FYI

[Alan]

A class action law suit was brought to Federal District Court in California representing boat owners of boats that have or had fiberglass fuel tanks. The suite alleges that oil companies sold ethanol to boat owners with the full knowledge of the damage that the added ethanol would do to these tanks.

 

[Ross]

Has the case been heard?

Have the oil companies filed a response? anyone can file a suit for any purpose but until it is adjudicated it is moot.

 

[sailaway78]

Deep Pockets

Somewhere in this suit, there better be someone on the plaintiff side with some very, very deep pockets.

 

[Jim Kolstoe]

Oh temptation

Ross, generally I ignore the misspellings and errors in grammer or syntax, but you threw too much temptation at me. "Moot" refers to a situation where irregardless of the court's ruling, its judgment will have no real world effect. The case as described could have a lot of effect, and is therefore not moot, merely pending. If the defendant(s) were foolish enough to not file a timely response, they could lose by default, which could make a very large hole in their collective wallet. That's real world effect.Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo

 

[Ross]

Jim, Nice try BUT!! I said until the case has been

adjudicated it is moot. After that the picture changes. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This moot1 Audio Help /mut/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[moot] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1. open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point. 2. of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic. 3. Chiefly Law. not actual; theoretical; hypothetical. –verb (used with object) 4. to present or introduce (any point, subject, project, etc.) for discussion. 5. to reduce or remove the practical significance of; make purely theoretical or academic. 6. Archaic. to argue (a case), esp. in a mock court. –noun 7. an assembly of the people in early England exercising political, administrative, and judicial powers. 8. an argument or discussion, esp. of a hypothetical legal case. 9. Obsolete. a debate, argument, or discussion. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[Origin: bef. 900; ME mot(e) meeting, assembly, OE gemôt; c. ON môt, D gemoet meeting. See meet1] —Related formsmooter, noun mootness, noun

 

[Don S/V ILLusion]

Jim

it's usually not a good idea to argue semantics, grammar or spelling in the same sentence where you invent a word - "irregardless". The actual word I think you wanted was "regardless".

 

[Joseph Shirley]

Come on guys, forget the personal attacks

Lets just comment on the issue. I'm glad to hear it's filed, Let's see where it goes. It won't affect me but I hope some gain from it. It sounds like a pretty poor position on the part of the oil companies.Joe S

 

[Ross]

Joe S. I think that it is fun to pick on Ross because he doesn't get mad.

This forum is too much fun to take too seriously.

 

[Joseph Shirley]

Ross If it's OK with you

It's OK with Me. In my experience however,I have heard and seen some very hurtful things said and done in the name of fun, because: "Oh he Doesn't Mind, He knows we're only kidding". I'm glad to know you're thick skinned though.Stay happyJoe S

 

[Ross]

Joe, even a dog knows the difference between being

tripped over and being kicked. There have been a few here that learned that I have a nasty bite.

 

[Jim Kolstoe]

Differences abound

If you consult different dictionaries, you will get differences in meaning. I based mine on Black's Law dictionary and the Oregon Rules of Appellate Procedure, which has a specific definition I bounced off one time.Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo.

 

[Jim Kolstoe]

Ross

Ross, I hope you did not take insult in my earlier posting, that was not my intent. You used what my training and experience labels a "term of art," having a very specific meaning and the consequence that a moot case must be dismissed. I have enjoyed and learned from your postings in general and I apologize if I came across as making a personal attack.Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo

 

[Ross]

Jim , No offence taken nor considered. I agree that

sometimes a word can have very narrow and specific meaning. In this instance whether or not damage occurs to fiberglass fuel tanks when ethanol modified gasoline in stored in them is subject to discussion. And further whether of not the oil companies have culpability is also open for debate.

 

[Grizz]

Good Stuff!

Nice to wake up and read & learn about the differences in meaning, especially when "The Sage" (aka 'Ross') is involved. Good interaction w/o any of the heat seen recently.I can attest to "...the different dictionaries" observation, 'cause when we kids gather @ the parents and just HAVE to engage in organized warfare (it appears that's what families are very very good at), we pull cards to see which dictionary decade we play Scrabble w/, from the 20's to the present. Changes the game drastically, which makes the 'warfare' even more interesting...It's probably a moot point if you fell in a mote and you're mute, or is it "...a mute?"

 

[Ross]

Grizz, would that be a mote that you get in your eye when you are digging

a moat around your castle?

 

[Grizz]

Oui, oui!

oops! Spellwreck malfunction...

 

[Ross]

Grizz we had a church secretary write a report referring to the ewe bushes

on the grounds in front of the church. Then there is the song "ewe, yew, you. I'm in love with you, ewe, yew. to, too two." The english language is fun.

 

[Grizz]

Of course...

...you took that as an opportunity to tell the secretary how 'baaaadly' she had misspelled yew, right? Perhaps not...

 

[Rich (P303)]

Potatoe...

Patatto... Tomatoe... Tamatto...You konw I cuold tpe a bnuch of wodrs and you wuold sitll konw waht a maen. Kocnk the Garmmer/splelnig sutff off.I wouldn't doubt it Alan. That is the trouble with society... wanting something for nothing. Lets hop on the asbestos suit too. It's time to sue McDonalds for making me fat.Actually the government and the Sierra type probably made the push for ethanol.Now the price of basic food staples has gone up. Ethanol destroying the tanks is just a consequence. Time to buy corn for the portfolio.

 

[Ross]

Archer-daniels midland has gone for 12 dollar a share

to more than 40 in 4 years.Rich, I understand you're feelings butt we aren't attaching yew. We have bin halfing sum fun. Sometime just getting won fetter out of place can make a big change in the statement.