I just aquired a Hunter 22 made in 82. I have not sailed in almost 20 years and even then it was not what this forum would call sailing. I stopped to admire the boat, fell in love and fifteen minutes later bought the boat on pure emotion. I have several questions. I have looked thru the boat and find no evidence of flotation material. If a Hunter 22 gets filled with water, does it go straight to the bottom? How far will this boat heel over before it lays flat and will it self right? Has anyone ever had a Hunter 22 blown over till the boat filled with water? And what happedened? Does anyone have some electonic photos of the way they have their rigging set up that they could send me? Any photos of rigging or interiors would be apprectiated. I have a high speed interconnect connection so large photos are not a problem. I saw a bimini rig in some photos that I think I would like,where can one of those can be ordered from? My e-mail addrsss is vkinslow@cox.net Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank You
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Chuck
You'll have fun.
I've had her as far as 40+ degrees without water coming into the cockpit. Past that point the rudder pops out of the water and she rounds up anyway. If she fills with water, she sinks like a stone. There is 1300 lbs of lead under the floor boards. As far as electronics and electrical go, your batterie goes under the ladder, way in back of the sink. If it hasn't been done already, reroute all wiring to the port or starboard under the deck. There is a pic in the 22 owners photos showing where I put it. The placement is normally near the floor and the salt water laps at the back of the panel ruining it. I love mine. I put a wheel on it 2 years ago and now I love it more.
I've had her as far as 40+ degrees without water coming into the cockpit. Past that point the rudder pops out of the water and she rounds up anyway. If she fills with water, she sinks like a stone. There is 1300 lbs of lead under the floor boards. As far as electronics and electrical go, your batterie goes under the ladder, way in back of the sink. If it hasn't been done already, reroute all wiring to the port or starboard under the deck. There is a pic in the 22 owners photos showing where I put it. The placement is normally near the floor and the salt water laps at the back of the panel ruining it. I love mine. I put a wheel on it 2 years ago and now I love it more.
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Matt Borders
Congradulations
I bought a 1982 Hunter 22 this past Feb. I absolutely love the boat. It sails really nice and it has plenty of room for my wife and I. We have overnighted in the boat and in 10 days we will head out for a 10 day cruise around the Chesepeake Bay. The boat sails pretty good in 15 knots of air. After 15 knots, think about reefing the main. You may have to reef earlier depending on your crew and your comfort level. If you start to get over powered head up or dump the main. I don't think that you can heel the boat over enough to get water into the boat. You will round up far before that point. The best piece of equipment to add is a bilge pump with a float switch. That is peace of mind and works far better than floatation! If you have any questions feel free to e-mail me.
I bought a 1982 Hunter 22 this past Feb. I absolutely love the boat. It sails really nice and it has plenty of room for my wife and I. We have overnighted in the boat and in 10 days we will head out for a 10 day cruise around the Chesepeake Bay. The boat sails pretty good in 15 knots of air. After 15 knots, think about reefing the main. You may have to reef earlier depending on your crew and your comfort level. If you start to get over powered head up or dump the main. I don't think that you can heel the boat over enough to get water into the boat. You will round up far before that point. The best piece of equipment to add is a bilge pump with a float switch. That is peace of mind and works far better than floatation! If you have any questions feel free to e-mail me.
