Non sailor here. I happened on an 87 Catalina 22 that needed love. I'm no boat guy but she just took my heart. I work in nursing so needless to say not much time these days. But I'm sure not going anywhere in my off time. So I got an owners manual and watching videos and I'm attempting to bring her back so to speak. Finding this resource may be the difference. People who know sailing and this boat. Heck yes! So first of a thousand questions. I'm missing the piece at the end of the v birth in the point of the bow. I'm told it's called the forward bulkhead. I saw one for sale out of an 83 model. If the hull didnt change over the years you think it would be a fit? Second question. What are the insert boards covering the access compartments in the bottom of the boat properly called? Several are just gone. Thanks for any help. Just wait till I get the courage to raise the mast! That should be fun for the neighbors...
Forward Bulkhead?
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Deck plates, sole plates, floor boards, etc... and pointy end bulkhead works too. I call ours ‘squeaky”.
The hull itself didn't change over the years, but the interior and deck shape did.
The designs were Original Catalina 22, Catalina 22 "New Design" and Catalina 22 Mk2
(There is are newer 22ft Catalinas that are similar, but not really the same thing)
So..
Your 87 Catalina is known as the "New Design". (The 1983 Boat is the older design)
It has a different interior so the wood panel in the bow won't be the same. (the 87 has an anchor locker in the bow the early models didn't)
If you have wood working skills I would make one.
Use something that can handle moisture. Marine Grade Plywood, Starboard etc.
The "Locker" covers could be made at the same time.
"Locker"=place you store things
Welcome to the forums, and sailboat ownership.
The designs were Original Catalina 22, Catalina 22 "New Design" and Catalina 22 Mk2
(There is are newer 22ft Catalinas that are similar, but not really the same thing)
So..
Your 87 Catalina is known as the "New Design". (The 1983 Boat is the older design)
It has a different interior so the wood panel in the bow won't be the same. (the 87 has an anchor locker in the bow the early models didn't)
If you have wood working skills I would make one.
Use something that can handle moisture. Marine Grade Plywood, Starboard etc.
The "Locker" covers could be made at the same time.
"Locker"=place you store things
Welcome to the forums, and sailboat ownership.
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I can’t answer your question on whether the ‘83 fits an ‘87. But someone here will. Some folks here have fabricated their own. Many of us are on the same journey of revitalizing our older C-22s. Mine is a ‘73 and is a work in progress. Hopefully you will make better progress. I’ve had this since 1/2016 and it has yet to be sailed. Members of this forum really like photos, so if you have any of those to share, that would be appreciated. Congratulations on getting a great classic boat that is very forgiving with new sailors.
Welcome to the forum!
Welcome to the forum!
Yes if it comes to that I'll fabricate something. The hard part would be getting up in there and getting a good pattern. Then figuring how it attaches. I know I have bigger issues but I have to start somewhere. My little list is growing. Thank you for the information.The hull itself didn't change over the years, but the interior and deck shape did.
The designs were Original Catalina 22, Catalina 22 "New Design" and Catalina 22 Mk2
(There is are newer 22ft Catalinas that are similar, but not really the same thing)
So..
Your 87 Catalina is known as the "New Design". (The 1983 Boat is the older design)
It has a different interior so the wood panel in the bow won't be the same. (the 87 has an anchor locker in the bow the early models didn't)
If you have wood working skills I would make one.
Use something that can handle moisture. Marine Grade Plywood, Starboard etc.
The "Locker" covers could be made at the same time.
"Locker"=place you store things
Welcome to the forums, and sailboat ownership.
Worst case i i could make you a template drawing and take a photo. We also have a 87.
The boat is still in storage now, but I should have it here in a week or so.
to confirm we are talking the same thing… Post a photo.
Keep an eye on Ebay of all things-- folks constantly offering up component pieces and many original pieces in various conditions. As mentioned a lot of the wood on the C22 is "relataively" simple and can be successfully fabricated by the DIYers. But if you want convenience you will find originals online eventually.
