H30 Help..

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Jan 6, 2010
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Hunter 23 Dunedin FL
I'm new to the forum, I posted a similar post to the mid size section. I'm acquiring a 1977 30' site unseen. I have 3 pictures in my profile. My questions are very numerous. I plan on taking a trip very soon to inspect, possible prepare her for the motor trip home from TX to FL. I don't have the funds to ship via truck. so...where do I need to start...I have an outboard that I might attach if the motor does not run. I plan on hiring a inspector or surveyor to meet me there. I have sailed only little sunfish sailboats and wind boards so my sailing knowledge is very minimal, hence the motoring. any ideas or sarcasm would be appreciated. I'm sure I will get both.

Thanks,

Lee in Clearwater, FL
 

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
So here you are Lee. Most of us use "New Posts" under Forums so we see all the posts to all the forums. But over here on the Cherubini forum you get the Cherubini guys who look here first or only.

Difficult to say much about the boat from the pictures. You know that the non-skid was redone at least once. That is not the original color. It appears that you have an adjustable backstay and no jib furler. That usually indicates the boat was raced a little. The companionway appears to be open. Not always I hope. And here's hoping that you can get the engine running. It would be a shame to put an outboard on her. The most common problem is wet coring and water damage inside from leaks. All fixable.
 
Oct 17, 2008
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Hunter H30 Coxsackie Yacht Club
Hello Lee,
First off you are looking at a great sailboat. I myself sail a 1978 30. I personally feel that a few bucks to the right guy to make sure the motor runs is great insurance. Beyond that... our entire world was explored by men who had no access to aux power of any type. See if you can borrow or maybe you own a power boat large enough to tow you into and out of port. That becomes your dingy. Find a man with sailing experience, time on his hands(a lot of that going around at this time) and the all important spirit of adventure. If he as any sea miles under his belt he will also provide some appraisal and opinion info on the trip home. I did the same for an Oday22 from Jersey to New York. On a limited budget and a need to get it home it is what I personally would consider. Having a functional motor is of course very desireable. Also you need to get some experienced person to help you with weather forecast and navigation and course plotting. Like I said, not something that an inexperience man should undertake, however a lot of guys with time on their hands right now. Think about it. Please don't consider this undertaking alone. If the motor is working it is still not too desireable to motor all the way home on that little Yanmar is one hell of a shake-down for a 30-plus year old banger. Very sincerely though, good luck and please research all the things neccessary to keep you safe.
 
Jan 6, 2010
10
Hunter 23 Dunedin FL
Ed,

yes , I think you were the one to suggest that I try this forum over the new users forum.

Thanks
 
May 31, 2007
776
Hunter 37 cutter Blind River
Give her a good cleaning and get that survey done. Check the rigging well and hoist the sails on a calm day. If the engine craps out some time, you will need to sail. Definitely make sure you have a good anchor, chain and rode as well as all the other safety requirements. VHF radio is needed for safety and weather etc. Have a good marine diesel mechanic check out the engine and teach you a few of the basics to keep it running. $$$ well spent.

Congratulations and best of luck. And, of course, welcome to the Cherubini club.
 
May 27, 2004
2,056
Hunter 30_74-83 Ponce Inlet FL
My Recommendation

Hornman,
As the original and current owner of a 79 h30, I will echo the sentiment that it's a good boat as a general rule. But based on the condition of yours, based on the three pics, I would recommend that you explore the section of this website under the tab "Boat Info",
"Sailboat Knowledgebase" and "H30 74-83" which covers a number of repairs.

I also made an extensive commentary here as well in the difficult to find "Owners Comments" section, which I will post separately next frame.

If you would like to talk, call me at 386-423-3139 after 12 noon any day.
 
May 27, 2004
2,056
Hunter 30_74-83 Ponce Inlet FL
My experiences with a 79 h-30

After these 30 years, where to start? Over this time I removed the stock pressure alcohol stove/oven, and replaced with an Origo, 2 burner stove and a Sears microwave/convection combo oven, I don't think of propane as an asset... I smoke.

I have added one bimini and replaced two covers and two main sail covers, and a Sunbrella mast-to-backstay awning. In electronics, a RDF radio; 2 depth sounders; 2 VHF radios; 2 Garmin GPS receivers; and 2 stereo systems and a new 12 volt panel to handle new equipment.

For safety, I have added an EPIRB, Horseshoe PFD, Radar reflector, Spreader mounted deck lights, Jack lines, Masthead tri-color and anchor lights; Deck mounted running lights, the standing rigging and running rigging were replaced once, including adding a topping lift. For sailing; a 150% genoa was added.

