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Feb 12, 2009
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Catalina 27 tall rig Tyler, TX
What's the rule of thumb for tipping a captain? I'm taking an advanced ASA class, and I was wondering that the protocol is. I always tip for say a fishing charter, but because I'll be a student, I was unsure about what is expected.
I'm taking the ASA 103/104 offshore/bareboat course. Its around $700 each for 3 days. There are a total of three students.
I like to know these things before I go so I can avoid looking like an ass.

Cheers,

Joe
 
Sep 29, 2008
78
Catalina 320 Buffalo
Joe - When I took lessons many years ago I simply called the school office & asked what the normal practice was. No big deal. I now teach sailing in Buffalo & and offering a gratuity in not a normal practice.
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Jan 2, 2005
779
Hunter 35.5 Legend Lake Travis-Austin,TX
Are you living aboard as a group and/or providing meals? I'd ask the others, but $75 is probably the max I'd go assuming he does a good job. Did a week long liveaboard in BVI years ago, same classes, 6 of us plus captain, we provided all meals, bought a few cocktails, etc. and I think we settled on $75ea that trip.
 
May 25, 2004
978
Catalina Capri 14.2 1670 Rochester, MN
My wife (a surgical nurse) states nobody ever tips her for saving their life. I feel that all service providers should charge a fee that includes all costs, including a decent salary for the help. It never would have entered our minds to consider a tip for the captain.
 

BobM

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Jun 10, 2004
3,269
S2 9.2A Winthrop, MA
For me I think it would depend on whether or not he was the owner. If you hire a Captain who is the owner of the company I wouldn't tip, but if the instructor is a separate contractor whom you felt did an excellent job 10% is the max for me. I tip more for wait staff, but that is because they don't make min. wage.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
When I finish a job I present my bill and once or twice a year the homeowner writes a check for a bit more than I asked. I thank them and tell them that they are very generous. I am never disappointed if they simply pay the bill at face value.
 
Jan 22, 2008
250
Cherubini 37c HULL#37 Alameda
What's the rule of thumb for tipping a captain? I'm taking an advanced ASA class, and I was wondering that the protocol is. I always tip for say a fishing charter, but because I'll be a student, I was unsure about what is expected.
I'm taking the ASA 103/104 offshore/bareboat course. Its around $700 each for 3 days. There are a total of three students.
I like to know these things before I go so I can avoid looking like an ass.

Cheers,

Joe
If you figure out how to not look like an ass, let me know !
 

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Jun 30, 2004
446
Hunter 340 St Andrews Bay
Bob, excuse me but I'm the captain. The bank, my wife and I own the vessel, and I am the company. NOBODY appreciates the tips more than me. If I have brought on crew or extras to make it a special charter, I hope to get a tip from my extra efforts. I try to keep Ross' attitude-happy to be paid in full, delighted to get a tip. And I know that I have done a good/better job when I do get a tip.
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BobM

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Jun 10, 2004
3,269
S2 9.2A Winthrop, MA
Sorry Andy! I am glad you appreciate the tips.

I meant it more from the perspective that the owner negotiates the price, while a hired hand doesn't. Therefore a hired hand gets the same pay whether they are nice or not, while the owner gets more custom if the price is right and the treatment is too.

If you are an owner/operator it is something of a gray area, but personally for me it would then depend on the price and the service. If I felt like I paid for class A and I got class B, then I would probably not tip. Conversely, if I clearly paid for class B and got class A+ I would certainly tip appropriately and be back next year!

For example, I hired a Captain to help me bring my boat around to Boston. He was very nice and proved to be quite helpful, but not very mechanically inclined and made an simple error in navigation on the trip that was avoidable. His cost was mid-range, but based on his input I spent nearly $2000 and a month making repairs to the boat that, in hindsight were perhaps unnecessary and delayed the trip. He was quite fair, and refunded a small portion of the fee to reflect the extra time cost due to the error, which I appreciated. I ultimately didn't tip him, but sent a framed photo of a nice picture I took on the trip in appreciation.

I strongly prefer to work with owner/operators because I like to know who I am doing business with. I prefer to have a relationship based on mutual trust and a reasonable estimate, with an understanding that adjustments may be necessary. I agreed to pay my roofer an additional $1400 as he had to get a third dumpster and put extra time and effort into the job...but he doesn't get that money until he fixes a few unsatisfactory things he and I discussed after we looked things over together ;-)
 

TimCup

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Jan 30, 2008
304
Catalina 22 St. Pete
Bob, you sound like a perfectly reasonable man...

and to Joe, I'd say go with your gut. I tip when I get a sense that the service I'm getting is better than normal expectation. If I would later resent paying a tip to someone I felt didn't deserve one, I don't tip; and I don't care if I'm thought to be an ass.

On the other hand, when I am blown away by service, and attitude, I tip whether it's typical or not. I usually reward the "extra mile".

cup
 
Oct 2, 2006
1,517
Jboat J24 commack
Well

When i worked in and Oyster Bay yard way back in 1974 RULE ONE was do not take tips as it creates issues with the costumer expecting SPECIAL service in the future OVER other costumers because they might TIP better
 
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