Forward Hatch
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Hey Pat! Im looking for the same thing... Hard to believe there is a material used in construction that looks like a type of pressboard that in my case is rotten and coming apart. If you find 2 let me know 
Pat Colligan "Puffin" V2137
"motorcoaster@..." motorcoaster@... wrote: Anyone selling a good used original forward hatch?
Patrick?
Pat Colligan "Puffin" V2137"motorcoaster@..." motorcoaster@... wrote: Anyone selling a good used original forward hatch?
Patrick?
Pat
I appreciate that you didn't announce to everyone that you are prepared to out bid me if one does show up. So far, I haven't had any action, I'll let you know if I locate a couple of them.
Pat
pat colligan coonhopper2000@... wrote:
Hey Pat! Im looking for the same thing... Hard to believe there is a material used in construction that looks like a type of pressboard that in my case is rotten and coming apart. If you find 2 let me know Pat Colligan "Puffin" V2137
"motorcoaster@..." motorcoaster@... wrote: Anyone selling a good used original forward hatch?
Patrick?
I appreciate that you didn't announce to everyone that you are prepared to out bid me if one does show up. So far, I haven't had any action, I'll let you know if I locate a couple of them.
Pat
pat colligan coonhopper2000@... wrote:
Hey Pat! Im looking for the same thing... Hard to believe there is a material used in construction that looks like a type of pressboard that in my case is rotten and coming apart. If you find 2 let me know
Pat Colligan "Puffin" V2137"motorcoaster@..." motorcoaster@... wrote: Anyone selling a good used original forward hatch?
Patrick?
I thinking of replacing the forward hatch with something like a Bomar Trapezoidal Hatch. Has anyone replaced the forward hatch with a commercially made hatch? If so, what did you use and how did it turn out? Any issues I need to be concerned with? Thanks
Ric
s/v Blue Max
#2692
www.ric-maxfield.net
Ric
s/v Blue Max
#2692
www.ric-maxfield.net
Ric,
Here is a link to a guy who rebuilt (modified) a Vega for some serious
cruising. Some of the things he did are great, some I think just weird.
Anyway, about half-way down there is a page of pictures of his installing a
Bomar type hatch.
Here is a link to a guy who rebuilt (modified) a Vega for some serious
cruising. Some of the things he did are great, some I think just weird.
Anyway, about half-way down there is a page of pictures of his installing a
Bomar type hatch.
Groundhog:
I know you said "new fuel filters". If you had "old" fuel with "stuff"
growing in it the "stuff" could have been stirred up by the motion and
clogged the fuel filters. I think that this is a reasonable hypothesis but
that doesn't make it true. Hope you have a better start soon.
Like a teenager's knowledge of sex, this comes from reading. I have no
real experience myself.
Alan
Minke #2505
I know you said "new fuel filters". If you had "old" fuel with "stuff"
growing in it the "stuff" could have been stirred up by the motion and
clogged the fuel filters. I think that this is a reasonable hypothesis but
that doesn't make it true. Hope you have a better start soon.
Like a teenager's knowledge of sex, this comes from reading. I have no
real experience myself.
Alan
Minke #2505
I agree with this.
If you examine the coarse and fine fuel filters you'll prob find that they are full of crud.
Also if you siphon fuel from bottom of tank you'll find crud there too that was shaken up.
Suggest you get fuel tank cleaned out if above is true.
John V1447 Breakaway
John Kinsella
Mathematics and Statistics Dept
University of Limerick
Phone 0035361202148
Web jkcray.maths.ul.ie
If you examine the coarse and fine fuel filters you'll prob find that they are full of crud.
Also if you siphon fuel from bottom of tank you'll find crud there too that was shaken up.
Suggest you get fuel tank cleaned out if above is true.
John V1447 Breakaway
John Kinsella
Mathematics and Statistics Dept
University of Limerick
Phone 0035361202148
Web jkcray.maths.ul.ie
Hi Groundog,
I agree with both previous responders. We had the same problem over and
over again before we found the solution.
We had the problem sorted out by drilling a hole of about 3 cm in the
top end of the diesel tank.
