Give a Mouse a Cookie

[pafb19]

Working on my O'Day 28 reminds me of the classic childrens bedtime book I used to read to my own kids..."if you give a mouse a cookie he'll want a glass of milk" and so on and so on. That same thought process applies to my boat...if you re-bed the genoa track you'll want to redo the nonskid! And so it goes with just about every project on my floating bastion of solace. My current effort to refurbish the cabin interior has me running into somewhat of a stumbling block. As I progress through the cabin refurbishing it has now become apparent the aging, sagging hull liner needs to be replaced. I have read countless forums on a variety of web sites; followed untold number of links to various companies only to come to the conclusion that, at least in my research, there doesn't seem to be any definitive answer on a product to use as a hull liner. Specifically I am looking for a foam backed carpet material. There are some companies (not many) that do sell foam backed hull liners but the color choices are limited/bland. There is a multitude of automotive supplier
that sell headliner material in a variety of colors - will that product work on a hull? I know that many boat owners have used carpet as a hull liner replacement but I am concerned about the ability of the carpet to adhere over the long term to the hull wall without that foam backing. I am also concerned about the glue seeping thru without that proper backing. Any advice or direction on this seemingly simple problem/project would be appreciated.

 

[Joe11688]

Working on my O'Day 28 reminds me of the classic childrens bedtime book I used to read to my own kids..."if you give a mouse a cookie he'll want a glass of milk" and so on and so on. That same thought process applies to my boat...if you re-bed the genoa track you'll want to redo the nonskid! And so it goes with just about every project on my floating bastion of solace. My current effort to refurbish the cabin interior has me running into somewhat of a stumbling block. As I progress through the cabin refurbishing it has now become apparent the aging, sagging hull liner needs to be replaced. I have read countless forums on a variety of web sites; followed untold number of links to various companies only to come to the conclusion that, at least in my research, there doesn't seem to be any definitive answer on a product to use as a hull liner. Specifically I am looking for a foam backed carpet material. There are some companies (not many) that do sell foam backed hull liners but the color choices are limited/bland. There is a multitude of automotive supplier
that sell headliner material in a variety of colors - will that product work on a hull? I know that many boat owners have used carpet as a hull liner replacement but I am concerned about the ability of the carpet to adhere over the long term to the hull wall without that foam backing. I am also concerned about the glue seeping thru without that proper backing. Any advice or direction on this seemingly simple problem/project would be appreciated.

Check out a book entitled, "Fitting Out Your Boat" by Michael Naujok.
I happened to run across this book at our public library and I looked it over and found a lot great info on hull liners and how to apply them. The book is loaded with plenty of colored illustrations.
My 1986 O'Day has this fabric head liner and when I bought her new, the company furnished me with a one or two square foot of extra material.
I really can't tell you much about it except that it seals out condensation and gives the cabin a warming effect. I'm almost certain that this book can furnish you with the answers you seek though.

 

[Shoaldrafter]

Mouse in cabin

Working on my O'Day 28 reminds me of the classic childrens bedtime book I used to read to my own kids..."if you give a mouse a cookie he'll want a glass of milk" and so on and so on. That same thought process applies to my boat...if you re-bed the genoa track you'll want to redo the nonskid! And so it goes with just about every project on my floating bastion of solace. My current effort to refurbish the cabin interior has me running into somewhat of a stumbling block. As I progress through the cabin refurbishing it has now become apparent the aging, sagging hull liner needs to be replaced. I have read countless forums on a variety of web sites; followed untold number of links to various companies only to come to the conclusion that, at least in my research, there doesn't seem to be any definitive answer on a product to use as a hull liner. Specifically I am looking for a foam backed carpet material. There are some companies (not many) that do sell foam backed hull liners but the color choices are limited/bland. There is a multitude of automotive supplier
that sell headliner material in a variety of colors - will that product work on a hull? I know that many boat owners have used carpet as a hull liner replacement but I am concerned about the ability of the carpet to adhere over the long term to the hull wall without that foam backing. I am also concerned about the glue seeping thru without that proper backing. Any advice or direction on this seemingly simple problem/project would be appreciated.

