Fixing a Vega in the sun....

Feb 12, 2008
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I would guess that you have probably already thought of taking on a crew person, at least for the longer legs.

Having someone else to take watches and chat with would probably make a much more enjoyable trip for you.
Try a little searching around on google, there are sites that list "crew wanted" positions as well as people looking to crew.

As my very limited sailing experience progresses, I get more and more comfortable in situations that used to make me anxious.
Last weekend, while racing the little boat, the RC told me that on several occasions he could see my entire keel out of the water.
I remember when this happened, as I was just about to lose the helm (no doubt there wasn't much of the rudder in either) before crew eased the genoa.
Earlier this year, that would have been it, we would have gone in, but after this summer's experiences, we just sheeted back in after the gust passed and kept on racing, chit chatting the whole time.

I guess the point is that you will probably get used to it (singlehanding) if you keep at it. I'm just getting to the point where I can almost helm by feel, without checking tell tales etc.
We race against much better sailors that somehow just know where the faintest wisp of wind is coming from and can run their boat on almost an unconscious level in most conditions.
We are slowly creeping up on them in racing skill, but have a very long way to go. I would expect that as we get better and better, we will be less and less anxious sailing in tough conditions, which will
let us enjoy the sailing more, once we have the confidence that both ourselves and the boat can handle most conditions we that we encounter.

I know how mentally tired out we are after struggling (as a crew) in shifty, gusty conditions for less than a day. I can only slightly imagine on how stressful it is to be by oneself, far from shore and with
no options other than to carry on to the next port for days at a time. I would also expect that as you get more confidence in yourself and your boat, it will become less stressful and rather than having your mind filled with tense,
anxious thoughts as you persevere through tough conditions, you will be able to relax more and enjoy the time alone as a kind of meditation period in the natural world.
Once relaxed, your body will probably get out of survival mode and your appetite and sleep cycle will normalize.

You've probably seen Chuck and Laura's (?) blog and series of videos on youtube. On seeing how long it takes for them to get any where, at first I thought, "wow, they are really slow, they should put up more sail", but later I realized that
by sailing with very little sail, it probably is much more relaxing and enjoyable for them to poke along and get there when they get there.

There seemed to be common recommendation of taking some time on shore to relax and have a few drinks to regain your motivation.

I think this is good advice. My girlfriend used to get very nervous about racing, but after each race (especially after races that had her exclaiming least once "I hate this!") we would meet up with the other racers for some rum and cokes.

By the next weekend, she would be hesitantly looking forward to the next race. She has now progressed to the point where formerly she demanded we drop the spinnaker if there was any chance of gusts or big shifts, to a point now, she wants to keep it up.
In the last regatta, we were under spinnaker (she was flying it) and were closing on one of the better racers near the finish line. It was looking like we would overtake the boat ahead when the foredeck called out to drop the spinnaker because a big gust was coming up rapidly from astern leaving a wake of broached boats behind it. For the first time ever she refused: "No!, keep it up, we can pass them!". I was impressed, but then I looked behind us and saw what the foredeck
had seen and called the drop. We finished less than a boat length behind the other boat, but were pretty happy to not have the chute up when the gust hit. One of the other boats in the regatta broke it's mast in that gust.
So the moral of this story is to perhaps put yourself on a post traumatic episode regimen of rum therapy and soon you will be regaling us with stories on how you are flying a spinnaker single handedly in a gale.

Good luck -Tim________________________________
From: groundhog groundhogyh@...
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: vega weather helm



Wow, very interesting story.
After reading the emails in this thread, i agree with some of the others and might add
a bit more of my thoughts.

Your first (i assume) big outing on the boat was straight out into the atlantic. Maybe you would feel better with much shorter hops from one vacation type spot to the next. That way you would have lots of people around you, more often. And in the mediteranian maybe better seas (im sure there are big storms there too).

There are also "Rallys" where a bunch of boats with low experience can group together to hop destinations together. One such is out of the Chesapeake to the bahamas, where the chesapeake is a gathering spot for boats from all over the north before the last jump out to the atlantic. Cost for joining is like $1200 though.

Do you have weather fax capability out at sea?

groundhog
 
Oct 31, 2019
303
I just ran the optimal course from Madeira to Gibraltar and there is no
easy direct way, but the program doesn't give any alternatives as it often
(usually) does (the program Visual Passage Planner 2 -- kind of a fun
program, but I must admit (full disclosure :) that I used to be a beta
tester for the developer, so I am a little biased I guess). This is all
based on the Pilot Charts, so it is all an average of ships reporting (I am
not sure how current the data is, but it is kind of a general planning tool
anyway). Also, since I am in the US, it is all in feet! All distance is in
nautical miles.

Most of the time you'd have wind angle of about 45 degrees, at least for
more than the first a couple hundred NM. Then, as you get closer to
Gibraltar there is actually one stretch (50 to 100 NM) where you could
probably beam or broad reach. Then as you approach the coast you'd be
beating (probably about 50 NM or or a little greater). Overall it is about
570 NM. The program breaks it down into 12 waypoints about equally spaced.

