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mmm okay I am getting the picture now. Thanks for drawing it out for us. Must have been a PITA. I don't think your capsize concerns from the weight aloft would be an issue for any keelboat or centerboard/daggerboard sailboat with any singnificant amount of ballast. With 1200# of ballast in the wing keel, I feel certain that the 240 would be upright through any MOB experience. Thanks again, and Pictures would be great. Good winds, Eric
mmm okay I am getting the picture now. Thanks for drawing it out for us. Must have been a PITA. I don't think your capsize concerns from the weight aloft would be an issue for any keelboat or centerboard/daggerboard sailboat with any singnificant amount of ballast. With 1200# of ballast in the wing keel, I feel certain that the 240 would be upright through any MOB experience. Thanks again, and Pictures would be great. Good winds, Eric
"Works For Me."
When out alone, I run a 3/8" safety line from the bow pulpit to the stern pulpit. At the widest beam of the boat that line when pulled tight in the middle will drape over top of the life line about 6". On that safety line I have a double in line 1/2" shive, swivel in the middle block (Similar to what you have on your traveler). My safety harness has a 6' tether which I attach to a 25' length of 3/8" line giving me 31' of line. In dividing that overall length equally after running it thru the block, I make a stop knot at 15-1/2' on the aft trailing side of the block and tie a knot every 2' on the remaining length of line until I get to the end where I attach a small fender. If under way and having to go forward, I toss the fender over the life line and move forward. The fender pulls the line out taking up the slack, mean while I have 15-1/2' of line/tether to move fore and aft. Should I go overboard, it will probably be over the life lines. When in the water, the stop knot hits the block, I should now be equal distant with the fender and use a hand over hand motion grabbing the knots pulling myself back to the hull of the boat. Facing the hull, with my left hand I reach up high grabbing a knot and bring my knees to my chest with both knees against the hull loop the trailing length of rope under my two feet with my right hand and reach up with the rope in my right hand to where my left hand is and pull myself to a standing position. At this point you should be knee deep in water. Move your left hand up the knotted line, pull your self up at the same time advancing your right hand up that knotted line with extra length of rope. Both knees still against the hull. You should move up about 6 to 8" at a time until you can hook a foot over the rail and roll back on the deck. NOTE: I run the safety line fore/aft to the port side of my mast and this is the side I normally work off of when on deck. I have demostrated this several times and have been told it looks like rock climbing. Works For Me!
When out alone, I run a 3/8" safety line from the bow pulpit to the stern pulpit. At the widest beam of the boat that line when pulled tight in the middle will drape over top of the life line about 6". On that safety line I have a double in line 1/2" shive, swivel in the middle block (Similar to what you have on your traveler). My safety harness has a 6' tether which I attach to a 25' length of 3/8" line giving me 31' of line. In dividing that overall length equally after running it thru the block, I make a stop knot at 15-1/2' on the aft trailing side of the block and tie a knot every 2' on the remaining length of line until I get to the end where I attach a small fender. If under way and having to go forward, I toss the fender over the life line and move forward. The fender pulls the line out taking up the slack, mean while I have 15-1/2' of line/tether to move fore and aft. Should I go overboard, it will probably be over the life lines. When in the water, the stop knot hits the block, I should now be equal distant with the fender and use a hand over hand motion grabbing the knots pulling myself back to the hull of the boat. Facing the hull, with my left hand I reach up high grabbing a knot and bring my knees to my chest with both knees against the hull loop the trailing length of rope under my two feet with my right hand and reach up with the rope in my right hand to where my left hand is and pull myself to a standing position. At this point you should be knee deep in water. Move your left hand up the knotted line, pull your self up at the same time advancing your right hand up that knotted line with extra length of rope. Both knees still against the hull. You should move up about 6 to 8" at a time until you can hook a foot over the rail and roll back on the deck. NOTE: I run the safety line fore/aft to the port side of my mast and this is the side I normally work off of when on deck. I have demostrated this several times and have been told it looks like rock climbing. Works For Me!
It was not fun for one.
