Finding a Mechanic to Diagnose a Perkins - Mid Chesapeake

4arch

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Jun 29, 2010
101
Beneteau Oceanis 400 Baltimore
I have a Perkins Prima M50 at 3,600 hours with several issues that are starting to impact its reliability. I have not had much luck finding a mechanic willing to diagnose / work on this engine and have gotten much conflicting advice.

In the spring the engine was smoking (blue-gray) heavily on startup and putting a small amount of unburnt diesel in the exhaust water. I had the injectors rebuilt and this seemed to take care of the diesel in water situation but did not resolve the smoking. Since then, the engine has been getting harder and harder to start. Strangely, when it was fifty degrees ambient (before the injector rebuild) it would start right up but now that it is warm out it is difficult and seems to be getting worse.

I’ve had varying advice to rebuild the injector pump, replace the piston rings, replace the valve guides, or re-bore and replace the pistons. Alternatively I have been told a 3,600 hour engine probably doesn’t need rings or piston work but may have glazed cylinders. I have also been told I shouldn’t sink another dollar into this obsolete 21 year old engine and should simply repower. Other issues include the Hurth transmission being due for a rebuild or replacement, the timing belt needing to be replaced, and the glow plugs needing replacement.

I don’t have time or the knowledge to troubleshoot all this myself. I might be able to put 25% or less of the cost of a repower into this engine and get a lot more hours/years out of it, but I don’t want to spend twice that figuring out where I should have spent the first half! Does anyone have a recommendation for a good diesel mechanic in the Baltimore/Annapolis area?
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,048
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Re: Finding a Mechanic to Diagnose a Perkins - Mid Chesapeak

Sounds like you've been given a lot of speculation and not much useful info. If the engine has had regular oil and filter changes, the mechanics of it should be fine. If the valve clearance has not been verified/set, that would be a good thing to get done before pressing on. You'll need a good diesel guy to do that and do other things like a compression check if the problem persists. I hope someone on the forum has a good, fair diesel mechanic reference.. Good luck!
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,982
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Re: Finding a Mechanic to Diagnose a Perkins - Mid Chesapeak

He found a rec on crusiersforum. But if you have others, I know he'd like to hear.
 

4arch

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Jun 29, 2010
101
Beneteau Oceanis 400 Baltimore
Re: Finding a Mechanic to Diagnose a Perkins - Mid Chesapeak

I called the recs from CF and unfortunately they only work in/near Annapolis and won't come to me in Baltimore - so I'm still looking.
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
Re: Finding a Mechanic to Diagnose a Perkins - Mid Chesapeak

try contacting lincoln welding machine repair companies and see if they have someone who works on perkins engines ....lincoln used a lot of them in there 250 amp machines at one time and so did some forklift companies
 
Nov 26, 2008
1,970
Endeavour 42 Cruisin
Trans Atlantic Diesel is in Kilmarnock, Va just south of the Potomac. They are THE Perkins experts. Call them and they will have recco's for your area. Good people.
 
May 24, 2004
7,164
CC 30 South Florida
Re: Finding a Mechanic to Diagnose a Perkins - Mid Chesapeak

Sounds like weak compression but it is hard to diagnose online. It might be a longshot but it might be worth to use a trick to reduce smoking and raise compression by thickening the engine oil. There are various oil additives in the market which will increase viscosity. You are saying the engine started well when the ambient temperatures were colder but now that they have warmed up is hard to start. Oil will thicken in low temperatures and thin in high ones. Thin oil will not create as good a seal for the piston rings and will result in smoking and low compression in a well worn engine. If it works at least you will know that the engine needs a rebuild. If it does not make a difference then you may continue on your quest for a diagnosis for hard starting. If it is not compression then the fuel system would likely be the culprit.