Garmin 541/546 vs. Raymarine Chartplotter

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May 8, 2010
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S2 11.0A Racine, WI
I have been looking at getting a Garmin GPS for a few years now. I saw a 400 series a few years back really thought it was as close to a "windows" computer as I am used to using. everything just seems really easy to get to. The price I am seeing is $735 for the 546 (no sonar). I have been searching for hours trying to figure out what all the numbers meant in Garmin... 521, 536, 551, etc... I think I figured out that since I am lake michigan that I need the 541 or 546.

I basically want the GPS to guide me to locations around lake michigan. I understand how to use paper charts with a hand held using lat and longitude to plot my course. I dont use the stars, moon, sun, or any other instrument to help me, so the Gps is what I use to get places. I have a Garmin Colorado, but I cant get it to point me in the right direction or orient me where I want to go. I have screwed around with it, but I cant get it to do what I want.

Now the questions..
541 vs 546? is it worth the extra $200 for better resolution? does it really make that much difference?

Maybe a raymarine? I have the Raymarine 60+ wind, depth, and speed (3 individual) gauges. Is there some way I could use these to interface with a raymarine chartplotter? I haven't gotten to really play with any raymarine chartplotters so I have no idea if they are any thing like a Garmin. What Raymarine would be similar to the Garmin 541/546?

I am also a bit confused on whether as a sailboater I need a Sonar. It seems that is a fancy word for fishfinder. With the Vision cards for garmin is there any reason to have sonar? the vision cards show you the contours ( I know they are not live views) but if I just look at the charts and stay away from shallow areas does a sonar have any use? Since the St60+ is showing me depth live and the Vision card would be showing what is ahead I couldnt see having a live view of the bottom doing anything usefull. Even if I was going to hit somthing ahead does the sonar reach out far enough to give you time to correct?

OK lots of questions here. Sorry for the long post. As you can see I am new to this type of Gps and am just looking for general help on what to get before dropping $700+ on something that others might really understand. I will probably be posting more questions as replies come in. I know we have all been there trying to get info from people who are really using the stuff in the water. ANY info is helpful for me while getting ready to make this choice.

Thanks for any help.
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,341
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
I don't know any sailor who has a forward looking sonar and frankly, anything of any utility would cost a fortune. The only critical consideration when choosing a chartplotter is visibility in bright sunlight; other than that, it's purely a matter of personal preference which you choose.
The best advice I can give is to go to your local marine store and look for yourself what the differences are among the myriad of choices and pick the one you like best.

They all do the same thing, the same way.
 

Joe A

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Feb 4, 2008
117
Macgregor 26S Lake Wallenpaupack / EastCoast
i love my 546S but you dont want that

I was using a laptop with SeaClearII until I sprang for the 546S. Very usable in direct sunlight and only draws about a quarter to a half an amp most of the time. I love it. I mounted it on a swivel TV mount in the companionway so I can use it either outside or inside. Since it has the coastal charts it is NOT the one for you. You need a different model that has the inland lakes and rivers. Go to Garmin's website to figure out which (i think it's the 536) has the charts you need. The sonar (S) doesn't cost that much to add so I did. Since you'll likely have it for a long time, I would recommend paying for the higher resolution. Just make sure it has the sunlight readable coating like Don said.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,050
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
I have been using the 545 now for a couple of years.. and I really like it. The 546 is basically an improved 545 .. I decided on the better screen because of old eyes and I would do it again. A couple of years ago, the 545 was for coastal use and another number was for inland lakes .. my only problem with it has been the maps aren't 100% tied to reality. The vector chart translations in the vicinity of Slidell, Louisiana are off by 75 yards or so on my unit.. (yes, I have upgraded the software a couple of times) There are probably some other shifted maps, but I haven't found them yet. The SeaClear running on the laptop on raster charts showed the world correctly while the Garmin was showing me out in the marsh instead of in the channel.
Ilike the Garmin/human interface better than the others. Prior, I was using LORAN and paper charts, and a little handheld Garmin as backup.
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
4,004
Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
I like having the sonar on my Garmin 398. I like the shallow water warning alarm when for when I'm not paying attention. Especially around the jetties at MDR. The "no go" zone in always changing depending on dredging and tides. As mentioned it's also helpful for fishing.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,818
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
C-80

I have a C-80 on my Hunter 36 and it interfaces with all my other instruments that I have hooked up to my C-80 speed,wind,dept ,radar XM weather,Autopilot,DSC VGF it also can interface with sonar,AIS.
I am no computer geek and I find it very good at giving all the info sailing cruising plus alot more than I use it has taken me about a year to see and use all the things it can do.
I have know knowledge of garm except a handheld 76CX which I use Kayaking and it's pretty good and have as backup but never needed it on the boat,I am sure the guys that use garmin also have all good things to say also.
nick
 
Sep 29, 2008
1,936
Catalina 310 #185 Quantico
Sonar /Fishfinder is useful

With the extra resoluton, as compared to the ST60 number readout, you understand a lot better what is below you. You can see the depth contour and view the occasional depth warning as kelp or other junk underwater.

