Full battens or not???

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Shippy

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Jun 1, 2004
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Hunter 356 Harve de Grace
I'm looking to replace the mainsail on my hunter 29.5 (10 years old and bit the big one this past weekend while doubled reefed). In talking to several sailmakers, I'm getting conflicting suggestions about weight of dacron < 6 vs > 7) and also about the need for full battens versus 1 or 2 full battens and 2 partial battens? Any thoughts as far as pros and cons? We are North Chesapeake Bay crusiers.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
The cloth is more than it's weight.

Shippy: The actual cloth has more to do with it than the actual weight of the material. If you go to a good loft they will show you the difference on how the it stretchs on different bias. I would suggest that you look at full battens in the top of the sail and partial battens in the lower pockets.
 
Feb 27, 2004
142
Hunter 29.5 Lake Travis, TX
Full battens = performance

I recently had the local sailmaker look at our 29.5 main because it nas become increasingly difficult over the last couple of years to flatten the sail when the wind increases. Solid vang, cunningham, main sheet all down hard and the sail still has a huge belly that gets backwinded by the jib and results in a round up. I thought our sail was blown out and needed to be recut or replaced. The sailmaker said the battens have softened and/or were undersized. He took them off and did deflection tests and found that they to be replaced with stiffer ones. He said it would make big, big difference. We can't wait. I just called him after reading your message to check on the status of the battens. I asked him about your batten question. He said that he couldn't imagine partial battens or a mixture on a roach sail that large unless it was a cost versus performance issue. He builds J boat racing sails nationally. Did you check the chanderly on this site for a replacement? Hope this helps, Monty
 
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John Richard

Full batons are a must

Skippy, We just replaced both OEM sails on a 3.5 year old Hunter 410 after I found they both had lost their shape. We have the furling mast so I went with full length vertical batons. For your boat, I am assuming you do not have the furling option so a horizontal design is called for. The full batons maintain the sail's shape. With the larger roach of these sails, they become necessary. Call around to other sailmakers to get a group feel for what to get. I went with UK and couldn't be happier. You will not believe how they improve performance. It will be like getting a new boat. Check our web site for a few pictures of them. John Richard s/v Jack's Place
 

Shippy

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Jun 1, 2004
272
Hunter 356 Harve de Grace
Large Roach might be the difference

Based on some of your responses, I'm almost certain that the sailmaker that recommended the partial battens wasn't thinking about a large roach, which is what I have now and want again. I've been looking at several different sailmakers, some local to Harve de Grace and others via the internet, and the prices are all about the same (+/- $100).
 
Feb 27, 2004
142
Hunter 29.5 Lake Travis, TX
Shippy..

In your Hunter manual there is an excellent CAD drawing of the mainsail and jib relationship. It shows that the reduced jib area is added as the roach area. You might consider faxing this to your bidders. If I was replacing the 29.5 main I would only deal with a company that had proven experience with the newer Hunter sail plans or at least a sailmaker that is close to your boat and is willing to sail with you and make any necessary changes. Good luck and let us know how you make out as there are many newer Hunters that will need replacement sails soon. Monty
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Look up other 29.5 owners

Try looking in owner forum and email them about what they have done with their boat,I remember some one with a 29.5 doing very well racing his boat but don't remember who. You might not be racing but he should know what to do. nick
 
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