Then with an oilextractor fixed to a 15 mm rigid electricity pipe and
with a torch on the lower part of the tank lookint through the hole you
can see and suck out all the dirt in the tank that lies on the bottom.
You will probably find that the inside of the tank itself is not dirty.
The dirt is just drifting on the bottom. Easy to such out. You can close
the hole in the top with a cork or what we didL Buy one of these
neoprene door stoppers at the do-it-yourselve store. It should be
fitting well of course. In the years after that we never had a leukage
of diesel and an inspection and sometimas an suction action every year
is a piece of cake.
Regards,
Bob Horjus
I agree with both previous responders. We had the same problem over and
over again before we found the solution.
We had the problem sorted out by drilling a hole of about 3 cm in the
top end of the diesel tank.
Then with an oilextractor fixed to a 15 mm rigid electricity pipe and
with a torch on the lower part of the tank lookint through the hole you
can see and suck out all the dirt in the tank that lies on the bottom.
You will probably find that the inside of the tank itself is not dirty.
The dirt is just drifting on the bottom. Easy to such out. You can close
the hole in the top with a cork or what we didL Buy one of these
neoprene door stoppers at the do-it-yourselve store. It should be
fitting well of course. In the years after that we never had a leukage
of diesel and an inspection and sometimas an suction action every year
is a piece of cake.
Regards,
Bob Horjus
same thing happened to me - it was the fuel pump - the pump membrane was buggered - a replacement solved the problem. New filters may be a good idea as well.
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Groundhog groundhogyh@... wrote:
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Groundhog groundhogyh@... wrote:
Check the fuel tanks. Lots of boats that have been in layup for a while have
a little water in the tanks and they get bad algae, and in rough weather it
shakes up and clogs filters.
Nicholas H. Walsh P.A.
120 Exchange Street
P.O. Box 7206
Portland ME 04112
207/772-2191
Fax 207/774-3940
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a little water in the tanks and they get bad algae, and in rough weather it
shakes up and clogs filters.
Nicholas H. Walsh P.A.
120 Exchange Street
P.O. Box 7206
Portland ME 04112
207/772-2191
Fax 207/774-3940
This email is from a law firm and may contain material that is confidential
or privileged. If you suspect you were not the intended recipient, please
delete the email and give us a call.
Check the fuel tank vent. If it's clogged, it will end up creating a vacuum
in the tank that may resist fuel flow.
Spider webs and recent spray painting have been the culprites I've
encountered for this problem occuring.
I've got an old 1973 Vega for sale. One of those project that I've got not
time for. $1500.
~ Pete Carrico
in the tank that may resist fuel flow.
Spider webs and recent spray painting have been the culprites I've
encountered for this problem occuring.
I've got an old 1973 Vega for sale. One of those project that I've got not
time for. $1500.
~ Pete Carrico
Thanks for the great tips.
The symptoms do seem to point to fuel choking off.
Would you reccomend changing both fuel filters or just the first one in line?
I just changed them out this summer.....
groundhog
The symptoms do seem to point to fuel choking off.
Would you reccomend changing both fuel filters or just the first one in line?
I just changed them out this summer.....
groundhog
If it is the fuel as we guess then that must be cleaned or removed first.
If that isn't done you will merely clog the newer filters too.
Perhaps someone else can answer the question: how do you determine if the
fuel is dirty?? Siphoning some and looking??
Some people employ "fuel polishing" to keep their fuel clean. You can
search on that.
If that isn't done you will merely clog the newer filters too.
Perhaps someone else can answer the question: how do you determine if the
fuel is dirty?? Siphoning some and looking??
Some people employ "fuel polishing" to keep their fuel clean. You can
search on that.
Last winter I used a drill pump to drain my 40 litre plastic diesel tank.
Then used isopropyl alcohol and lots of nappies/diapers (unused) to swap
out tank.
It had been full of crud.
A miserable job but needed doing.
John V1447 Breakaway
Then used isopropyl alcohol and lots of nappies/diapers (unused) to swap
out tank.
It had been full of crud.
A miserable job but needed doing.
