I am planning to bring my boat up the California coast from San Diego to Newport Beach. It will be a nighttime passage due to prevailing weather. I figure that that the voyage will take up to 15 hours. There will be three adults on board who will need nurishment. Would any of you seasoned sailors care to offer up a few items that should be on my shopping list? I want to say away from booze and caffine because of their tentendancy to make one seasick. Any and all suggestions will be greatfully appreciated. John Richard s/V Jack's Place
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overnight food for thought
If it is possible that it will get cold on the water, consider making some warm food in advance. For example make some chicken soup and store it in a thermos bottle.
If it is possible that it will get cold on the water, consider making some warm food in advance. For example make some chicken soup and store it in a thermos bottle.
Use your microwave and have prepared items.
John: On our trip home from Hawaii in August 2000 we used the microwave and had warm sandwiches like hot pockets. Hot soup in a cup would also work well. Why don't you schedule your trip to leave in the early AM with a landing before dark? This time of year it stay light until 7:30-8:00pm. If you depart at 2-3am you would be their with plenty of daylite to spare. (just a thought)
John: On our trip home from Hawaii in August 2000 we used the microwave and had warm sandwiches like hot pockets. Hot soup in a cup would also work well. Why don't you schedule your trip to leave in the early AM with a landing before dark? This time of year it stay light until 7:30-8:00pm. If you depart at 2-3am you would be their with plenty of daylite to spare. (just a thought)
Couple Of Suggestions
If you are not familiar with leaving San Diego at night make sure you head south straight out the main shipping channel and don't think of turning west until you are almost to buoy #3. This may seem like going the wrong distance for a long way but there are extensive kelp beds to avoid and in the dark you can not be too cautious of them. Seems like a couple of cruising sailboats a year get caught in the kelp and end up on the rocks at the end of Point Loma. When you finally head north make sure you stay well off the coast until past Point La Jolla because of all the kelp. Going up the coast I always watch my depth and stay in a minimum of 100' because of kelp beds. I always leave San Diego at the first light, usually go as far as Oceanside, but have gone all the way to Newport before dark. This usually means motoring much of the way north as the morning winds are traditionally very light and you won't have wind for much sailing until late morning at the earliest. My experience has been that the winds are always right on the bow. Expect to tack well off the coast and cover a lot of ocean heading north as it has never been a straight sail north for me.
If you are not familiar with leaving San Diego at night make sure you head south straight out the main shipping channel and don't think of turning west until you are almost to buoy #3. This may seem like going the wrong distance for a long way but there are extensive kelp beds to avoid and in the dark you can not be too cautious of them. Seems like a couple of cruising sailboats a year get caught in the kelp and end up on the rocks at the end of Point Loma. When you finally head north make sure you stay well off the coast until past Point La Jolla because of all the kelp. Going up the coast I always watch my depth and stay in a minimum of 100' because of kelp beds. I always leave San Diego at the first light, usually go as far as Oceanside, but have gone all the way to Newport before dark. This usually means motoring much of the way north as the morning winds are traditionally very light and you won't have wind for much sailing until late morning at the earliest. My experience has been that the winds are always right on the bow. Expect to tack well off the coast and cover a lot of ocean heading north as it has never been a straight sail north for me.
pop tarts
Last fall I left San Diego northbound for San Francisco, departing at 1800h. Amazed at the number of ships we encountered that first night, including naval vessels, until we got north of Long Beach..... Don't be suprised when your eating habits regress to an adolescent level while offshore. Soup always works, the chunkier the better. Pop tarts if you have a toaster/inverter combination. They have a new bacon & egg pop tart that is a great way to start off an early morning watch. Last thanksgiving I helped a British friend do an offshore delivery to Encinada, and he had a pantry full of spam. Hey, spam tastes pretty good on club crackers when there's no land in sight. Ginger snaps, the official cookie of S/V Buoyant, are fabulous for quieting a queezy stomach. All the transpac vets in my yacht club swear by Dinty Moore Beef Stew as being the perfect long-range fuel. I'll have a case of it onboard when I race the next Pacific Cup. On a long passage, raisins or prunes will ultimately be in demand.
Last fall I left San Diego northbound for San Francisco, departing at 1800h. Amazed at the number of ships we encountered that first night, including naval vessels, until we got north of Long Beach..... Don't be suprised when your eating habits regress to an adolescent level while offshore. Soup always works, the chunkier the better. Pop tarts if you have a toaster/inverter combination. They have a new bacon & egg pop tart that is a great way to start off an early morning watch. Last thanksgiving I helped a British friend do an offshore delivery to Encinada, and he had a pantry full of spam. Hey, spam tastes pretty good on club crackers when there's no land in sight. Ginger snaps, the official cookie of S/V Buoyant, are fabulous for quieting a queezy stomach. All the transpac vets in my yacht club swear by Dinty Moore Beef Stew as being the perfect long-range fuel. I'll have a case of it onboard when I race the next Pacific Cup. On a long passage, raisins or prunes will ultimately be in demand.
