God protects children, drunks, and fools.

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Jun 12, 2010
936
Oday 22 Orleans Marina, NOLA
I’m not saying which one I am.

Forecast was for high of 74F, mostly sunny 5-10mph, waves 1-2 feet, just what I like – it was going to be a good day. Weather channel on the VHF reported SE 10kts at the airport which my marina is adjacent to – perfect for the south shore of Lake P – waves should be minimal.

I start out with main only on a close reach, wind and waves are more than forecast but it’s not a problem. I raise the jib and after a while the winds are at the top end of what I‘m comfortable with for full sails. But I expect the winds to slowly let off because the forecast for the evening was 5kts, down from 5-10, so I’m enjoying the windy, wave-crashing ride.

The wind escalates further and is whistling through the rigging. I start to feel a bit overpowered so I drop the jib, easy since I installed a downhaul, and once again I feel under control. I turn on the weather again and they still report 10kts, odd, I thought these were real time reports but my Wind Wizard says 25mph. That’s apparent, but I’m only going 3 kts, so at least 20mph winds. The waves are getting aggressive, I’m 2 hours into the sail, about 2.5 miles from shore and 6 miles down range; I decide to turn downwind for an expected easy ride.

After the downwind turn the main is plastered against the spreaders, so I trim it in so it just off them, I’m making 5kts, nearly hull speed, with following seas, and I’m at last comfortable.

Then I notice a small tear in the main, about 2 inches long, 2 feet above the foot and 2 feet back from the leech. It’s not getting worse, I can patch that after I get in. But that’s nothing, I looked down at the backstay – I could not believe it – it’s completely frayed with only six tiny strands holding it together. Holy Smoke, I need to drop sail now, but I don’t want to turn into the wind and increase stress on the rig, so I head DDW and center the boom by attaching my pig-tail topping lift and pulling the mainsheet in tight. This effectively gives me a temporary backstay, but the sail must come down – so I release the halyard and pull the main down by hand – not that difficult on my boat, but doing all this while the auto-tiller is failing to keep me pointed downwind, and the steep chop threatening to toss me out the boat altogether. Once the main is down I tie the main halyard to the left over end of the jib down haul and tie that off to form a new backstay.

Close call but it’s now safe, except a direct course back home puts me sideways to the short chop – not a good idea, especially with no sails up, so I head into shore first, which puts me no closer home but will give me a better angle to the waves, and the chop should lessen as I approach the windward shoreline, and at about three quarters of a mile offshore the chop subsided considerably.

At this time I would like to thank my 1972 7.5 Mercury 2-stoke; it pushed me thought some pretty heavy chop for over 3 hours like it had nothing better to do, what a great little motor.

So I’m grounded until I repair the backstay and inspect the remainder of the standing rigging, – can’t believe how close I was to losing the mast in that windy choppy mess of a day.



So anyone know a rigging shop they like on the south shore of Lake Pontchartrain?
 
Oct 29, 2005
2,363
Hunter Marine 326 303 Singapore
kpgraci, I don't get it. You've a failing backstay and yet you headed DDW with mainsheet & topping tighten? Wouldn't that put more strain on the backstay the moment you ease off the mains halyard? I would have thought heading into wind would relieve pressure on backstay. I've B&R so backstay is new experience to me. Thanks.
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,062
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
Glad you came through without _real_ drama! Well written, too.
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
AMEN brother!
God is in control and arn't you glad those engineers used a safety factor?
Your pic looks like all the strands seperated at the same place so I'm thinking you have a "firend" at the marina that really wants to win the next race or something scratched the backstay and nicked those strands. Cables normally don't have their strands all go at the exact (like a cut) same level.
 
Oct 26, 2005
2,057
- - Satellite Beach, FL.
Good job on keeping things together Ken!
Do you think that it might part that was if the wire had been kinked at some point in the past?
 
Jun 12, 2010
936
Oday 22 Orleans Marina, NOLA
kpgraci, I don't get it. You've a failing backstay and yet you headed DDW with mainsheet & topping tighten? Wouldn't that put more strain on the backstay the moment you ease off the mains halyard? I would have thought heading into wind would relieve pressure on backstay. I've B&R so backstay is new experience to me. Thanks.
My topping lift is a 12 inch pig-tail attached to the backstay just above boom level. Hooking the boom to it and tightening the mainsheet relieved pressure on the frayed portion below it. As far as turning into the wind I was very concerned about actually being able to make the turn with the seas and wind pushing on the hull as they were - I decided to stay the course and I knew I could drop the main even while going downwind.
 