Thanks Dave. Well I got all anxious and spent good money on a slip at the local lake. Now I'm realizing I don't have half what I need. So I'm making a list and working down it. I will say that messing around with this boat is cheap therapy. Its quality time that relieves a lot of stress. And while I'm a lost land lubber without a clue, I really enjoy what this little vessel has done for my soul. Sounds corny but nursing isnt pretty these days. So maybe it doesn't matter how long a project takes.
I have friends and family in the medical field. Not corny in the least.
It will probably matter eventually, depending on how long a project is.. but the journey can be part of the fun.
Then the comes learning to sail well.
the best part of sailing is that you always learn something.. year after year after year.
And then it all comes together when the engine is shut off, and you are under sail. My whole system just says "Aah" when that happens.
I'm anxious to get her in the water. i joined a sailing organization at my local lake. And getting her down there around these guys who can check the rigging and such hands on and tell me what I have and what I need will be invaluable. You would think here in the midwest we wouldnt have any old salts. But some of these folks cut their teeth sailing. From Annapolis, Connecticut, Rhode Island. I was surprised.
You will find the midwesterners seem to be avid sailors. Maybe it because they dont live on the sea and therefore know better. Hehe. I saw a documentary that said that the majority of the Canadian navy in ww2 were prairie boys, and that their familiarity of cold weather made them better equipped for convoys in the north Atlantic in winter.
Where you sailing ?
Where you sailing ?
Looks like a fantastic lake. The club looks great too with ASA classes being taught there. Perfect location IMO.
Lots of little bays to anchor in and cook steaks on the BBQ.
The lake I am on is 9500 sq miles but very shallow for it's size, which makes it VERY ugly when it is windy. More ugly than the ocean IMO.
While we have big sailing clubs and a lot of keelboats, it's not the best place to learn.
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That panel is simply a piece of teak veneered plywood screwed in place with 4 screws and washers. Not sure it's needed really.
Some people have installed a plastic access port there to allow getting to deck mounted hardware or run wiring. Of course you could put a nice removable wood panel over top of the plastic port for visual reasons.
@Gene Neill had some photos in one of his threads when he installed a fantastic bow roller, and had to put an access port there.
For example: One of the projects that most people do, is to reseal every mounting hole in the deck with epoxy, to prevent the wood "core", between the layers of fiberglass on the deck, from rotting.
Fiberglass boats with "cored" decks are prone to soft spots in the hull. That damages it's structural integrity. Keeping them sealed from water intrusion prevents that.
Lots of info in the catalina 22 threads here showing people doing that.
@Maine Sail Has the best detailed how-to on the subject.
He also sells good Butyl Tape to use for when re-bedding/mounting deck hardware. Check his profile or that website for info.
Avoid some threads though…..it could lead to you completely rebuilding your boat and never sailing it.
Best to do it a bit at a time. Sail fix repeat.
Lots of little bays to anchor in and cook steaks on the BBQ.
The lake I am on is 9500 sq miles but very shallow for it's size, which makes it VERY ugly when it is windy. More ugly than the ocean IMO.
While we have big sailing clubs and a lot of keelboats, it's not the best place to learn.
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That panel is simply a piece of teak veneered plywood screwed in place with 4 screws and washers. Not sure it's needed really.
Some people have installed a plastic access port there to allow getting to deck mounted hardware or run wiring. Of course you could put a nice removable wood panel over top of the plastic port for visual reasons.
@Gene Neill had some photos in one of his threads when he installed a fantastic bow roller, and had to put an access port there.
For example: One of the projects that most people do, is to reseal every mounting hole in the deck with epoxy, to prevent the wood "core", between the layers of fiberglass on the deck, from rotting.
Fiberglass boats with "cored" decks are prone to soft spots in the hull. That damages it's structural integrity. Keeping them sealed from water intrusion prevents that.
Lots of info in the catalina 22 threads here showing people doing that.
@Maine Sail Has the best detailed how-to on the subject.
