Fighter Jets distorting GPSreading?

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Jan 13, 2006
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If they don't

then they should have something to throw off enemy aircraft anyway possible. Those boys are the cream of the crop, and putting it all on the line.(and having a ellofagoodtime flying that stuff) Practicing with, screw the sailors up as a byproduct, technology, is OK by me. I hope they have stuff to throw off all local navagation. But to answer the question, I dunno, cool to think that's what it was. And quit sailing through the parking lot!
 
May 18, 2004
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J-boat 42 conn. river
in the ANNAPOLIS area anythings possible!

several years ago when gps was just getting started i still had loran, as i still do as a backup, when i would get about 2 or 3 miles north of the bay bridge i could count on my loran going ape shit and telling me i was sailing thru Sydney harbor or some such baloney at 800 knots. the huge submarine comm towers on the point would totally screw up loran signals with in a 7 to 8 mile radius. towers are gone now and no longer a problem to loran. its anybody's guess what may be now transmitted in that area. could it be something that the gov says isn't there or we're imagining it? Nah!!!!! they wouldn't do anything like that!!!!! S/V Que Pasa?
 
May 18, 2004
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J-boat 42 conn. river
Benny and Jo !

benny; it could very well be a chesie thing. keep in mind that there are numerous gov. research facilities on the western shore of the chesie. Aberdeen proving grounds, which extends from spesutie island to Poole's island, roughly 25 nm. Lockheed-martin in middle river, a couple of installations around Annapolis. a couple of installations in the patuxent river area. I'm sure there are lots more. GPS and loran are both radio signals and as such are subject to interference. the gov facilities may not even realize they are intermittently interfering for short periods of time. yesterday did a delivery of friends new boat from annapolis to havre de grace. my friend mentioned that he has lost his GPS several times off aberdeen. jo; we don't have airlines and as such we don't have numerous redundant backups. i use my loran and GPS. the loran was there first and works just fine and is permanently mounted in my companion way for easy reading from the helm. why would i want to get rid of it and solely depend on GPS. especially since my GPS is a hand held and is subject to the batteries running down and the power hookup makes it a little inconvenient to use all the time. S/V Que Pasa?
 
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Alain Pascal

I might be wayyy off but...

I might be way off and my apologies if I am, but can a moderator actually close this thread? I think the question from Mulf was interesting but really I am reading the comments and some are ...less then polite, most are off topic and/or providing little valid information for the question that was ask. Certainly the tone is not always friendly . I, for one, visit this site because it is informative, amusing, and I appreciate chatting with feloow boaters. The comments on this thread do not meet any of the above, sorry don't mean to be rude here. Cheers, a.
 

Johann

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Jun 3, 2004
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Leopard 39 Pensacola
capn jim

I totally agree. I also use a handheld for sailing and have had it lose satellite locks from time to time. My post was specifically direct at one individual. Sorry if I didnt make that clear. As far as the issue of whether the gps position will stand still, or continue on a DR course after losing enough satellites, try this test. With your handheld on your dashboard, pull into your garage at about 5 mph. See if your gps stops, or continues plotting you driving through your house. Mine is about 50/50. Sometimes it will go so far as to have me traveling down another road behind my neighbors house. I'm sure the degree to which this occurs is unit dependent.
 
Jun 5, 2004
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Catalina 380 Seabrook, TX
Abe, I Wholeheartedly Disagree

Abe, you stated, "We civilians tap into it (in fact the whole world taps into it) and not pay anything to the USA". I'm sorry, but every April 15th, I pay a helluva lot to the USA. So don't say we don't pay for it...
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I googled gps interferance and got this:

Active Notices Please read the GPS Interference notices regarding interference testing, exercises and training activities that may affect GPS receivers. Overview of the US Federal Government's Policy on Activities Which May Cause Interference to GPS: On occasion, the US Federal Government is required to conduct GPS interference tests, exercises and training activities that involve jamming of GPS receivers. These events go through a lengthy coordination process involving the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the US Coast Guard (USCG), the Department of Defense (DoD) and other government agencies. Due to the fact that these training and testing activities can involve a number of aircraft, ships and/or other military equipment and up to hundreds of personnel, cancellation or postponement of a coordinated test should only occur under compelling circumstances. In general, only safety-of-life/safety-of-flight conflicts warrant cancellation or postponement of a coordinated interference test. In the event that an interference activity compromises a safety-of-life mission, procedures exist to protect those involved. If a Lifeguard (medical evacuation flight), fire-fighting mission, or other aviation-related activity where GPS navigation is essential is impacted the conflict should be reported to the nearest FAA Air Traffic Control (ATC) facility. FAA will issue ”cease buzzer” (stop jamming) notification to the tester. All testers are required to set up a point of contact reachable via telephone throughout the testing period. Non-aviation related safety-of-life activities that require immediate cessation of GPS interference tests should be reported to the USCG Navigation Center (NAVCEN). The NAVCEN will either issue the “cease buzzer” or relay it to the FAA for issuance. In the event that a safety-of-life conflict is anticipated, but not immediate, the affected GPS user should notify the USCG NAVCEN. An example of this is firefighting activities that may spread to testing areas. In some instances, the USCG may choose to put the tester directly in contact with the affected GPS user. In other cases, the USCG may choose to notify the appropriate government official to resolve the conflict. When attempting to resolve such a conflict, the interests of both parties must be taken into account. Conflict resolution considerations: What is the safety issue involved? Is there an alternative, non-GPS method to perform the activity? What are the implications to National Security if the test, training or exercise is terminated or postponed? For both parties, what is the purpose of the activity? For both parties, how many individuals or systems are affected? For both parties, what are the economic implications? Is it possible for either party to reschedule to another date or set of dates? Is it possible for either party to only use a portion of the dates they require? Is it possible for either party to use different or fewer times of day than in the original request? The answers to these questions will http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/gps/gpsnotices/default.htm
 
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Kaizen

Electronics

Don't completely rely on electronics! Prepare for and get a second opinion. These guys (see link below) don't use electronics and have been around the world. They don't even have an outboard! http://www.landlpardey.com/Where/Where_Now.html
 
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