The winds would average about 10 to 12 kts. The wave height would average
around four feet. I didn't run currents, but the program takes that into
account.

I like the idea of going to the Bahamas then working back from there. But
then why not just go through the Panama Canal (I've always enjoyed this)
and cross the Pacific. The islands in the South Pacific are fantastic. And
I can attest to the fact that when you get to Australia, the mates at the
Royal Australian YC will treat you grand (they would never let me buy my
own beer).

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:57 AM, MICHAEL FREEMAN
mikeandv@...wrote:
 
Oct 30, 2011
221
Thanks again to everyone for the help.... it is much appreciated. I
have been studying "cruising Routes of the World" and it looks like
being very difficult to sail back so I think I shall do one last trip
to the Canary Islands - about 2.5 days south from Porto Santo and see
if I can find a broker who will try and sell it for me. If anyone
knows of someone who might want a ridiculously cheap Vega please let
me know...
Must go to bed - being eaten alive by bugs!

John
 
Oct 30, 2019
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Hats off to you, John, for getting so far. There's a book you need to read when you get back: "Solitaire Spirit" by Les Poweles.
Solitaire Spirit: Three times around the world single-handed: Amazon.co.uk: Les Powles: 9781408154151: Books ... great read about the trials of a novice sailor. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Often asked "When are you going offshore?" my reply is "Never, and if then, only by accident."
For me there's no greater joy than coastal cruising and island-hopping (we call it gunk-holing around here). Sailing doesn't have to be a solitary pursuit, it's more fun (to me) meeting other prople at quiet anchorages or busy marinas, especially ones with a pub. For me sailing is a pleasure rather than an endurance test. Oh yeah, and setting a timetable is the surest way to attract bad weather and misfortune!

Anyway, give it some time before a final decision ... the next owner will probably have an almost trouble-free boat thanks to all your hard work.

All the best,
Peter
www.sintacha.com
PS If you quit sailing this forum is going to really miss your stories!!!
 
Oct 2, 2005
465
John, I've much enjoyed your posts, and hope to read more of them, though your mind seems to be made up.

A good friend of mine, an adventurer; a sailor, biker, hiker and mountain climber ( he is now 89 years old, lives aboard on a mooring, and has lived aboard all the 40 or so years I have known him) once told me there are 3 stages of any adventure.

1. The Dreaming, the excitement of the planning and the anticipation, losing oneself in the work that goes into project. The nights in bed, tired after working late on the plan but looking forward.

2. The Event, Always accompanied by misery and toil; Biking into headwinds on a hot dusty road, freezing rain on a mountain trail, seasickness.

3. The Memory, Always good; the smell of coffee on the campfire, sunsets that stretch forever, friends made along the way.

You've certainly earned the memories. . . and you've accomplished more than the vast majority of sailors, never the less I can't help but think that if there is a way to get the boat back into the Med and then be able to enjoy bumping from one port to the next, you would have a ball.

Wishing you the best.
Craig Tern#1519
 
Oct 30, 2011
221
Hi Peter, I agree! It does feel a bit like this has been an endurance
test and a battle with the boat to keep it all going. I have to say
that this is the first time that I am sat in a marina with no repairs
to do! The engine really is running sweetly now and I seem to have
fine tuned all the other "stuff".

I am sat at the Santo Porto Marina office (web access) just trying to
work out a way to best recover the situation and how to sell this
boat! I am recovered form the last "jaunt" from Portugal but a bit at
a loss to know what to do next. I think I need to get Cirrus to the
canary Islands and put the yacht in the hands of a broker but I am not
sure which bit of the Canaries will be the best for selling a small
yacht. I guess one of the more "popular" islands ie Tenerife or
Lanzarote.
I shall do some research on the internet and try to find a solution.

Regards

John
 
Oct 30, 2011
221
Thanks Craig, I have looked very carefully at options other than
selling Cirrus.. I actually love the boat and when I was cruising
down the Portuguese Rias (day sailing) it was truly wonderful. I set
off from Fuingerilla da foz with the intention of going south a bit
and then deciding if I turn right for the Canaries or left for the
Med. (I had provisioned and planned for both) - I made the decision
to turn right and I think, on reflection, it was the wrong thing to
do. If I had turned for the Med I think I would still be 'en route"!
Such is life!

Getting to the Med is possible from here but the winds and the
currents are not favourable and I am not really feeling up to a long
tough passage. It is hard to explain the feeling of isolation I get
after 2 or 3 days at sea. I feel like a caged animal and start trying
everything I know to get more speed out of the yacht. I have got
pretty good at trimming the sails and she is a surprisingly fast
little yacht but 120 nm a day just feels like a snails pace when I
have 400 miles to go... I guess maybe I am not cut out for "long
distance" cruising... wrong psychological make up!

Any thoughts on how to get myself out of this pickle would be
appreciated! :)

John
 
Sep 13, 2002
203
Why not take your time pottering up the coast of Morrocco?

Essaouira is a great place to chill out (I was there last winter, though not in a boat - ‘Essaouira Harbour at Night’ by Alisdair Gurney), and if you want a buzz take the bus to Marrakech.

