my forestay chainplate broke....does anyone know of replacements or will i need to have this one fixed?
forestay chainplate
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Hi Kenneth
I have spare chain plate of a Series 3. I am near Glasgow Scotland. Can I be of help or do I live in the wrong part of the world for you.
David Wisdish
Ponteneur V3283
From: mageekenneth
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:59 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] forestay chainplate
my forestay chainplate broke....does anyone know of replacements or will i need to have this one fixed?
I have spare chain plate of a Series 3. I am near Glasgow Scotland. Can I be of help or do I live in the wrong part of the world for you.
David Wisdish
Ponteneur V3283
From: mageekenneth
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:59 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] forestay chainplate
my forestay chainplate broke....does anyone know of replacements or will i need to have this one fixed?
i'll need it mailed no matter where i get it from, so i doubt thats a problem...i am not sure if there are any differences between the chainplate for series 1-2 or 3.. i'll try to do a little research and find out if its compatable...if it is, would you have any idea what you'd take for it
K.L.Magee
K.L.Magee
Hi All
I make and supply new chainplates (forestay, cap shorouds & lowers). Also a Double Bow Roller with new stronger forestay chaionplate. Contact me on steve@...
Check Ric Masefields renovation for photos of installation of new forestay chainplate and double bow roller.
Cheers
Steve B
I make and supply new chainplates (forestay, cap shorouds & lowers). Also a Double Bow Roller with new stronger forestay chaionplate. Contact me on steve@...
Check Ric Masefields renovation for photos of installation of new forestay chainplate and double bow roller.
Cheers
Steve B
Hi All
I lost my mast in 1997 and that is why I designed and made a new forestay chainplate with double bow roller... All happened in a mere F3 whilst dropping the spinnaker!
Steve B
I lost my mast in 1997 and that is why I designed and made a new forestay chainplate with double bow roller... All happened in a mere F3 whilst dropping the spinnaker!
Steve B
knocked downtwice by two kinda large waves about 4-5 minutes apart. the second one was followed by a smaller wave that filled the Jib while she was laying on her side. i was in the water off the boat about 5-10 feet trying to get my tether untangled when she started to stand up and the weight of the water in the jib caused the forestay chainplate to snap.. lucky though because there wasn't too much rearward strain on the mast. i dropped the main and cut the jib halyard free and ran it under the bow cleat and winched it down ..had to motor 300miles to vanatu for repairs, but its been slow going, so i figure i'll just buy a new chainplate....
K.L.Magee
K.L.Magee
Steve,
You may want to check the dimensions on your forestay chainplate. The one I bought from you a couple of years ago did not fit my boat. I had to have it modified.
Maybe the Vega dimensions changed over the years?
Roy
You may want to check the dimensions on your forestay chainplate. The one I bought from you a couple of years ago did not fit my boat. I had to have it modified.
Maybe the Vega dimensions changed over the years?
Roy
Kenneth,
Is your boat a series 1, 2 or 3? I have the old bow plate off my series 2 (1975/#2692) that is in perfect shape. I just replaced it because I needed to change to the type that worked with Steve's double anchor bow roller that I bought from him. Even though the boat is 35 years old, it was only used for a total of about 3 years and never stored in the water with the mast up. If it would work for you, you can have it for what it costs to get it shiped to you.
Hopefully, once you get it fixed you can spend some time there in Vanuatu. I sailed those islands in 2007 and really loved the country.
Ric
s/v Blue Max
#2692
Is your boat a series 1, 2 or 3? I have the old bow plate off my series 2 (1975/#2692) that is in perfect shape. I just replaced it because I needed to change to the type that worked with Steve's double anchor bow roller that I bought from him. Even though the boat is 35 years old, it was only used for a total of about 3 years and never stored in the water with the mast up. If it would work for you, you can have it for what it costs to get it shiped to you.
Hopefully, once you get it fixed you can spend some time there in Vanuatu. I sailed those islands in 2007 and really loved the country.
Ric
s/v Blue Max
#2692
Hi Roy
I have overcome the problem by not drilling the three holes as they are different in various Vegas. Not had a problem since.
Cheers
Steve B
I have overcome the problem by not drilling the three holes as they are different in various Vegas. Not had a problem since.
Cheers
Steve B
Some years ago I arrived at my boat near Harwich to find that some unknown
vessel had run into my boat on her mooring and broken the forestay fitting and
badly bent the pulpit rails, we were due to leave for Belgium within hours.
We took the fitting off , went to a local metal worker and had a simple
stainless steel strap made with holes matching the old fitting with a hole at
the top for the forestay.
We fitted this, replacing the bolts which had been bent in the collision, and
carried on with our trip accross the North Sea and back. The front end of the
pulpit had to be lashed in place and the anchor roller was also bent but usable.
I sailed like this for several weeks while our insurance company deliberated and
then some more while a new pulpit and bow fitting was made. I still keep the strap that was made just in case. It would be much simpler to
make this locally and arrange a replacement fitting at leisure. Most of the
bolts on the fitting are to do with the anchor rollers, its the ones down the
front of the bow that hold the forestay.
Mike
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From: Steve Birch steve@...
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 22 November, 2010 8:41:54
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] forestay chainplate
Hi Roy
I have overcome the problem by not drilling the three holes as they are
different in various Vegas. Not had a problem since.
Cheers
Steve B
vessel had run into my boat on her mooring and broken the forestay fitting and
badly bent the pulpit rails, we were due to leave for Belgium within hours.
We took the fitting off , went to a local metal worker and had a simple
stainless steel strap made with holes matching the old fitting with a hole at
the top for the forestay.
We fitted this, replacing the bolts which had been bent in the collision, and
carried on with our trip accross the North Sea and back. The front end of the
pulpit had to be lashed in place and the anchor roller was also bent but usable.
