My furling headsail or jib (not sure of proper term) on my 84 H27 is easy to get out, but is an absolute bear to pull back in. We keep the slack and hold the lines with a little tension for a tight roll, but the furling line is a #%*#& to pull in. It will go easy for a pull and then stick. I will pull it thru the sticking point and it will stick again and again and again. Is there maintenance I need to do on the furler (grease or lube)??? I don't like pulling so hard since the last block is attached to my stern rail. I am 6'02 and 250 lbs pulling with all I have. I know it shouldn't be that hard to bring in. Any suggestions?
Furling Headsail on H27 is a bear to pull in
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there are lube holes in my Selden Furler...I would hose it down with fresh water, lube it, and take sail down to try rolling in and out .... also check that line is running thru eyelets properly... one last thought, are you rolling up with wind force in sail or after you head into wind?
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Lubricating the mechanism is a good place to start but as mentioned, try to ease the force of the wind on the sail as you furl it in. I like to head downwind, which lessens the apparent wind and makes it easier to furl the sail. You can also head into the wind but there will be a lot of flogging of the sail until you get it under control and there will likely be folds/creases in the furled jib.
Lubricating the mechanism is a good place to start but as mentioned, try to ease the force of the wind on the sail as you furl it in. I like to head downwind, which lessens the apparent wind and makes it easier to furl the sail. You can also head into the wind but there will be a lot of flogging of the sail until you get it under control and there will likely be folds/creases in the furled jib.
You probably have a Furlex 100. Lubricate the lower bearing assembly and the halyard swivel. There is a screw at the top of the cone, loosen and press grease into the hole. There are two recesses in the tack ring, press grease into both. At the bottom of the assembly press grease between the terminal part and the hub while turning. The halyard swivelo has two recesses in the eye ring press grease into both. I use a white lithium grease which can be found in spray cans which makes the job easier. Thoroughly wash the unit with a hose or pressure washer and let dry before applying the grease.
It would be helpful to know which furler. I assume this is starting now and not in the past. Make sure your tuning of the rig and the halyard is taunt. That would be the first. Then cleaning. Then the next would be the upper and lower swivels to be concerned with making sure they are cleaned and lubricated. Depending on the age of the furler, it could also be the bearings or balls might be worn out. Good luck sir.
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Yeah model is important. Sorry, I am out of town and will post if these suggestions don't solve the issue! Thanks for your suggestions.Crazy Dave Condon said:
Check to make sure the springy plastic pieces that ride on the line as it winds on the drum are not catching on the upper and lower drum flange pieces. I had lost one half of the lower flange and every few turns the springy piece would catch in the missing space and would spring loose only after I gave a big tug.
My thoughts are to remove the sheets with the sail fully furled.. Wrap something around sail to hold it wrapped in place.. Now spin the furler by hand or by pulling on the "hard to pulll " line and see what you find out. There should be no resistance at all..
This thing looks so generic! I could not find a manufacturer stamp or part number on it anywhere. I am not sure what the PO has going on with all the line wrapped where the jib is attached to the furler??? There does not appear to be anywhere to lube the unit and it appeared to be clean. The blocks for the lines are clear and seem to be functioning in proper order. Anyone have any idea what kind of furler this is?
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It certainly looks nothing like the Harken on my H23. Almost looks home-made?
I'd get rid of that line - what is it attached to? Can't be the sheets, down that low.
I also second the comment above - if you can't roll and unroll the furler with the jib removed, something is wrong with the drum mechanism or the swivel at the head. What sort of foils does it have (aluminum or plastic), and do these look bent anywhere?
I'd get rid of that line - what is it attached to? Can't be the sheets, down that low.
I also second the comment above - if you can't roll and unroll the furler with the jib removed, something is wrong with the drum mechanism or the swivel at the head. What sort of foils does it have (aluminum or plastic), and do these look bent anywhere?
I'm gonna pull it apart this week. I have searched the marina for another like it with no luck. Maybe when it's apart, it will make sense???isaksp00 said:
Before you go pulling things apart get your binos out and go sailing. While someone furls the jib check out the mast fitting. My suspicion is that the angle between the jib halyard and the forestay is not great enough for some reason. Perhaps a busted bail or the halyard is hoisted to high..... hard to tell without a picture.
Since it is only doing it in one spot on the furler that would indicate that it is binding somewhere and not in need of lubrication. Lube them when the turns hard all the time!!!
Had this same problem on my 40.5 and it turned out to be a bail just below the forestay attachment point that the halyard ran through. the bail had come out and twisted and that allowed the halyard to forestay angle to be reduced. Every time the furler came around to a certain spot the halyard would jam it and you would have to back it up and nurse it through that spot. Had to actually watch the top swivel with the binos while the first mate furled the jib to catch what was causing the problem
Since it is only doing it in one spot on the furler that would indicate that it is binding somewhere and not in need of lubrication. Lube them when the turns hard all the time!!!
Had this same problem on my 40.5 and it turned out to be a bail just below the forestay attachment point that the halyard ran through. the bail had come out and twisted and that allowed the halyard to forestay angle to be reduced. Every time the furler came around to a certain spot the halyard would jam it and you would have to back it up and nurse it through that spot. Had to actually watch the top swivel with the binos while the first mate furled the jib to catch what was causing the problem
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