Furling line cleat

[njlarry]

Finally got the mid deck cleat for the spring line now need to focus on the jib furling line.
Currently the line just follows the guides to about a foot in front of the jib wench and is secured on the some cleat on the cockpit comming used for the jib sheet aft of the wench. I would like to add either a clutch or cam cleat down on the deck. Which would work better?

 

[BudGates]

Either one should do you well for a furling line. The biggest difference that I see for your application would be real-estate. I would recommend planning all the cleats, and clutches that you ever expect you may want and work around that keeping in mind that clutches keep the lines neater if you have several going to the same area and cam cleats release quicker when needed.

 

[rbringle]

We have a cam cleat (PO) and I like the ease and quickness with which I can secure and release it, when needed. I don't think a regular cleat would have those qualities.

 

[Charlie Jones s/v Tehani]

are those wenches blondes or brunettes? Couldn't resist

 

[njlarry]

On a good day....both!

 

[kimelmore]

redhead?..3 for one

 

[njlarry]

FWIW, the cam or clutch will be down on the side deck outside of the coming near the toe rail. Not really thinking of a conventional horn type cleat.

 

[njlarry]

Redheads are for extra special days but lets keep this G rated.

 

[Mark Maulden]

I'm going through the same thing. Right now, i use the port stern tie cleat. I'm think of putting a conventional cleat on the deck side of the cockpit combing. I like a cleat as I know upon sight that it is cleated off. High winds can unfurl a jib so I want to know at a glance that it's secured when I leave the boat..

 

[Ward H]

I'm going through the same thing. Right now, i use the port stern tie cleat. I'm think of putting a conventional cleat on the deck side of the cockpit combing. I like a cleat as I know upon sight that it is cleated off. High winds can unfurl a jib so I want to know at a glance that it's secured when I leave the boat..

Yep, I read somewhere, I think in my furler manual, that you should always tie off your furling line on a horn cleat so it doesn't come loose in a storm and allow your jib to unwind and blow out. Only use a cam cleat for temporary cleating of the line.
I imagine a line clutch would be secure enough but I don't wouldn't trust a cam cleat.

Hope you getting in some good sailing Larry!

 

[rpwillia]

You want a stanchion block. The Garhauer one I have is the SB-25. http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=57
With the cam cleat it is like handing and extra hand, you can even do it with a single hand.
Stanchion Blocks
SB-25C - Stainless Steel Blocks
length: 3-1/2 width: 2-5/8
weight: 11 oz shackle:
sheave diameter: 1-3/4
25 series block with swivels 360 degrees. Comes with cam cleat
$60.00

 

[jibes138]

I have a horn cleat mounted on the side of the starboard coming. Let me know if you want a picture.

 

[DougM]

My boat has a Harken block and cam cleat combination bolted through the toe rail adjacent to the port sheet winch. When furling the jib, its easy for one person to both ease the sheet and pull in the furling line. This helps to get a nice, neat, snug furl on the jib.
I don't concern myself with the holding power of the cam cleat. When I pack in the boat for the day, I add a bunji wrap around the furled jib at the clew. Between that and the jib sheets wrapped around the sail, its not going anywhere in a storm. If a big blow is forecast, the sails are coming off and stowed anyway.

 

[Justin_NSA]

The CDI line on my Mac was secured with a clutch. My Hunter's continuous line is on a horn cleat. Whenever we left, the boat(s) were/are always secured with line wrapped a few times around the furled sail just in case the cleating method came undone. Same thing goes for the mainsail cover. We get some pretty big winds in Dorothy country.

 

[Benny17441]

For a jib furling line I prefer a small dedicated cleat. The use of the line might be once in a day and being out of mind and tied to a cleat would be more secure than with a cam.

 

[Capt jgw]

I'd go with a horn cleat, or a jam cleat, the kind that's a horn cleat with a wedge under one of the horns. You could use the jam when sailing then make it up properly when you leave. The sheets and furling line need to be made up hard when unattended. One of the sailors in our moorings was in the habit of coiling both sheets and the furling line and dropping them into the anchor locker, expecting the locker lid to hold them. Well, one night we had a bad wind storm, the sail unrolled, and boat and mooring took a ride across the bay. Didn't stop until the ONE WEEK OLD sail exploded. Two other boats along his path were dismasted, we think he clipped them on the way. He doesn't do that anymore.

 

[Dalliance]

I use a dedicated jam cleat on the outside face of the port side combing for the furler line.

 

[Sefuller]

On our 34 I installed a rope clutch on the pad where the primary winch is located, and I have a Harken ratchet block lashed to the stern pulpit with a soft shackle. I don't use the winch for the fuller, but this arrangement would allow for that if necessary.

Scott

 

[rpwillia]

I have never had my cam cleat give way, the way it is set up it is pretty secure. A jam cleat sounds pretty risky. I would expect that if it were to come loose there was a whole lot of other hell breaking loose and that would be the worst of your problems. One really nice benefit about the cam cleat is you can in a stiff breeze take a break while furling and with the old cleat from the factory it was a PITA to tie the line off.

 

[jibes138]

Here's a pic of how my 35 was set up when new.