John V1447 Breakaway
I suspect that there is not a lot of dirt in there because just a couple-three years ago, I had the whole tank out and cleaned it and reinstalled it in the port lazarette.
gh
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If the tank is dirty changing filters alone won't help. As long as there is
crud stuck to the tank walls whenever it is rough it will come off and plug
the filters. The tank probably needs cleaning.
crud stuck to the tank walls whenever it is rough it will come off and plug
the filters. The tank probably needs cleaning.
So the next question is......
Why do we have to deal with our motors cutting off at the worst possible times?
There must be a better system that is not expensive.
Why do you not see 18 wheel trucks crapping out randomly along the hiway?
Why do we have to deal with our motors cutting off at the worst possible times?
There must be a better system that is not expensive.
Why do you not see 18 wheel trucks crapping out randomly along the hiway?
Why do you not see 18 wheelers crapped out along the highway?
Because they have clean tanks, a good filter system, and use a lot of fuel.
A boat might use less than a tank of fuel a year. Good solutions is either
a cleanout on top of the tank - not always possible due to location, or a
drain at the bottom of the tank to get every last drop out if there is an
issue.
The best addition is a fuel polishing system. They are not expensive or
hard to install and will guarantee clean fuel and a problem free system.
Because they have clean tanks, a good filter system, and use a lot of fuel.
A boat might use less than a tank of fuel a year. Good solutions is either
a cleanout on top of the tank - not always possible due to location, or a
drain at the bottom of the tank to get every last drop out if there is an
issue.
The best addition is a fuel polishing system. They are not expensive or
hard to install and will guarantee clean fuel and a problem free system.
18 wheel trucks are on a preventative maintenance schedule while many boats are a on a ignore it until it breaks (typically under rough conditions) schedule.
When I bought my Vega (which was very well cared for) one of the first things I did was pull the fuel tank and clean out the muck and bleach it. I also added better filtration, a lift pump and an cooling water screen/filter.My motivation for this was:
One of my dad's buddies had his sailboat destroyed on the rocks because he continually "repaired" systems on the boat in the cheapest fashion or would fix them "later" and as would be expected,
everything that was a weak link would fail when it was stressed. His fuel system was a source of continuous problems, and it's failure was the demise of his boat.
Usually he was lucky and someone would save his butt when he got in trouble, but not the last time (well that's not exactly true, his butt was saved but not his boat).
In a way he was kind of lucky, because he was well insured and used the money from destroying his sailboat to buy a new Nordic Tug.
This was about 5 years ago, so he is probably starting to need some repairs and maintenance. I expect sometime in the next 5 years or so, I'll be hearing stories about things he "fixed" broke down
on the Nordic Tug while out in some rough weather.
I guess some people don't think sailing is interesting enough without adding an additional element of exciting mechanical breakdowns. -Tim
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From: Groundhog groundhogyh@...
To: "AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Help. Engine quit
So the next question is......
Why do we have to deal with our motors cutting off at the worst possible times?
There must be a better system that is not expensive.
Why do you not see 18 wheel trucks crapping out randomly along the hiway?
When I bought my Vega (which was very well cared for) one of the first things I did was pull the fuel tank and clean out the muck and bleach it. I also added better filtration, a lift pump and an cooling water screen/filter.My motivation for this was:
One of my dad's buddies had his sailboat destroyed on the rocks because he continually "repaired" systems on the boat in the cheapest fashion or would fix them "later" and as would be expected,
everything that was a weak link would fail when it was stressed. His fuel system was a source of continuous problems, and it's failure was the demise of his boat.
Usually he was lucky and someone would save his butt when he got in trouble, but not the last time (well that's not exactly true, his butt was saved but not his boat).
In a way he was kind of lucky, because he was well insured and used the money from destroying his sailboat to buy a new Nordic Tug.
This was about 5 years ago, so he is probably starting to need some repairs and maintenance. I expect sometime in the next 5 years or so, I'll be hearing stories about things he "fixed" broke down
on the Nordic Tug while out in some rough weather.
I guess some people don't think sailing is interesting enough without adding an additional element of exciting mechanical breakdowns. -Tim
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From: Groundhog groundhogyh@...
To: "AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Help. Engine quit
So the next question is......
Why do we have to deal with our motors cutting off at the worst possible times?
There must be a better system that is not expensive.
Why do you not see 18 wheel trucks crapping out randomly along the hiway?