We have been racing my roommates H-26 for about 6 years now and have been doing quite well. And as you know "boys and their toys" we have added all the gear to run a spinnaker for this season. I would like to get som feed back from any one who is flying a chute on a 26 or 260. Is your pole the same as the "J" measurement? Where did you place your pole eye or are you using a track and a car? What size should the chute be? FYI our boat has been set up with jib tracks and a traveler which has helped our performance. We did fly a chute last fall from a E scow. It was too small but we had the boat doing 6.5 knots in less than 10 knots of wind.Thanks for any responses in advance. Waiting for the ice to break, Eric & Kevin "Legacy"
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Ned Christensen
Assymetric works well
I don't know anyone who uses a poled symmetrical spinnaker on a H26. However, I use an asymmetrical spinaker and it works well. I also have a friend with a H26 and he flies an aymmetric, as well. I use a collar on the tack that rides up and down on the furled jib. With a tack line led back to the cockpit, you can easily adjust the height of the tack. By adjusting the height of the tack you can fly it up to about 60 degrees off the wind. It is far easier to jibe than a symmetrical. I pull mine through the opening between the mast and the forestay, just like a genoa. A dousing sock also works well, and it can be launched and doused through the front hatch. At our club races we race in PHRF with a rating of 230. Good luck and I hope the ice melts soon! Ned Christensen Second Wind
I don't know anyone who uses a poled symmetrical spinnaker on a H26. However, I use an asymmetrical spinaker and it works well. I also have a friend with a H26 and he flies an aymmetric, as well. I use a collar on the tack that rides up and down on the furled jib. With a tack line led back to the cockpit, you can easily adjust the height of the tack. By adjusting the height of the tack you can fly it up to about 60 degrees off the wind. It is far easier to jibe than a symmetrical. I pull mine through the opening between the mast and the forestay, just like a genoa. A dousing sock also works well, and it can be launched and doused through the front hatch. At our club races we race in PHRF with a rating of 230. Good luck and I hope the ice melts soon! Ned Christensen Second Wind
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Scott Davis
Sym-spinnakers
Guys, I do not agree that a asm is quicker to jibe then a sym spinnaker. Here's the deal. The Asm-spinnakers are for cruising around and not for racing. If you are racing the boat, you need a sym-spinnaker. 60 deg off the wind will not cut it while racing. Here is your spinnaker spec's: "I" luff, use +- 10%, Set your pole length to the boats "J" measurement, You will need a mast ring, tracks are very nice, but not required. Mine is set at about 4 feet off the deck. Rig an uphaul and downhaul for the spinnaker pole, as you need to control how high/low the end of the pole is. If the pole go's up in a big gust you can broach the boat!!!! Another great trick is to run your downhaul line through a eye on the deck about 1'6" forward of the mast and back to the cockpit. When pulled tight, the pole will swing forward and stay up next to the sail. To jibe the sail, just take the pole off the ring, release the spinnaker sheet from the other end, swing across the deck and attach the other sheet, then just snap onto the mast ring. If your uphaul and downhaul and mounted in the center of the pole, it will remain level on both sides (I use a bow arrangement like the J-22's) Hope this helps you some. Check out the link below, look at the J-22 almost at the bottom. You will see the same pole setup I use. Its like a bow. shoot me an email if you need more info. Scott H23 "No Alibi" wsdavis@fmtc.net
Guys, I do not agree that a asm is quicker to jibe then a sym spinnaker. Here's the deal. The Asm-spinnakers are for cruising around and not for racing. If you are racing the boat, you need a sym-spinnaker. 60 deg off the wind will not cut it while racing. Here is your spinnaker spec's: "I" luff, use +- 10%, Set your pole length to the boats "J" measurement, You will need a mast ring, tracks are very nice, but not required. Mine is set at about 4 feet off the deck. Rig an uphaul and downhaul for the spinnaker pole, as you need to control how high/low the end of the pole is. If the pole go's up in a big gust you can broach the boat!!!! Another great trick is to run your downhaul line through a eye on the deck about 1'6" forward of the mast and back to the cockpit. When pulled tight, the pole will swing forward and stay up next to the sail. To jibe the sail, just take the pole off the ring, release the spinnaker sheet from the other end, swing across the deck and attach the other sheet, then just snap onto the mast ring. If your uphaul and downhaul and mounted in the center of the pole, it will remain level on both sides (I use a bow arrangement like the J-22's) Hope this helps you some. Check out the link below, look at the J-22 almost at the bottom. You will see the same pole setup I use. Its like a bow. shoot me an email if you need more info. Scott H23 "No Alibi" wsdavis@fmtc.net
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Butch Berchem
Small world
Eric, I was from White Bear Lake in a previous life. Whate type of sailing are you doing? Do you guys do around the bouys, phrf racing? Or just out having fun. If it's phrf go with a pole and spinnaker, if it's for fun do it with an aysmmetrical spinnaker. The 260 will perform better, or quicker going point to point dead down wind, hence the pole. However if more speed and longer tacks is ok the go with the cruising chute.
Eric, I was from White Bear Lake in a previous life. Whate type of sailing are you doing? Do you guys do around the bouys, phrf racing? Or just out having fun. If it's phrf go with a pole and spinnaker, if it's for fun do it with an aysmmetrical spinnaker. The 260 will perform better, or quicker going point to point dead down wind, hence the pole. However if more speed and longer tacks is ok the go with the cruising chute.
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kevin
going down wind
Do you guys ever bring up the center board when going down wind? We have been experimenting with it and noticed that we can reduce our drag considerably without the board going down wind. The boat still maintains good control and steers straight. Any other point of sail, of course we put it back down. Just wondering if anyone else had experimented w/ it?
Do you guys ever bring up the center board when going down wind? We have been experimenting with it and noticed that we can reduce our drag considerably without the board going down wind. The boat still maintains good control and steers straight. Any other point of sail, of course we put it back down. Just wondering if anyone else had experimented w/ it?
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eric
board up
Kevin, We have sailed with the board up on down winds and it does make a huge difference. we have noticed as much as 1 knot( could have been a puff involved, also)The only problem we have with that in our club is that the old PHRF rules did not allow that for racing. There is a new rule in effect now that may allow us to raise our board. I need to check with our handicap committee to get the entire rule to find out if we will be able to do it. The rulling has to do with the % of the weight of the centerboard and the weight of your ballast and how easy it is to raise the centerboard/swing keel. Any other ?'s You can contact me at erichegland@mediaone.net.
Kevin, We have sailed with the board up on down winds and it does make a huge difference. we have noticed as much as 1 knot( could have been a puff involved, also)The only problem we have with that in our club is that the old PHRF rules did not allow that for racing. There is a new rule in effect now that may allow us to raise our board. I need to check with our handicap committee to get the entire rule to find out if we will be able to do it. The rulling has to do with the % of the weight of the centerboard and the weight of your ballast and how easy it is to raise the centerboard/swing keel. Any other ?'s You can contact me at erichegland@mediaone.net.
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