h23 boom setup

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Louis

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Nov 21, 2007
56
Hunter H23 Verplanck, NY Hudson River
removehtml]I have a 1986 Hunter 23 that I bought this winter. I am trying to figure out where all the lines on the boom connect to. The photo shows the aft end of the boom. I am assuming that the center shackle is for attaching to the clew of the sail and that one of the lines on the side are used for reefing. Is this correct? Is the third line for the traveler? And if so, where exactly on the mast does it connect. There is ‘pin’ on the mast just fore of the pin that the rear stay connects to. Is this where the travelers connects to? Also, is a block used to help with leverage? Any advice, diagrams or photo would be greatly appreciated! Error: Error: expected [/URL], but found [/removehtml] instead[/removehtml]
 

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BroomHilda

Most Likely...

With just that shot it is difficult to say for certain, but most likely... The port side line is probably the outhaul. Center is for the topping lift. Starboard is a reefing line.
 
Mar 1, 2005
220
Hunter 34 North East, MD
I'd say...

that the left and right side lines are for the first and second reef, the center wire/shackle is the out-haul, and the topping lift connects by the pin between the two tabs sticking up.
 
Dec 1, 2005
87
Hunter 23 Pennsville
I have an '85 H23

while my boom looks a little different (is that the Kenyon boom?) the lines should be the same. The wire (middle) is for the outhaul on the sail. Right side is the reefing line - factory H23 should only have one reef point. The left side is the topping lift. this generally goes around a pulley at the end of the topping lift cable which hangs from the masthead, back down to the boom and should secure somewhere at the end of the boom. This gives you a 2:1 purchase on the topping lift. However, on your boom I don't see the hardware to fasten it to. It should be a metal ring or hoop at the rear of the boom. Is it underneath or on the side perhaps? I've the same pin, but on my rig it has no function I'm aware of, though I suppose it could be used with a shackle to connect the topping lift.
 
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airpilot

I'm still learning

You are right about the pin. My Hunter 23 (1986) topping lift is connected at that pin with a 1/4 inch line at the lowest level. The line had a couple of small trigger snaps attach to the line to adjust the boom height upward. They do make adjustable topping kits for that, made of wire instead of rope except for the lower part is connected with a small rope and pulley setup to adjust for the exact boom height. On my boom one is for the outhaul, wire attached to a small segment of rope. The other one is for the reefing line entirely of rope. I did not know what the third one was for(empty)until I heard about placing the topping line there.
 
Oct 3, 2006
1,029
Hunter 29.5 Toms River
I think

that these boats are sold old, and have re-rigged b so many owners, that ther's no "right" way anymore! On my 23, there is a short wire lanyard on the pin - my topping lift connects to that and goes to the top of the mast - it used to go back to the boom end, but now it goes to the starboard coachroof. The outhaul is is the center - it's got a 3:1 tackle INSIDE the boom. On my boat, the main is getting really worn out (baggy), so my outhaul is shackled to a sail slide in the boom, and the clew attached to that as well. The starboard side is the reef line - it goes up the sail on the starboard side, through the sail, and then down to a small padeye on the port side of the boom, about 4" forward of the reefing eye. -I think the tackle you found is a boom vang, which was not stock, but it goes up front, between the mast base and the boom
 
Jun 4, 2004
844
Hunter 28.5 Tolchester, MD
Boom Vang

Louis, The photo you recently added appears to be a multi-purchase boom vang, which can be seen in many of the Hunter 23 photos on this site. The center line on the boom with the shackle would typically be the outhaul; one side would usually be a reefing line and the other longer line might be the lower part of a two part topping lift. Is there a line running down from the mast head perhaps terminating in a small block that could be the fixed uper part of a two part topping lift? You might study the Hunter twenty three photos on this site closely and perhaps other 23 owners will reply with the way they rig their mains.
 
Feb 7, 2005
132
Hunter 23 Mentor, Ohio
Might Depend on Your Sail

My sail has 2 sets of reef points, so I rig it like Dan Johnson described. After 1 season I found engaging and slacking the topping lift to be awkward, so I replaced it with a boom kicker.
 
Dec 1, 2005
87
Hunter 23 Pennsville
Aye...Its a vang

Which means you have the lines right and the longest should be the topping lift. The center is the outhaul, and the other should be your reef line.
 

Louis

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Nov 21, 2007
56
Hunter H23 Verplanck, NY Hudson River
H23 main sheet

Thanks again for all your advice. It's great having such a large 'support team' for the Hunter 23. However, now I'm really confused! If the bail just aft of the cleat on the bottom of the boom is for the boom vang, where does the main sheet tackle connect to on the boom?
 
Oct 3, 2006
1,029
Hunter 29.5 Toms River
Hmm

The mainsheet tackle, by nature, needs to be a few inches aft of the traveler with the boom centered, for the traveler to work properly. If it's not, you'll never be able to drop the traveleer upwind in a gust - it will just pull the leech tighter and overpower you. The vang bail is going to be somewhere closer to the foreward end of the boom - probably wherever it makes the vang a 45 degree angle with the boom level.
 

Louis

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Nov 21, 2007
56
Hunter H23 Verplanck, NY Hudson River
Still not sure

I'm still not sure how things set up. The boom has only one bail. It is aft of the cleat on the bottom of the boom. If I use this bail for the boom vang, where will the main sheet tackle attach on the boom?
 
Dec 1, 2005
87
Hunter 23 Pennsville
There should be another

unless its been removed for some reason. Can we get you to post up a pic of the cleat/bail area, and perhaps the boom as a whole? We'll get to the bottom of this.
 
Oct 3, 2006
1,029
Hunter 29.5 Toms River
hmmm

Nice diagram, except I'm pretty sure there are blocks inside the boom for the outhaul? It's wire on one end and rope on the other.
 
Dec 1, 2005
87
Hunter 23 Pennsville
That looks like its from the owners manual.

I didnt think there was a block inside, just a pulley. Since the factory main is supposed to slip into the track on the boom, being able to torque that outhaul is not as important than if the sail were loose-footed.
 
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Jim Kolstoe

Repeating question

I remember a discussion several years ago regarding h23 masts (and by extention, booms) where it was eventually determined that Hunter had used three different masts - the one you had depended on when your boat was built. Some had a pully system in the boom for the outhaul, some did not. Simiarly for the cleat under the forward portion of the boom. I think it was consistantly outhaul in the center, uphaul on portside and jiffy reefing line on starboard. By the way, the reefing line runs through the reefing kringle (gromet) and down to a padeye on the port side of the boom, located aft of the reefing kringle to provide tension down and back. The descriptions of main sheet and vang attachment points in previous postings are good and can be safely relied on. Have fun. Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
 
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