Ocean Trips
On most of the overnight trips I have done, we find any type of easily held food is best, soup in a cup, hot dog/hamberger, granola bars, fruit like apple or oranges etc., fast food stuff,like Boston Market pot pies that can be re heated in an oven or food that can be heated in a pot of water in a plastic bag. Have lots of quick stuff available, that way if the weather turns ugly, there is plenty to eat, often. No one will want to be down below if there is wave action. Enjoy your trip!
On most of the overnight trips I have done, we find any type of easily held food is best, soup in a cup, hot dog/hamberger, granola bars, fruit like apple or oranges etc., fast food stuff,like Boston Market pot pies that can be re heated in an oven or food that can be heated in a pot of water in a plastic bag. Have lots of quick stuff available, that way if the weather turns ugly, there is plenty to eat, often. No one will want to be down below if there is wave action. Enjoy your trip!
My ideas
It will be a nice trip, fun to do at night, I have done it when I lived in Newport Beach. 1) As mentioned before, stay away from the kelp beds. Been there, done that, not fun. 2) Oceanside is a nice harbor if fatique sets in, its 5 hours from there to Neport Beach 3) Food answers: Spend some time in prep ahead since you are sailing at night. I would plan on fruit for quick snacks, crackers, cheese, salted snacks, cookies as needed. Stay away from serious grease and preservatives like salami, etc. Prepare a nice warm dinner and freeze it, like a good chili, stew, spaghetti sauce with meat balls, etc. Warm in the microwave, prepare the starch (rice/pasta) while base is warming. Serve in bowls, works even when rough. Feed the whole crew early with the hot dinner, like around Mission Bay or so. Then, as you either do a shift or sleep, all are well fed and warm. There will be a lot of enthusiasm early on, a good dinner settles everyone down. Celebrate going past the kelp beds! Have some sandwiches and the aforementioned munchies/fruit available during the evening for crew to get as needed. Make it easy, keep them in the cockpit where they belong. Lots of bottled water, Diet Coke is tedious at 3 in the morning. Coffee is good. As dawn breaks at Laguna Beach, some Entenmans coffee cake, Tropicana Pure Premuim OJ, fresh coffee...a treat for the voyage made. Tied up in the slip at Newport Beach, make a good breakfast for the crew...you do it as thanks. It is legal to have a beer early in the AM, kick back and smile...it was a great trip! Invite me and I'll do the cooking!!!!
It will be a nice trip, fun to do at night, I have done it when I lived in Newport Beach. 1) As mentioned before, stay away from the kelp beds. Been there, done that, not fun. 2) Oceanside is a nice harbor if fatique sets in, its 5 hours from there to Neport Beach 3) Food answers: Spend some time in prep ahead since you are sailing at night. I would plan on fruit for quick snacks, crackers, cheese, salted snacks, cookies as needed. Stay away from serious grease and preservatives like salami, etc. Prepare a nice warm dinner and freeze it, like a good chili, stew, spaghetti sauce with meat balls, etc. Warm in the microwave, prepare the starch (rice/pasta) while base is warming. Serve in bowls, works even when rough. Feed the whole crew early with the hot dinner, like around Mission Bay or so. Then, as you either do a shift or sleep, all are well fed and warm. There will be a lot of enthusiasm early on, a good dinner settles everyone down. Celebrate going past the kelp beds! Have some sandwiches and the aforementioned munchies/fruit available during the evening for crew to get as needed. Make it easy, keep them in the cockpit where they belong. Lots of bottled water, Diet Coke is tedious at 3 in the morning. Coffee is good. As dawn breaks at Laguna Beach, some Entenmans coffee cake, Tropicana Pure Premuim OJ, fresh coffee...a treat for the voyage made. Tied up in the slip at Newport Beach, make a good breakfast for the crew...you do it as thanks. It is legal to have a beer early in the AM, kick back and smile...it was a great trip! Invite me and I'll do the cooking!!!!
Potatos
John, If you or your crew have a soft stomach, they say that potatos don't taste to bad the second time around. r.w.landau
John, If you or your crew have a soft stomach, they say that potatos don't taste to bad the second time around. r.w.landau
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