I sailed like this for several weeks while our insurance company deliberated and
then some more while a new pulpit and bow fitting was made. I still keep the strap that was made just in case. It would be much simpler to
make this locally and arrange a replacement fitting at leisure. Most of the
bolts on the fitting are to do with the anchor rollers, its the ones down the
front of the bow that hold the forestay.
Mike
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From: Steve Birch steve@...
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 22 November, 2010 8:41:54
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] forestay chainplate
Hi Roy
I have overcome the problem by not drilling the three holes as they are
different in various Vegas. Not had a problem since.
Cheers
Steve B
Steve,
Yes the screw holes were off, but also the angles of the part.
It required significant rework.
roy
Yes the screw holes were off, but also the angles of the part.
It required significant rework.
roy
Hi All,
I have belatedly read this string about the forestay chainplate. I've bought the forestay chainplate and double bowroller from Steve and am now looking at how to attach it. The chainplate appears to be the same as the existing fitting, but it's not clear how the bowroller is supposed to fit, in relation to the chainplate. Is the bowroller chainplate supposed to be attached so that it sits on top of the hull/deck join lip round the edge of the deck or does the lip need to be ground down to deck level?
It also seems that if the bowroller baseplate is moved sufficiently far forward so that the water filler fits into the semicircular cut out at the back of the baseplate, the forward end of the baseplate fouls the vertical piece on the forestay chainplate. Is the piece of the chainplate which sits flat on the deck perhaps supposed to sit on top of the front end of the bowroller baseplate? Could you or Ric Masefield kindly direct me to his renovation pictures? I think I must have, erm... deleted them! Does anyone else have any photos of the finished job?
Best wishes,
John Booth
Vagrant 1718
I have belatedly read this string about the forestay chainplate. I've bought the forestay chainplate and double bowroller from Steve and am now looking at how to attach it. The chainplate appears to be the same as the existing fitting, but it's not clear how the bowroller is supposed to fit, in relation to the chainplate. Is the bowroller chainplate supposed to be attached so that it sits on top of the hull/deck join lip round the edge of the deck or does the lip need to be ground down to deck level?
It also seems that if the bowroller baseplate is moved sufficiently far forward so that the water filler fits into the semicircular cut out at the back of the baseplate, the forward end of the baseplate fouls the vertical piece on the forestay chainplate. Is the piece of the chainplate which sits flat on the deck perhaps supposed to sit on top of the front end of the bowroller baseplate? Could you or Ric Masefield kindly direct me to his renovation pictures? I think I must have, erm... deleted them! Does anyone else have any photos of the finished job?
Best wishes,
John Booth
Vagrant 1718
John,
I bought the same double bow roller from Steve and have installed it. It was a little confusing, but between email to Steve and playing with it, I got it installed. The hardest part was bolting it down from such a small crawl space in the bow, but I had everything removed so it made it a little easier. You do have to epoxy fill some holes and drill some new ones, bit it's pretty straight forward. You can go out to my website www.ric-maxfield.net and look on the s/v Blue Max page. I took several photos of the install process that should help. Feel free to email me off line if you have any questions.
Ric
s/v Blue Max
# 2692
I bought the same double bow roller from Steve and have installed it. It was a little confusing, but between email to Steve and playing with it, I got it installed. The hardest part was bolting it down from such a small crawl space in the bow, but I had everything removed so it made it a little easier. You do have to epoxy fill some holes and drill some new ones, bit it's pretty straight forward. You can go out to my website www.ric-maxfield.net and look on the s/v Blue Max page. I took several photos of the install process that should help. Feel free to email me off line if you have any questions.
Ric
s/v Blue Max
# 2692
Hi Ric,
Many thanks for the help. From the photos on your website, it looks (as I thought) as though there is a gap beneath the bowroller base plate because it is bolted directly onto the lip at the edge of the deck. As the forestay chainplate is positioned and bolted down on top of the bowroller baseplate, does that mean that there is a gap beneath the point where the chainplate is bolted through the baseplate? Or did you put some sort of packing beneath it? I hope that all makes some sort of sense?
John Booth
Vagrant1718
Many thanks for the help. From the photos on your website, it looks (as I thought) as though there is a gap beneath the bowroller base plate because it is bolted directly onto the lip at the edge of the deck. As the forestay chainplate is positioned and bolted down on top of the bowroller baseplate, does that mean that there is a gap beneath the point where the chainplate is bolted through the baseplate? Or did you put some sort of packing beneath it? I hope that all makes some sort of sense?
John Booth
Vagrant1718
John,
Yes, there is a gap of about 3/4 of an inch. I filled in the hole for the chainplate that went into the deck. There is enough room under the bow roller plate, that is raised off the deck, for the head of the bolt that attaches the chainplate to the bow roller. I just left that gap there so getting to the bolt is easy and water drains properly. Steve said that I could have run that bolt through the deck for added strength, however, with that gap there I was afraid I would have problems sealing it well enough to keep the water out. In any event, the new chainplate is secured much better than the original. Glad I was able to help. Just let me know if you have any other questions.
Ric
s/v Blue Max
#2692
Yes, there is a gap of about 3/4 of an inch. I filled in the hole for the chainplate that went into the deck. There is enough room under the bow roller plate, that is raised off the deck, for the head of the bolt that attaches the chainplate to the bow roller. I just left that gap there so getting to the bolt is easy and water drains properly. Steve said that I could have run that bolt through the deck for added strength, however, with that gap there I was afraid I would have problems sealing it well enough to keep the water out. In any event, the new chainplate is secured much better than the original. Glad I was able to help. Just let me know if you have any other questions.
Ric
s/v Blue Max
#2692