galvanized steel aboard saltwater cruiser

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Jul 24, 2006
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Legnos, Starwind, Regal Mystic 30 cutter, 22 trailer sailor, bow rider NEW PORT RICHEY, FL
Hello all, just an innocent question regarding the use of galzanized steel, or more precisely pipe aboard my Morgan oi33. Just thinking about radar mount stern post/ solar panel mount/dinghy davits out of g.steel pipe. I know its heavy, but very strong and easily purchased/cut/threaded by a diyer. It is more prone to corrosion but can't it be sealed and coated to extend its functional life aboard? It only has to last 20 or so years when I will likely be in Jones' locker. The outisland is a very solid/heavy boat that is slow anyway so weight not a big issue.
Has anyone used or know someone who has used galz pipe aboard? You don't have to risk public embarressment you could just say " i knew this guy/gal that"....
thanks for replying, Pat.
 
Nov 28, 2009
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Catalina 30 St. Croix
Properly sealed and painted, it will last the same amount of time as steel cruising boats. No one will know the difference, specially if your mast is already painted. Just have a can of paint available to do touch ups
 
Jul 24, 2006
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Legnos, Starwind, Regal Mystic 30 cutter, 22 trailer sailor, bow rider NEW PORT RICHEY, FL
thanks for reply, i was thinking the same thing, maybe even making a stout dodger and hard bimini frmae too.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
You might look at the Sailrite site for the framework for awnings. You'll probably find fittings you wouldn't find for the galv pipe.
 

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Feb 14, 2005
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Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
An intermediate choice between stainless steel and galvanized steel is to use heavy wall aluminum.

Radar arches & poles are all 'flexural beam structure' and therefore the strength in such flexural 'beams' is satisfied by 'pipe diameter' (the larger the diameter the better). That makes heavy walled aluminum tube a good choice, if youre looking for economy. Of course intelligent design with all 'joints' and 'holes' and mechanical connections lined with insulation (plastic, etc. or at least dielectric compounds such as Tef-Gel, etc.) will prevent/retard adverse corrosion.
Aluminum is easily 'spray painted'.
 
Jun 9, 2008
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If you go to a salvage yard, I am sure you can find aluminum tubing suitable for what you wish to do for a reasonable price. To prevent corroding, however, you will either want to anodize the aluminum or paint it (using the proper primers and systems designed for aluminum - see the Awlgrip info). You also could find SS tubing to suit and then you wouldn't have to paint it.
 
Jun 21, 2007
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Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
When I bought my boat in 2007, a radar was mounted on the stern using a galvanized steel post with dodger/bimini type SS fasteners to connect to the support piping. Being just a bay and mostly daytime sailor, I removed the radar (it was an early 1990's vintage with an energy hungry CRT display) and moved everything into my home's crawlspace. Pic is attached of the tower base. The whole assembly weighs a ton! I believe that the PO had installed the radar in the early 1990's prior to a several months trip from San Francisco to Mexico. So it was out in the elements for +/- 15 years. Here's the picture of it. You can see that the galvanizing prevented any rust. But also this seems to be a very well done professional job that was hot-dipped after the welding.

I'm not sure whether I'm serious or not with this thought. Since you aren't looking for a forever solution -- then maybe very high grade (marine rated ) pressure treated 4x4 wood? Or IPE wood which is extremely rot resistant? Certainly easier to DIY with. I would think plenty strong enough if supported well. If pressure treated, investigation about the fastener type/quality is required.
 

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Legnos, Starwind, Regal Mystic 30 cutter, 22 trailer sailor, bow rider NEW PORT RICHEY, FL
back to wood

hey ya'll great responses. thanks so much, but I'm not feeling the vibe. I got aluminum suggestions, ss, and wood. They used to call me Mr wood. I can certanlly build almost anything from wood, including my davits, and all thats previously been mentioned, But my question still stands, anyone build or kno someone who has built galv. pipe works on their boat? Sorry, ther was one post i feel gave a previous install a sort of thumbs up in that it was very heavy and pro done to have been hot dipped after the welds,etc. Maybe it was cold galvanised-sprayed on, i dunno. I just feel that if i built it out of pipe it would have much more inhearant strenght. Anyone have or no of a boat with galvanised pipe onboard?
 
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Lancer 28 Grand Lake
hey ya'll great responses. thanks so much, but I'm not feeling the vibe. I got aluminum suggestions, ss, and wood. They used to call me Mr wood. I can certanlly build almost anything from wood, including my davits, and all thats previously been mentioned, But my question still stands, anyone build or kno someone who has built galv. pipe works on their boat? Sorry, ther was one post i feel gave a previous install a sort of thumbs up in that it was very heavy and pro done to have been hot dipped after the welds,etc. Maybe it was cold galvanised-sprayed on, i dunno. I just feel that if i built it out of pipe it would have much more inhearant strenght. Anyone have or no of a boat with galvanised pipe onboard?
I worked on merchant ships, that had mixtures of steel and galvanised steel. Not much galvanised, but i remember a galvanised gangway we carried, and stored on deck when we were at sea. Their were other parts of the ship, that were galvanised, but they had to be painted, as what happens when at sea, is the salt water acts as an electrolyte, and causes a current between dissimilar metals, and destroys the weakest metal. So if you attach steel to aluminum, the aluminum will corrode, the zinc that is used to galvanise steel, is a sacraficial metal, it works by corroding, so the steel dosent have to corode. Which is why we painted it. It didnt matter with the gangway, becauser the whole thing was galvanised steel, and it wasnt attached to the ship, so you wouldnt get a corrossion point round the point of attachment.

I worked for a South African, while i was in Israel, he owned a 70 foot steel sail boat, he had built himself in south africa, (well he hadnt exactly built it himself, he had a steel construction business, and he got the guys he employed to build it) He was a qualified structural engineer, he built the frameworks for buildings. He had also worked for berger paints, testing out paint systems for steel, and his hobby, was building boats from steel. He told me, that if you build a boat in steel, everything has to be steel, he said, you can use metals like brass, or bronze, but you shouldnt use stainless, or aluminum. he told me, people build steel sail boats, then to make them look a bit posh, put stainless stanchions on them, and stainless davits, and all sorts of other stainless. Within a few years, their are holes all over the deck, where those stancheons and davits are, because he said (this was back in the eighties (their is no paint system, that will permanentally sepperate two dissimmialr metals, and eventually the sea water (electolyte) will cross between the two metals, and corrode them.

I know you were looking for answers for a fiberglass boat, but, what I say is, it wont make any difference if its galvanised powder coated, or painted, not if you are fitting it to a fiberglass boat, but if it comes into contact with stainless steel,or other metals, you will start to see corrossion. If you used brass tubing, or copper, it wouldnt corrode anything.
 
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