Great people, and isolated from the political problems further east.

Work your way north to the Med when the weather suits.

Alisdair
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Hi John

It is only a week and the the scheme of things a mere drop in the ocean. You
will be sorry if you sell Cirrus

My thoughts only

Steve B
 
Mar 27, 2015
20
Hi John

If you work your way back to the Med you have some options. If you continue to the Canaries you paint yourself into a corner. Time-wise there may not be that much of a difference. Option-wise the difference is huge.

Best of luck either way....

Sam
 
Sep 13, 2002
203
.. and don't do anything in a hasty, tropical storm Gordon's heading your way and is expected to be a hurricane as it passes eastwards past the south of the Azores.

Alisdair
 
Oct 30, 2011
221
goodness me - really!

Well I guess that may explain some of the unseasonal weather... I
have made a decision and I have booked a flight home on Monday. The
yacht will stay here - (he has agreed 50% discount! ) until I return
in the spring and sail it to the Med with a crew member to help. I
think that is the most sensible thing to do and I have got a great
deal on the storage charges to keep it here for 9 months including
lift out and back. All is well that ends well - all I need to do now
is write it all up! (so far...)

Feeling much better about everything now that I have sorted out my
predicament.

Thanks once again to all for the helpful advice.

John
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
Sounds like your boat will get strong easterly or north easterly winds.
If it is on screw jack stands be sure they have chained them together. I
never leave my boat on the hard with out checking for chains and locked
hatches as you could get lots of rain and an open hatch could fill the
bilges. Doug
 

n4lbl

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Oct 7, 2008
307
Consider removing the plug at the base of the keel (and remember where you
put it!). For my own selfish reasons I hope you take your log and notes
with you as that might feed more e-mails.

best,,,
Alan
 
Oct 30, 2011
221
I have enough in my diary to write a book - a very amusing one I
think! Steve Birch was right - I just need a bit of time to relax and
sort things out. I have a good friend who is an experienced sailor
and he may be able to come with me from here to Gibraltar so that will
make the trip much more manageable for me.

Cirrus will be on a cradle in the yard - is there anything special I
need to do before I leave her for 9 months. I will leave the solar
panel to keep the batteries topped up and the oil and filter has just
been changed.

The fuel tank has just been filled to the top and I noticed that it
only took just over 5 gallons (25 lt) I thought it was an 8 gallon
tank? (standard plastic tank in the keel)... the dipstick / floaty
thing was right at the bottom so I assumed it was empty! What is
going on there I wonder?

All I need to do now is pack my personal stuff and get rid of any
perishable food and then book a ticket on the ferry to Funchal
(Madeira) to get to the airport.

What a time I have had... I will reflect on what has happened so far
and get my diary typed up. Once again my sincere thanks to all of you
who have offered advice and support - it has been more helpful than
you may realise.

I may even own up to what happened half way here and why I diverted to
Porto Santo instead of sailing, as planned, to the Canary
Islands..... oh dear!!!!!

Cabin boy John
 

n4lbl

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Oct 7, 2008
307
Are so-called "stabilizing" fuel additives available? They are supposed to
prevent dragons from growing in the diesel over time.
 
Oct 5, 2009
15
???? Look John...All these are expected symptoms...my humble advice is to read about them?at http://www.sfbaysss.org/tipsbook/�, as the author has delt with them . I insist that you should take the time and read this...
???? Hung on tight , after all it is only your self you have to deal with and not the wind , the sea?, the fate or whatever... No one is chasing you , do it your way...
?
???If you end up passing trought the Corinthian Golf / GREECE , I would be huppy to meet you.?(email...)
??? The same goes for?Marco Baldan as well...
?
Thanasis


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Thanks Marco, I think I should have turned left into the Med now......?
but I think it is a very difficult sail from Madeira to Gibraltar??
Head winds maybe - not sure... anyone know?
I have to say I am feeling better by the minute and just enjoying?
answering emails and sitting on "steady" ground having a coffee and a?
smoke.? I think I am also very homesick..? and I did not realise how?
much I would miss my family and home - I shall sit down and try to?
rationalise how I feel about all this but at the moment I would rather?
poke a needle in my eye than go back out to sea!? The isolation just?
drives me insane...

If anyone can think of a way to get the boat back to the Med (or the?
UK) I would be very interested - as long as it does not involve me?
sailing into more headwinds and bad weather!

...... by the way, thank you all so much for your help, advice and?
support.? I do actually get quite lonely out here and it is so good to?
get emails from group members.? I shall write up the "epic" tail as?
soon as I can - I type very slowly!
 
Oct 2, 2005
465
John,
I have looked forward to your posts. You have made me laugh out loud (to the consternation of my wife). I will buy your book, and then will look forward to the next adventure in the coming months. Wishing you the very best, and congratulations on your accomplishment.

Craig
 
Oct 30, 2019
1,459
John, add a little fuel biocide to the tank. That way you'll avoid any bacterial growth in there while you're away.
I applaud your decision, things will look a whole lot better when you've stepped away for a bit.
Peter
www.sintacha.com