In the interior; 2 12v fans; one 115v interior coach light; 1 brass, interior, bulkhead-mounted, gimbled, oil lamp; teak paper towel and knife holders. Mast step from the bilge to the cabin top were poorly designed. It rusted away and was replaced with an epoxy coated steel I beam, and the mast step on the cabin top was rebuilt to Hunter specs. The teak and holly sole and the Gray brand portlights were replaced with new units from Beckson. A new stainless water heater was installed, as the original rusted out. The new stainless one has a heat exchanger which provides very warm water after only one hour engine running time. The new unit is smaller than the original, but a notch must be cut in the inboard edge of the cockpit locker floor to allow installation. Hotwater heater installed as original was not suitable for marine use and required cutting fiberglass to remove and replace. Since most boat owners "trade up" after 5 years, it is left to subsequent owners to resolve these problems

The Yanmar YSM-12, one cyclinder desiel was rebuilt in 1999. New exterior, teak handrails were installed and the main hatch was rebuilt. The anchor locker hatch was rebuilt, due to delamination. Finally, a bow roller was installed. I also replaced all gate valves and thru hull fittings with seacocks. Getting to some of these components was extremely labor intensive and costly to repair.

As a pure cruiser: stable sailing, even in HEAVY seas across the Gulf Stream; people room and storage; simplicity and reliability of critical systems; a heavily built hull, which took on a main channel, steel nun-bouy and came away with only cosmetic, gel coat damage. Like most here, I find the original sail rig to work fine. The split back stay on mine is standard.
And, you've heard it all by now... YSM 12's are only barely adequate. When I learned to fly airplanes, I found that I had to plan for contingencies. It's no different with a YSM 12. I have found the significant reverse prop bias (in whichever direction) a problem.
 
Jan 6, 2010
10
Hunter 23 Dunedin FL
Thanks for the info

GGizard,

I will be calling,..... I have another question who or where do I get intouch with a inspection person. Is there someone local who can turn me on to someone inTX. I really want to know the condition the H30 really is in.

I thank everyone for all the info , I have started a list and I will be asking more questions,

Thanks for this Forum

Lee in Clearwater
 
May 27, 2004
2,056
Hunter 30_74-83 Ponce Inlet FL
Lee
You could call Tow Boat US in TX for a survey referral. Or, Boat US insurance. Your gonna want insurance and I recommend them.
G.
 
Aug 23, 2009
361
Hunter 30 Middle River MD
From One New Owner to Another

Give her a good cleaning and get that survey done. Check the rigging well and hoist the sails on a calm day. If the engine craps out some time, you will need to sail. Definitely make sure you have a good anchor, chain and rode as well as all the other safety requirements. VHF radio is needed for safety and weather etc. Have a good marine diesel mechanic check out the engine and teach you a few of the basics to keep it running. $$$ well spent.

Congratulations and best of luck. And, of course, welcome to the Cherubini club.
I bought a 77 Hunter 30 his summer and like you I had really only sailed on my own on my 14 foot dinghy sailer I did have the advantage of it being reasonably close to home, getting it surveyed prior to buying and having two very knowledgable friends who worked with me to get it home. Out trip was only 90 miles and never out of side of land. Assuming the YSB12 or for that matter any other diesel is still on board and opertional, learn how to check the separator/filter for water.

If the boat has sat a long time there is a good chance there is more than a little water in the tank. On our run home which we did mostly under sail we lost the engine on day three. The day before we had bashed north into 30 mile sustained wind with gusts into the 50's. Just so you know I wouldn't have gone out in that though the more experienced folks loved it. Even with the VHF we were told we were below where the heavy weather was but it moved further south than expected. I bring up the wind as the constant rolling and slaming into the waves churned up the water in the tank and it completely filled the separator.

On day three we motored out from our anchorage and were planning to sail under engine till we hit open water. Just as we went head to wind to hoist the sails, the engine began to sputter, opened the throttle more sputter. Then it quit. Let it rest a minute and tried starting it, after 4 tries was sure it wasn't going to catch. Luckily good wind and the more experienced members on the crew were able to sail us back to a marina and up to the dock. So heed the advice, plan to be able to run sail and have someone on board who can get you to a repair marina if you lose power under sail.
 
Jan 6, 2010
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Hunter 23 Dunedin FL
new questions and Now What ?

Title was received today, but the owner did not put the boat into his name but he signed the purchaser side of the Texas title. -DA- now I'm trying to get intouch with the original owner. I spoke to the Harbor master he stated that the engine did not run, had a leak around the chain plate 6 years ago. that has been fixed not leaking as of 1/25/09. sails are average to good and rigging is in good condition. all according to the harbor master.He checks on the boat every now and then. Boat has not had a bottom job or been out of the water for 6 years. How well does the bottom paint wear on an Average ? Surveying company will not go out to inspect until the boat is out of the water - thier reasons were understood , but that does not give me the info I need . Who should I talk to now ?

Thanks for any help
Lee in Clearwater
 
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