A few years ago, a 17 foot speedboat and my 27 foot sailboat went out fishing and we atarted at one end of the area and the other boat went about 1 mile further up the coast. The water temperature is 49 degrees fairenheit plus or minus 3 degrees for the entire year. We set our lines and began fishing and the woman with me asked where her huaband and boys had gone. I pointed ahead and she went on to the foredeck to look. On her way back, she lost her footing and grabbed the life line rather than the granny bar and went overboard. I immediately put the engine into neutral, but continued to drift. On any previous trips, she had worn a cruiser suit, but not this time as it was sunny; warm with no wind. I immediately threw over a life ring and cruiser suit, but I was not able to put the boat in reverse as the prop walk could have driven the line or downrigger cable into the propeller (inboard) which would give me no possibility of getting back to her. When luck is on your side, strangly enough the other boat phoned as a joke to ask if we had caught anything yet. I quickly said get back here as she has gone overboard. She was able to swim to the side of my boat withing a minute, but hypothermia was starting to take its toll. I wrapped a jib sheet around her and dropped the stern ladder, but she refused to go to the ladder. Instead she tried to climb up onto the small outboard on a stern bracket with no success. The other boat arrived in less than 5 minutes and they pulled her on board their vessel, but she had only one intention, to get back onto the sailboat. She would have walked across the water to get back on board. Her husband then took her inside, took her clothes off and put her in a cruiser suit to warm her up in front of the deisel hot water forced air heater. Arriving back at the marina in about 20 minutes, he took her to a luke warm bath and slowly warmed her up as she was in a mild hypothermic condition and not severe (my understanding is that in a severe condition, the patient should be warned up slowly from the inside {warm fluids} so that all the blood does not rush to the body extremities supplying the heart with no blood). Even with luke warm bath water, she screamed because she thought she was being burnt with scalding water. She said she thought it was over for her when she saw the boat drift away (about 200 feet) from her and she had nightmares for six months. She did not know she was tied by the jib sheet nor that she had put the life ring on. Changes that have occurred are that she puts the cruiser suit on before she gets into a boat, no matter what the weather or wears an inflatable PFD. On the sailboat, I added a second life ring so that both heels would have a ring easily accessible and I have added a longer quick release safety line (there were already 2, but only 4 feet long for rough weather sail changes) which is used to connect a person's belt to a life line. The quick release snap is there to pass by stanchions. Lessons learned: It can happen to anyone as this woman had 20 years experience and Hypothermia is really scarey. Everyone on board should know what to do in the case of an emergency because it could have been me overboard rather than her. I now use a safety line whenever I leave the cockpit as it is only a minor inconvenience and I know I would never get back on board without being secured to the boat because the autohelm would just keep the boat going away from me. When something goes wrong, ask for help imediately as only a short delay in this specific incident could have been more dramatic or even fatal. Lastly, you paid for the PFD so do not admire it, use it as I always wear a cruiser jacket as it keeps me warm and there is always the chance that it will be used to save a life: Mine
A few years ago, a 17 foot speedboat and my 27 foot sailboat went out fishing and we atarted at one end of the area and the other boat went about 1 mile further up the coast. The water temperature is 49 degrees fairenheit plus or minus 3 degrees for the entire year. We set our lines and began fishing and the woman with me asked where her huaband and boys had gone. I pointed ahead and she went on to the foredeck to look. On her way back, she lost her footing and grabbed the life line rather than the granny bar and went overboard. I immediately put the engine into neutral, but continued to drift. On any previous trips, she had worn a cruiser suit, but not this time as it was sunny; warm with no wind. I immediately threw over a life ring and cruiser suit, but I was not able to put the boat in reverse as the prop walk could have driven the line or downrigger cable into the propeller (inboard) which would give me no possibility of getting back to her. When luck is on your side, strangly enough the other boat phoned as a joke to ask if we had caught anything yet. I quickly said get back here as she has gone overboard. She was able to swim to the side of my boat withing a minute, but hypothermia was starting to take its toll. I wrapped a jib sheet around her and dropped the stern ladder, but she refused to go to the ladder. Instead she tried to climb up onto the small outboard on a stern bracket with no success. The other boat arrived in less than 5 minutes and they pulled her on board their vessel, but she had only one intention, to get back onto the sailboat. She would have walked across the water to get back on board. Her husband then took her inside, took her clothes off and put her in a cruiser suit to warm her up in front of the deisel hot water forced air heater. Arriving back at the marina in about 20 minutes, he took her to a luke warm bath and slowly warmed her up as she was in a mild hypothermic condition and not severe (my understanding is that in a severe condition, the