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Mark
Flooding
Hi, I have sailed with the rail in the water, and water coming in by the gallons. At this point the configuration of the Hunter 22 begins to round up--in a uncontrolled manner, I might add. As the others have said, I think it would sink like a rock. That goes for all larger sail boats--over 20 feet. Very few larger boats have flotation. Your boat is called self righting by design. The bottom of the boat has enough weight below the waterline that it will always stand back up. The wind will dump out of the sail as the boat heals (leans) over, The boat stands up when the wind presure is not present. The boat may get quickly knocked down again if it does not round up. Do not worrry, your hunter 23 will ALWAYS round up in heavy air. To the point that the boat is frusterating to stear in heavy wind. This is a common Hunter configuration problem. I have feathered many other boats in heavy wind with water continuing to pour into the cockpit, but you will not beable to control your Hunter that well. Bottom line: You will not flood your boat from sailing. You could flood your boat from a hole, crack, or a through-hole problem. All that said, below the deck(sleeping and eating) this is the most comforting 22 footer I have seen for medium to light wind. Good luck! Mark
Hi, I have sailed with the rail in the water, and water coming in by the gallons. At this point the configuration of the Hunter 22 begins to round up--in a uncontrolled manner, I might add. As the others have said, I think it would sink like a rock. That goes for all larger sail boats--over 20 feet. Very few larger boats have flotation. Your boat is called self righting by design. The bottom of the boat has enough weight below the waterline that it will always stand back up. The wind will dump out of the sail as the boat heals (leans) over, The boat stands up when the wind presure is not present. The boat may get quickly knocked down again if it does not round up. Do not worrry, your hunter 23 will ALWAYS round up in heavy air. To the point that the boat is frusterating to stear in heavy wind. This is a common Hunter configuration problem. I have feathered many other boats in heavy wind with water continuing to pour into the cockpit, but you will not beable to control your Hunter that well. Bottom line: You will not flood your boat from sailing. You could flood your boat from a hole, crack, or a through-hole problem. All that said, below the deck(sleeping and eating) this is the most comforting 22 footer I have seen for medium to light wind. Good luck! Mark
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John Schaub
Boats DO sink, here's a story for you
Unless you have a boat similar to a Boston Whaler that has so much flotation in it that you can cut it in half and it still floats, chances are that your boat could and would sink in the right conditions. I’m not real familiar with the h22 but I know of a h23 that sank to the bottom of Brookville reservoir in eastern Indiana. As the story goes an elderly gentleman was out for a sail on a late fall afternoon by himself. A strong unexpected storm front came in fast and caught him off guard. He had full sails up and wide open companionway, he got knocked down hard. The h23 doesn’t have a catch on the lazertte door to keep it shout, bad way for Hunter to do a little cost cutting. He couldn’t get the sails uncleated and the cockpit and lazertte started to fill with water. Once that happened the boat laid on its side until the water went down the companionway! Next thing he knows the boat is going down and he’s swimming for his life in freezing cold water. He makes it ashore but the boat is gone, it went to the bottom. After numerous attempts by professionals with sonar and divers to find it they give up. Brookville reservoir is a flood control lake; it isn’t until late winter, very early spring that they let enough water out in anticipation of the spring rains that about three feet of the mast is poking up out of the water. It seems that because of the wing keel the boat some how went down and sat on the bottom standing straight up on the keel and rudder, and that’s why the mast was sticking out of the water. What are the chances of that happening? The boat was salvaged that spring and sat in a Hunter dealer for almost a year before it was auctioned off. The only reason I know this, my h23 that I bought last fall came with two sets of interior cushions. I sold one of the sets to the guy that won the action and is restoring the boat. There are two things to learn from this, first, sail lockers, lazerettes, what ever you want to call them should have some way to latch shout in case of a knock down. The other, it’s a good idea to keep the companionway boards in and the sea hood shout in iffy conditions. That way if the water can't come in, the air in the interior acts as your flotation.