Sealing Deck Penetrations To Prevent Core Rot - Marine How To
The Epoxy Supplies Most all boats have some sort of "core" in the decks. Whether it's balsa, plywood or some of the foam cores all can eventually absorb water from a leaking deck penetration. A leaking deck, especially with wood cores,
marinehowto.com
He also sells good Butyl Tape to use for when re-bedding/mounting deck hardware. Check his profile or that website for info.
Avoid some threads though…..it could lead to you completely rebuilding your boat and never sailing it.
Best to do it a bit at a time. Sail fix repeat.
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When. you get to a wiring project, his labeling suggestion is genius: Labelmaker label on the wire, followed by clear shrink-wrap to keep the label in place (read everything else @Maine Sail has to say too, but that one came to mind. as one I found nonobvious and particularly helpful).
Yup. Common technique in industry. We did that for cables in the tv station and many mobile broadcast truck i worked in decades ago. Mind you we used professional labels, but now you can do it easily with cheaper supplies.
I like @Maine Sail work because has a nerd/ engineer type mindset combined with sailing experience..
Maybe it's just us software types who didn't learn that technique long ago
dang app guys-- all us infrastructure dudes know thatMaybe it's just us software types who didn't learn that technique long ago
They probably don't document their code either.dang app guys-- all us infrastructure dudes know that
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Sealing things up and keeping that core solid sounds well worth it. Had some time off and a beautiful day. So much oxidation and slime. I scrubbed for hours. There is a lot of area on a boat this size lol. Looking better. A lot of nicks and such. But shes old like me. Ordered a wind indicator and hope the 9 inch light on top of my mast won't interfere. Bought a motor. Fiberglassed the broken ends back on my crib boards to make them work for this year. Got dock lines and 2 fenders. Thought I needed 4 or more but was told only need 2 to start because of how boat is tied up. Love wood but purchased plastic redo kit with oval combing trim and unknown piece of something on transom. I'll call it trim. Not necessary but it was hanging. Have no anchor and road. Believe I need fire extinguisher and life ring or something you toss? Spread sails in yard. Couple of patches. Definitely used. Main and Bag says 150% genoa. Weigh about the same. Found one of my leaks. An opaque little skylight called a dead something. Yep it's dead alright. Guess I can say I made some headway.Looks like a fantastic lake. The club looks great too with ASA classes being taught there. Perfect location IMO.
Lots of little bays to anchor in and cook steaks on the BBQ.
The lake I am on is 9500 sq miles but very shallow for it's size, which makes it VERY ugly when it is windy. More ugly than the ocean IMO.
While we have big sailing clubs and a lot of keelboats, it's not the best place to learn.
————-
That panel is simply a piece of teak veneered plywood screwed in place with 4 screws and washers. Not sure it's needed really.
Some people have installed a plastic access port there to allow getting to deck mounted hardware or run wiring. Of course you could put a nice removable wood panel over top of the plastic port for visual reasons.
@Gene Neill had some photos in one of his threads when he installed a fantastic bow roller, and had to put an access port there.
For example: One of the projects that most people do, is to reseal every mounting hole in the deck with epoxy, to prevent the wood "core", between the layers of fiberglass on the deck, from rotting.
Fiberglass boats with "cored" decks are prone to soft spots in the hull. That damages it's structural integrity. Keeping them sealed from water intrusion prevents that.
Lots of info in the catalina 22 threads here showing people doing that.
@Maine Sail Has the best detailed how-to on the subject.
Sealing Deck Penetrations To Prevent Core Rot - Marine How To
The Epoxy Supplies Most all boats have some sort of "core" in the decks. Whether it's balsa, plywood or some of the foam cores all can eventually absorb water from a leaking deck penetration. A leaking deck, especially with wood cores,marinehowto.com
He also sells good Butyl Tape to use for when re-bedding/mounting deck hardware. Check his profile or that website for info.
Avoid some threads though…..it could lead to you completely rebuilding your boat and never sailing it.
Best to do it a bit at a time. Sail fix repeat.