patient should be warned up slowly from the inside {warm fluids} so that all the blood does not rush to the body extremities supplying the heart with no blood). Even with luke warm bath water, she screamed because she thought she was being burnt with scalding water. She said she thought it was over for her when she saw the boat drift away (about 200 feet) from her and she had nightmares for six months. She did not know she was tied by the jib sheet nor that she had put the life ring on. Changes that have occurred are that she puts the cruiser suit on before she gets into a boat, no matter what the weather or wears an inflatable PFD. On the sailboat, I added a second life ring so that both heels would have a ring easily accessible and I have added a longer quick release safety line (there were already 2, but only 4 feet long for rough weather sail changes) which is used to connect a person's belt to a life line. The quick release snap is there to pass by stanchions. Lessons learned: It can happen to anyone as this woman had 20 years experience and Hypothermia is really scarey. Everyone on board should know what to do in the case of an emergency because it could have been me overboard rather than her. I now use a safety line whenever I leave the cockpit as it is only a minor inconvenience and I know I would never get back on board without being secured to the boat because the autohelm would just keep the boat going away from me. When something goes wrong, ask for help imediately as only a short delay in this specific incident could have been more dramatic or even fatal. Lastly, you paid for the PFD so do not admire it, use it as I always wear a cruiser jacket as it keeps me warm and there is always the chance that it will be used to save a life: Mine
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Bob W. Since it is close to Thanksgiving ahhhh well it seems appropriate to quote Arlo Guthrie on this post. "He had 8 by 10 glossy pictures with a paragraph on the back of each one"...Alice's Restaurant. Please, I cant envision your MOB proceedure. Good winds, Eric
Bob W. Since it is close to Thanksgiving ahhhh well it seems appropriate to quote Arlo Guthrie on this post. "He had 8 by 10 glossy pictures with a paragraph on the back of each one"...Alice's Restaurant. Please, I cant envision your MOB proceedure. Good winds, Eric
Me neither Eric.
How do you let your boat travel 200 feet away from a MOB in broad daylight and calm conditions? If lines were thrown in the water for the MOB to reach, but they prevent any type of return, DON'T DO THAT! Only eject flotation devices. The Lifesling style retrieval only begins after circling the MOB. Nope, still don't get it. P.S. OK, I see that the line you are talking about is for fishing. How about casting it off or just go around in a circle?
How do you let your boat travel 200 feet away from a MOB in broad daylight and calm conditions? If lines were thrown in the water for the MOB to reach, but they prevent any type of return, DON'T DO THAT! Only eject flotation devices. The Lifesling style retrieval only begins after circling the MOB. Nope, still don't get it. P.S. OK, I see that the line you are talking about is for fishing. How about casting it off or just go around in a circle?
Cap'n Remo
Interesting subject. I am currently bringing to market a radio controlled device (Cap’n Remo) which will remotely steer a tiller steered boat. I have used it for both motoring and sailing. Going forward to set a whisker pole, going below decks to use the head, and docking/mooring from the bow. I single hand a lot, and at 60 years+ I am not as nimble as I used to be. So in an overboard mis-adventure I would surface, gather my transmitter (from around my neck lanyard), and steer my boat into the wind. Cap’n Remo (with a range of about 250ft,) will not as yet throw you a line, but at least he gives you a fighting chance. We will soon develop a web sight (mid December) and we invite you to check us out at (www.capnremo.com). Peace and joy though all your holidays- Tom and Pam Altland.
Interesting subject. I am currently bringing to market a radio controlled device (Cap’n Remo) which will remotely steer a tiller steered boat. I have used it for both motoring and sailing. Going forward to set a whisker pole, going below decks to use the head, and docking/mooring from the bow. I single hand a lot, and at 60 years+ I am not as nimble as I used to be. So in an overboard mis-adventure I would surface, gather my transmitter (from around my neck lanyard), and steer my boat into the wind. Cap’n Remo (with a range of about 250ft,) will not as yet throw you a line, but at least he gives you a fighting chance. We will soon develop a web sight (mid December) and we invite you to check us out at (www.capnremo.com). Peace and joy though all your holidays- Tom and Pam Altland.
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I'd like to suggest that it's worth reading the item on MOB in the December 2005 edition of "Sail" magazine. Of particular interest is the comment that the boarding/swim ladder would be all but useless, and perhaps even lethal, in getting someone back aboard in a significant sea state. One still has to wonder what is the "best" course of action if you were alone.... Take care out there, folks. Warren
I'd like to suggest that it's worth reading the item on MOB in the December 2005 edition of "Sail" magazine. Of particular interest is the comment that the boarding/swim ladder would be all but useless, and perhaps even lethal, in getting someone back aboard in a significant sea state. One still has to wonder what is the "best" course of action if you were alone.... Take care out there, folks. Warren
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