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While I have not had the need to replace a cabin top liner I have repaired the wall liners using Henry mastic from Home Depot or Lowes and it did good job with no bleed thru.

The problem was keeping it in place while the mastic cured. I made several expanders using 2 x 4's and threaded rods to hold strips of plywood to hold it in place.

Consider glueing in thin styro foam sheets then putting your fabric or vinyl over that using fabric or vinyl that comes with a glue backing.

Or, after you get to hard surface, just use a thicken paste like thickened epoxy to paint a new surface. Fair out to smooth surface and cover with the sticky back vinyl.

Or use mastic to hold thin strips of wood as new ceiling, very nautical.

Send us some pictures.

Ed K

 

[RichBone]

The carpet-like headliner material is what I used when I replaced my hull liner. Looks and works great. It's what several of us on this forum have used. I used a spray-on adhesive. The material stretches a little so you can push it into and around corners.

Rich

 

[Maine Sail]

Working on my O'Day 28 reminds me of the classic childrens bedtime book I used to read to my own kids..."if you give a mouse a cookie he'll want a glass of milk" and so on and so on.

I'm still reading those books except now there's; "If You Give A Moose A Muffin" and "If You Give A Pig A Pancake" too... My daughter loves them and yes they are similar to a boat.....

 

[pipes111]

I used some outdoor carpet from Lowe's along with mastic to redo the interior of our 23. It's only been done a year, so we'll see how long it lasts. Reasonable price, and plenty of colors to choose from.

 

[heymagic]

Funny! I was making a list of things I need to do on this (new to me) boat before spring. The mouse and cookie analogy brought a smile to my face on the Grampa level as well. Ya' didn't need to bring the dang headliner to my attention though. Grump....Harump...another addition to the squawk list!
MikeB

 

[emergpa1]

The carpet-like headliner material is what I used when I replaced my hull liner. Looks and works great. It's what several of us on this forum have used. I used a spray-on adhesive. The material stretches a little so you can push it into and around corners.

Rich

This is the supplier I used. http://www.yourautotrim.com/marboatcar.html

There r some great threads on hull liners and cabin liners in the o'day owners threads.

It is really worth the effort. And not hard if you get the right material: thin, stretchy, and flexible. Outdoor carpet is not stretchy enough IMHO.

Keith

 

[Shoaldrafter]

Maestro

The carpet-like headliner material is what I used when I replaced my hull liner. Looks and works great. It's what several of us on this forum have used. I used a spray-on adhesive. The material stretches a little so you can push it into and around corners.

Rich

Rich the Maestro

Ed K

 

[pafb19]

I'm still reading those books except now there's; "If You Give A Moose A Muffin" and "If You Give A Pig A Pancake" too... My daughter loves them and yes they are similar to a boat.....

Maine Sail - Thanks for the reply but more importantly a debt of gratitude for your superb detailed instructions on re-bedding deck hardware. I had to re-bed my genoa tracks and I followed your instructions to the letter and that project turned out terrific. "Bravo Zulu" Maine Sail.

 

[pafb19]

Rich the Maestro

Ed K

WOW! That is exactly the look I'm seeking. I think I found the same material as you but with a hint of blue in it. Just found and the company is sending me a sample. Thanks so much!

 

[Maine Sail]

Maine Sail - Thanks for the reply but more importantly a debt of gratitude for your superb detailed instructions on re-bedding deck hardware. I had to re-bed my genoa tracks and I followed your instructions to the letter and that project turned out terrific. "Bravo Zulu" Maine Sail.

Always glad I could help. Did I ship you tape? I never know who customers are because I don't see a screen name with an order just a real name. Tough to know who's who..

 

[RichBone]

Is this the fabric?- http://www.yourautotrim.com/huhfa.html

This is the adhesive I used- http://www.yourautotrim.com/perhittrimad.html

Let us know if you need any tips on installation

Rich