Genoa self furler and two other jibs.

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Charlie

I bought my O'Day 25 several years ago and it came with a working jib, a small storm jib, and a self furling genoa with its own fore stay. Is it possible to rig the boat to carry both the self furling genoa AND either of the smaller jibs at my discretion, or do I have to choose to use the genoa's forestay OR the fore stay that supports the other two jibs. There are 3 possibilities on my forward cleat, the aft one has a pully already bolted on. The forstay which I have used for the working jib (and storm jib) is too short to go to the forward cleat, but there doesn't seem to be room to rig two forestays, the genoa forward, and the other forestsay aft of it, and still have room for the self furling mechanism to work. My harbor captain, who is much more experianced than I, and his crew, are very much in the dark about this. Why should the original owners have perchashed two sails (a working jib and a smaller storm jib) which could not be raised if the boat was rigged to carry the self furling genoa? Should not all these sails be available? and if so, how should the forestays be rigged to accomodate them? Charlie in Vermont
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Charlie I am a bit confused ...

I am assuming that you have three jibs. Two are hank on and one is set-up for roller furling. Am I correct? It could be that the previous owner had three sails and only had the genoa set up for furling. r.w.landau
 
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bruce cornell

try it

with the extra forestay, you could set up two sails for wing/wing setup for down wind runs using the furled op port and hanked on starboard, etc. try it, it is your boat and look at it as a learning experience. my boat has a furler and empty forestay that can be used like you have, but will have to run an extra jib sheet to try it.
 
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CHarlie in Vermont

THanks

I'm going to experiment. I'll have to rearrange the stays at the mast head, since I think the Genoa should be most forward, but it would cross the 2nd stay as things are now set up. You give me confidance, thanks for your input. Happy sailing.
 
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Charlie in Vermont

Thanks

Yes, I have three jibs. A standard, a storm (both hanked on) and a self furling genoa. Like the ones now on special, it has a clamp that attaches to the fore stay and there is a halyard to haul it up, but it bows out from the forestay that way so I haven't used it for three years. What I want to do is use the genoa's stay AND the other stay both, so that I can use whichever jib I chose depending on conditions. That means I will have to alter the configuration at the masthead so that the genoa stay does not cross the other stay, and at the bow so there is enough room for the self furling drum. I think it will work. I hope this is clear. I'm going to experiment with it before Iput up the mast (and good Lord, its already mid June!!!) Thanks for replying.
 
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Doug

good question

I have been poundering the same question with my new mariner. To add to the confusion my boat came with a spinnaker, but no rigging. I have been asking around and have not found any good solutions. Its not fun pulling that roller reafing stuff off to run up another jib.
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Charlie,

I think that the previous owner owned three sails. When he chose to install the furler, He had the genoa reworked to fit the furler. The other two sails were probably then never used after that because the price to rework them to fit the furler was too high. I am assuming that to pull the other fore stay up with your jib halyard? I do have a drifter that a local sail maker said that the luff was strong enought to attach at the head and tack without hanking on but would only be good in light air. I did remove the hanks and fly it on light air days. r.w.landau
 
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bruce cornell

doug...

if you use a furling system like the harken 435, it is easier to change sails. these furlers are available used for less than $50 for a set, made over last 20 years. just detach the sheet and reattach next sail, lay furled sail on the deck.
 
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