Jun 12, 2010
936
Oday 22 Orleans Marina, NOLA
Good job on keeping things together Ken!
Do you think that it might part that was if the wire had been kinked at some point in the past?
There was a kink there, as I recall...so let's see, I'm over 50 and did not start drinking until after I got back in that day, so what does that leave? :D
 
Jul 28, 2010
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Boston Whaler Montauk New Orleans
There was a kink there, as I recall...so let's see, I'm over 50 and did not start drinking until after I got back in that day, so what does that leave? :D
That's your problem. You weren't drinking enough! ;)

Does North Sails or Sintes still have a presence on the south shore? Mayer Yachts also does sailboat repairs. They could probably put you on to a rigger. I'll ask around and see who might be able to help.
 
Sep 15, 2011
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Catalina 22 Savannah, GA
Glad to hear you made it back safe and that was a close one. I looking at that fray I would suggest two things:

1 - Keep an eye out for whoever wants to kill you.
2- Buy a lotto ticket because you're a lucky man.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,223
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Just a techincal note here, the pigtail is not a topping lift. It's simply a convenience to hold the boom in place amidship. Check it's connection to the backstay for damage due to the boom's swinging. A true topping lift supports the boom independent of the backstay and will allow the spar to swing out to any position.

As for your experience, it sounds like you handled it well... keep in mind that the main halyard, attached to the back of the boom, under controll of the mainsheet, would support the mast also.... allowing you to hoist the jib and sail downwind to your destination.

These kinds of experiences make us better sailors, congratulations.
 
Jun 12, 2010
936
Oday 22 Orleans Marina, NOLA
... keep in mind that the main halyard, attached to the back of the boom, under controll of the mainsheet, would support the mast also.... allowing you to hoist the jib and sail downwind to your destination.
I had a passing thought of hoisting the jib, but I don't have a furler so I would have to turn into the wind, and being a bit frazzled from the experience I was just glad to have the sails down. In hindsight that would have been a good idea, but I thought I would have better control with the motor only - but not really - that was a rough ride. I don't plan on there being a next time but I'll definitely keep that in mind.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,223
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I had a passing thought of hoisting the jib, but I don't have a furler so I would have to turn into the wind, and being a bit frazzled from the experience I was just glad to have the sails down. In hindsight that would have been a good idea, but I thought I would have better control with the motor only - but not really - that was a rough ride. I don't plan on there being a next time but I'll definitely keep that in mind.
Sounds like some good things to practice next time you're out.
 

JohnS

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Sep 25, 2008
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Islander (Wayfarer/McGlasson) 32 St Georges Harbor
A common cause of kinked shrouds and bent turnbuckles on boats with hinged mast steps is raising the mast too quickly (trying to get it vertical to lighten the lifting load) without making sure the turnbuckle and shrouds aren't hanging up. Always a good idea to have a person on hand to keep an eye on them and straighten things out as the mast goes up. Also, if your shrouds have a lot of twist held in place by pinned turnbuckles, when you raise the mast, a loop in the shroud could draw up tight and kink. Might be good to, with the mast up, go around to each shroud and loosen the turnbuckle (counting turns) until slack, allow the shroud to relax it's twist, and then re-tighten being sure to keep the shroud from turning, then re-pin. Might make the next mast-raising go a little smoother.
 
Oct 26, 2005
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There was a kink there, as I recall...so let's see, I'm over 50 and did not start drinking until after I got back in that day, so what does that leave? :D
I reread my post and it sounded like I'd had a few beers for breakfast!
 
Jun 12, 2010
936
Oday 22 Orleans Marina, NOLA
A common cause of kinked shrouds and bent turnbuckles on boats with hinged mast steps is raising the mast too quickly (trying to get it vertical to lighten the lifting load) without making sure the turnbuckle and shrouds aren't hanging up.
You know your stuff. I don't raise the mast on my trailerable boat often as I keep it at a marina (done it twice, with a third time coming up), but I have a bent shaft on a shroud turnbuckle - I always wondered how one of the PO's did that - must have taken a LOT of force to bend if (it will be replaced).

I also never gave the kink in the backstay a second thought - my mistake, pay attention you trailer sailors.
 
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