Unless you have a boat similar to a Boston Whaler that has so much flotation in it that you can cut it in half and it still floats, chances are that your boat could and would sink in the right conditions. I’m not real familiar with the h22 but I know of a h23 that sank to the bottom of Brookville reservoir in eastern Indiana. As the story goes an elderly gentleman was out for a sail on a late fall afternoon by himself. A strong unexpected storm front came in fast and caught him off guard. He had full sails up and wide open companionway, he got knocked down hard. The h23 doesn’t have a catch on the lazertte door to keep it shout, bad way for Hunter to do a little cost cutting. He couldn’t get the sails uncleated and the cockpit and lazertte started to fill with water. Once that happened the boat laid on its side until the water went down the companionway! Next thing he knows the boat is going down and he’s swimming for his life in freezing cold water. He makes it ashore but the boat is gone, it went to the bottom. After numerous attempts by professionals with sonar and divers to find it they give up. Brookville reservoir is a flood control lake; it isn’t until late winter, very early spring that they let enough water out in anticipation of the spring rains that about three feet of the mast is poking up out of the water. It seems that because of the wing keel the boat some how went down and sat on the bottom standing straight up on the keel and rudder, and that’s why the mast was sticking out of the water. What are the chances of that happening? The boat was salvaged that spring and sat in a Hunter dealer for almost a year before it was auctioned off. The only reason I know this, my h23 that I bought last fall came with two sets of interior cushions. I sold one of the sets to the guy that won the action and is restoring the boat. There are two things to learn from this, first, sail lockers, lazerettes, what ever you want to call them should have some way to latch shout in case of a knock down. The other, it’s a good idea to keep the companionway boards in and the sea hood shout in iffy conditions. That way if the water can't come in, the air in the interior acts as your flotation.
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Ron M
240, 260?
Do the 240 and 160 have positive flotation built in? How about the 23.5 and 26? Ron Mehringer h26 Hydro-Therapy
Do the 240 and 160 have positive flotation built in? How about the 23.5 and 26? Ron Mehringer h26 Hydro-Therapy
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C Smith
Where is the flotation material?
If the 260 has positive flotation where is the flotation material?
If the 260 has positive flotation where is the flotation material?
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Mike B.
Up in the gunwales
At least there is plenty of the stuff in my H240, just to frustrate me in passing new wiring from the stern to the electrical panel.
At least there is plenty of the stuff in my H240, just to frustrate me in passing new wiring from the stern to the electrical panel.
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Rick Macdonald
Crazy Dave - 23.5 flotation?
Dave - can you confirm or deny that the H23.5 has positive floatation? ...RickM...
Dave - can you confirm or deny that the H23.5 has positive floatation? ...RickM...
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Rick Webb
Yeah, How About It?
Mike Thomas told me they filled one up with a hose and could not sink it. For some reason I right away thought of Crazy Dave and a jug of shine. I want to see the video of Ol' Crazy sailing the thing swamped.
Mike Thomas told me they filled one up with a hose and could not sink it. For some reason I right away thought of Crazy Dave and a jug of shine. I want to see the video of Ol' Crazy sailing the thing swamped.
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Rick Macdonald
MacGregor 26 brochure picture
I'm looking at an old MacGregor 26 brochure. It has a picture of the boat full of water but floating about at deck level. I'd sure like to confirm that my 23.5 will do the same without having to actually test it myself! ;-) ...RickM...
I'm looking at an old MacGregor 26 brochure. It has a picture of the boat full of water but floating about at deck level. I'd sure like to confirm that my 23.5 will do the same without having to actually test it myself! ;-) ...RickM...
Mac 26x promotional video
Macgregor's folks also video taped the 26X full of water at the dock after allegedly holeing the hull. They also demonstrated the self righting capability of the 26X (and by extension, other water ballasted boats) by hauling the mast parallel to the water, placing the cabin top and cockpit sole perpendicular to the water. Upon releasing the halyard the boat returns upright. The slick video was not enough to sell me the Mac. Steve Kamp, H260 "Carolina Girl"
Macgregor's folks also video taped the 26X full of water at the dock after allegedly holeing the hull. They also demonstrated the self righting capability of the 26X (and by extension, other water ballasted boats) by hauling the mast parallel to the water, placing the cabin top and cockpit sole perpendicular to the water. Upon releasing the halyard the boat returns upright. The slick video was not enough to sell me the Mac. Steve Kamp, H260 "Carolina Girl"
McGregor Swamp Pictures
I found some pictures of the McGregor swamping http://www.macgregor26.com/safety.htm They have a video listed on the site for $10.
I found some pictures of the McGregor swamping http://www.macgregor26.com/safety.htm They have a video listed on the site for $10.
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Vernon Kinslow
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