corning 795, or the GE ultra-glaze. (I usually rely on Dow 795). I can have that lens cut right there in Whangarei NZ at a local shop.

I once replaced the main windshield on my P42, and it was actually much easier (although more time-consuming) than I envisioned. This forward hatch appears to be a piece of cake.

Thanks to you both, BellaSogno and KD3PC, for your help.

Cheers,
Paul