Garmin chartplotters are OK. Garmin FWIW does their own charts while just about everyone else uses Navionics. Both are based, I believe, on the NOAA charts.
 
May 8, 2010
15
S2 11.0A Racine, WI
Wow, thanks for all the input. I checked with West Marine and the Great Lakes are considered "connected" to the coastal regions so the 546/541 is appropriate for the Great Lakes. I was also told that there is a conversion kit that will interface my Raymarine St60+ with a Garmin so that could be a bonus.
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,986
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Wow, thanks for all the input. I checked with West Marine and the Great Lakes are considered "connected" to the coastal regions so the 546/541 is appropriate for the Great Lakes.
Spike, you might want to confirm what you were told by WM by visiting the Garmin website yourself and doing more research. While Garmin does make wide area charts that confirm what WM says, they also make charts for the great lakes.

Try this: http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/lang/en/inlandlakes

Good luck in your choice.
 
Nov 8, 2009
537
Hunter 386LE San Fancisco
Look at the Garmin 3206 or 3210. A year ago I installed a 3210 with radar. You can find both on line at very low prices. The chartplotter offers a split screen for chart and radar and is large enough to avoid using reading glasses to view. I have used both in fog and at night and will find them useful off shore. I have been off shore on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts without radar on other folk’s boats and would not do that again with all the unknown boat traffic.
 

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May 8, 2010
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S2 11.0A Racine, WI
This is exactly what I am having a problem with. I have been searching all sorts terms with garmin trying to find out which one to use. the 541/546, 526 (which is on sale at defender for 699), and the 531/536. Believe me, I have spent more time trying to figure which one to use than I have on the unit itself. There was nothing that says Great Lakes. Your link was helpful. I will certainly check that out. For the next few years I will not be leaving Lake Michigan. I would like to see which would have better detail or if they are equal. I know I want to get the g2 vision for my area. So now I need to figure out 546 or 536. Thank You again


Spike, you might want to confirm what you were told by WM by visiting the Garmin website yourself and doing more research. While Garmin does make wide area charts that confirm what WM says, they also make charts for the great lakes.

Try this: http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/lang/en/inlandlakes

Good luck in your choice.
 
May 8, 2010
15
S2 11.0A Racine, WI
I checked out the 3206 and 3210 at west marine. They dont carry it. I then did a search on Yahoo and it has been discontinued. It looks to good to be true. Why would they discontinue this? It looks very nice. I will be researching this one after the Packer/Bears game. Thank You for redirecting me to this possible choice. just looking at the pictures and basic info I saw it looks better than the 546. I just wonder why they stopped making it?
 
Jan 22, 2008
2
Irwin Citation 35.5 Sandusky, OH OH
Garmin Does not have Maps Updates for Older Chart Plotters

I would link about the future avaiability of updated charts with any unit that I was considering. I would only buy a chart plotter that uses commonly available third party chart formats such as Navionics or C-map.

I have a Garmin GPSMap182C color chart plotter that I purchased new in 2003. It works well except for several years now Garmin no longer supports the unit with updated charts. The most recent chart available for this unit for Lake Erie sailing area is dated 2002. I think this calculated obsolence is a part of Garmin's company marketing strategy. I found The same problem when I attempted to update my Nuvi 200 for road travel last year that it would only hold about half of the new data base. I was given no choice about what points of interest I could leave out, but only what geograpy would go missing. After I purchase an new replacement Nuvi 705, I felt manipulated and cheated.

It was the same story with the GPS90 that I purchased for my airplane. After a few years they no longer provide updates. I wouldn't advise purchasing any Garmin products until they decide to support older products. If you do purchase a unit from Garmin, you can expect them not to provide chart updates after about 4 or 5 years.
 
Dec 22, 2010
2
caliber 33 Worton Creek, MD
I would tell you to go to a West Marine store and spend the day playing with all the chartplotters. They can also demo all the units. You don't have to buy it from west but it's a good place to see what you want.
 
Dec 22, 2010
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caliber 33 Worton Creek, MD
I would tell you to go to a West Marine store and spend the day playing with all the chartplotters. They can also demo all the units. You don't have to buy it from west but it's a good place to see what you want.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,050
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Looks like a Garmin 536 is an inland lakes maps loaded one.. same as a 546 except 546 has coastal charts
 
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