Filling Fresh Water tanks

Nov 13, 2020
89
Hunter H34 Chesapeake Bay
I want to drain my water tanks so I can perform the clorox shocking. One of the tank valves was open and the other closed. I opened the sink faucet until it was spitting a little water and mostly air. I then closed that valve and opened the other and did the same. Was that the correct process?

I now want to fill the tanks and put the clorox solution in both tanks. However, I only see one deck fill. How does filling both tanks work and how do I ensure I get the clorox solution in both tanks?

Thanks

John
 

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Sep 13, 2020
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Hunter 36 Bayport Yachting Center
even stupider question .... what's a Chlorox shock of the water tanks, and what's the purpose/how often do you need to do it?
 
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Dec 14, 2003
1,401
Hunter 34 Lake of Two Mountains, QC, Can
Yes that is how I empty them also and it works fine. But you will not be able to get everything out as the outlet tubing is about 1 inch higher than the bottom of the tank. Not an issue as I used non-toxic antifreeze in the Winter and flush thoroughly after doing the Clorox treatment in the Spring. The H34 has 2 water deck fills: one about midship on port side, the other under the stern hinged step leading to the ladder. The clorox treatment is normally done when commissionning the system or if the system got contaminated and needs to be re-commissioned.
 
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Nov 13, 2020
89
Hunter H34 Chesapeake Bay
Stupid question but.... there aren't separate fills on deck for each tank?
Looking at the plumbing diagram from the manual, I expected to find one for each tank. I found the one amidships on the port side, but I didn't see one aft.
 
Nov 13, 2020
89
Hunter H34 Chesapeake Bay
Yes that is how I empty them also and it works fine. But you will not be able to get everything out as the outlet tubing is about 1 inch higher than the bottom of the tank. Not an issue as I used non-toxic antifreeze in the Winter and flush thoroughly after doing the Clorox treatment in the Spring. The H34 has 2 water deck fills: one about midship on port side, the other under the stern hinged step leading to the ladder. The clorox treatment is normally done when commissionning the system or if the system got contaminated and needs to be re-commissioned.
Thanks much Claude. Ah, under the the step. I didn't look there.

Do you find that the clorox solution and rinsing afterwards takes care of the antifreeze taste?
 
Dec 14, 2003
1,401
Hunter 34 Lake of Two Mountains, QC, Can
Thanks much Claude. Ah, under the the step. I didn't look there.

Do you find that the clorox solution and rinsing afterwards takes care of the antifreeze taste?
Yes it does but I do rinse thoroughly, more than once if needed. In fact, when I reach the point where I think it's rinsed properly, I fill a glass of water coming straight out of the galley faucet, put a light behind it and look for anything (or color) that might be in the water. If nothing, I take a sip and taste. If I don't like it, I flush again. While I generally do not drink water coming from the tanks but do not hesitate to brush my teeth or cook with it. That of course assumes that your tanks are emptied by usage and refilled regularly.
 
Oct 22, 2014
21,104
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Your on the correct path @drm1. Follow the concentrations instructions.
  • DO not think that because a little Clorox bleach is good a lot it better. It is not.:yikes:
  • DO let the solutions in the tanks sit for the recommended time.
  • Do run water through all of the faucets and lines to spread the solution through out the system.
  • Do take the boat out for a short trip about the bay. Your test boat run will stir the water about in the tanks. Might be a great time to let a new crew member try their chance at the helm.
  • You can then begin the pumping out while you head back to the dock. I find that the tanks are just about empty when I get back to the slip.
Then I fill with fresh water and let it sit a bit (about the time to sip a beer) to absorb the bleach and then pump. I like Claude's fill and look before you taste technique. I usually go by smell. Be sure to flush out all of the lines with fresh water. Once the rinsing feels complete, let the water sit in the tanks for a day or so. The bleach will dissipate and your system is ready for the new sailing season. Added bonus, while you were cruising shaking the water up you were training a new helms person. Now you have a trained person to spell you at the helm. Give you a chance to get a bit of rest, sit back and watch the water go by.:dancing:
 

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Nov 12, 2012
692
Hunter 34 Portsmouth
you are better to use the lavatory sink for emptying the tanks. disconnect hot & cold lines at the water heater for a low point drain for the entire system with all valves open
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,735
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Followed Peggie Hall's recommissioning water tank recommendations when we first took possession of our boat in 2002. Never had to do it since and the water remains clean and fresh tasting. Her procedure is published as follows:

"Recommission the system at least annually

This is all it takes to keep onboard water safe, and tasting/smelling as good as any that comes out of faucets on land: Fresh water system problems--foul odor or taste--are typically caused by allowing water to stagnate in the system. Although most people think only in terms of the tank, the plumbing is actually the source of most foul water, because the molds, mildew, fungi and bacteria which cause it thrive in damp dark places, not under water. Many people—and even some boat manufacturers—believe that keeping the tanks empty reduce the problem, but an empty water tank only provides another damp dark home for those “critters.” There are all kinds of products sold that claim to keep onboard water fresh, but all that’s really necessary is an annual or in especially warm climates, semi-annual recommissioning of the entire system—tank and plumbing. The following recommendations conform to section 10.8 in the A-1 192 code covering electrical, plumbing, and heating of recreational vehicles. The solution is approved and recommended by competent health officials. It may be used in a new system a used one that has not been used for a period of time, or one that may have been contaminated. Before beginning, turn off hot water heater at the breaker; do not turn it on again until the entire recommissioning is complete. Icemakers should be left running to allow cleaning out of the water feed line; however the first two buckets of ice—the bucket generated during recommissioning and the first bucketful afterward--should be discarded. 1. Prepare a chlorine solution using one gallon of water and 1/2 cup (4 oz) Clorox or Purex household bleach (5% sodium Hypochlorite solution ). With tank empty, pour chlorine solution into tank. Use one gallon of solution for each 5 gallons of tank capacity. 2. Complete filling of tank with fresh water. Open each faucet and drain cock until air has been released and the entire system is filled. Do not turn off the pump; it must remain on to keep the system pressurized and the solution in the lines 3. Allow to stand for at least three hours, but no longer than 24 hours. 4 Drain through every faucet on the boat (and if you haven't done this in a while, it's a good idea to remove any diffusion screens from the faucets, because what's likely to come out will clog them). Fill the tank again with fresh water only, drain again through every faucet on the boat. 5. To remove excess chlorine taste or odor which might remain, prepare a solution of one quart white vinegar to five gallons water and allow this solution to agitate in tank for several days by vehicle motion. 6. Drain tank again through every faucet, and flush the lines again by fill the tank 1/4-1/2 full and again flushing with potable water. People have expressed concern about using this method to recommission aluminum tanks. While bleach (chlorine) IS corrosive, it’s effects are are cumulative. So the effect of an annual or semi-annual "shock treatment" is negligible compared to the cumulative effect of holding chlorinated city water in the tank for years. Nevertheless, it's a good idea to mix the total amount of bleach in a few gallons of water before putting it into either a stainless or aluminum tank. People have also expressed concern about the potential damage to rubber and neoprene water pump parts. Again—the cumulative effect of carrying chlorinated water is far more damaging over time than the occasional “shock treatment.” And it’s that cumulative effect that makes it a VERY bad idea to add a little bleach to each fill. Not only does it damage the system, but unless you add enough to make your water taste and smell like a laundry, it’s not enough to do any good. Even if it were, any “purifying” properties in chlorine evaporate within 24 hours, leaving behind only the corrosive properties. An annual or semi-annual recommissioning according to the above directions is all that should be necessary to keep your water tasting and smelling as good as anything that comes out of any faucet on land. If you need to improve on that, install a water filter. Just remember that a filter is not a substitute for cleaning out the system, and that filters require regular inspection and cleaning or replacement. To keep the water system cleaner longer, use your fresh water...keep water flowing through system. The molds, fungi, and bacteria only start to grow in hoses that aren't being used. Before filling the tank each time, always let the dock water run for at least 15 minutes first...the same critters that like the lines on your boat LOVE the dock supply line and your hose that sit in the warm sun, and you certainly don't want to transfer water that's been sitting in the dock supply line to your boat's system. So let the water run long enough to flush out all the water that's been standing in them so that what goes into your boat is coming straight from the water main. Finally, while the molds, fungi and bacteria in onboard water systems here in the US may not be pleasant, we're dealing only with aesthetics...water purity isn't an issue here--or in most developed nations...the water supply has already been purified (unless you're using well-water). However, when cruising out of the country, it's a good idea to know what you're putting in your tanks...and if you're in any doubt, boil all water that's to be drunk or used to wash dishes, and/or treat each tankful to purify. It's even more important in these areas to let the water run before putting it in the tank, because any harmful bacteria will REALLY proliferate in water hoses left sitting on the dock."
 
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Jan 24, 2017
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Hunter 34 Toms River Nj
water fill for port tank is near the port side window above the sink,
Aft tank maybe in a few locations. Inside aft locket, under the teak cover for tiller access plate, or on top of the cockpit gunnel.

Below deck in front of the port side water tank is a selector valve for which tank is to be used.
Hope this helps
 
Nov 13, 2020
89
Hunter H34 Chesapeake Bay
Thanks all for the responses.

I did this on Saturday and for the most part, seems to be a success. I even tasted some water from the kitchen faucet.

My only concern is I'm not certain I was able to completely fill the port side tank. It seemed to take a lot less time to fill and empty than the aft tank. Yet, the side tank is supposed to be 35 gallons and the aft tank 30. I filled it until the water overflowed out the fill cap and the hose from the deck to the tank was full. Is there a situation that would present those conditions yet the tank not be full?

John