Just did the paperwork for Federal Documentation. What should I use for numbers and where is the best place to have them placed?
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Mickey Goodman
Documentation Numbers
You don't have to display the numbers on the exterior of the boat but do have to display them inside the cabin. My boat has the numbers routed out in a nice piece of teak and screwed to a wall in the cabin. Looks good and meets the display requirements.
You don't have to display the numbers on the exterior of the boat but do have to display them inside the cabin. My boat has the numbers routed out in a nice piece of teak and screwed to a wall in the cabin. Looks good and meets the display requirements.
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Walt G.
Number location
Hi, I don't believe that there's a requirement for documentation numbers to be in plain view. But they must be permanently affixed the vessel, and I believe in a non-removable manner (or at least, not very easily removable manner). Mine are ground into the fiberglass of the starboard lazarette. The you should be able to get a definitive answer from the CG documentation web page, or maybe from the paperwork that came along with your document number.
Hi, I don't believe that there's a requirement for documentation numbers to be in plain view. But they must be permanently affixed the vessel, and I believe in a non-removable manner (or at least, not very easily removable manner). Mine are ground into the fiberglass of the starboard lazarette. The you should be able to get a definitive answer from the CG documentation web page, or maybe from the paperwork that came along with your document number.
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Les Murray
Check the archives
Nick, This subject comes up about every three months, so there should be plenty of ideas in the archives. What most people are doing is using self-adhesive numbers, attaching them to the hull or a bulkhead, and then covering them with a coat of clear epoxy (that's how mine are). Others will take a routed teak board and glue it to a bulkhead. The key thing is that the numbers be attached in a way that it would be very evident if someone tried to remove them. Les Murray s/v Ceilidh 86 C-36 #560
Nick, This subject comes up about every three months, so there should be plenty of ideas in the archives. What most people are doing is using self-adhesive numbers, attaching them to the hull or a bulkhead, and then covering them with a coat of clear epoxy (that's how mine are). Others will take a routed teak board and glue it to a bulkhead. The key thing is that the numbers be attached in a way that it would be very evident if someone tried to remove them. Les Murray s/v Ceilidh 86 C-36 #560
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Carl and Juliana Dupre
Documentation Number
Hi, Nick. Exactly what you need to do for documentation number display has been the topic of some discussion here previously, so before posting this answer I made a quick check with a friend of ours who is in the Coast Guard Auxilliary and does the free inspections that the CGA offers. The number must be permanently affixed to the boat in some manner, and it must be accessible and visible, but not necessarily openly displayed. "Permanently affixed" means that it must be bonded to the boat in some manner such that if someone removes the number, the process of removal will create obvious and recognizable damage. The numbers must be in 3-inch block style, and must be preceded by "No.". We purchased stick-on vinyl letters and numbers from WM, stuck them on the hull inside the starboard settee in the salon, and then covered them with several layers of clear epoxy. The number is now literally part of the hull. They are plainly and obviously visible if the settee is opened, which does meet the CG requirement. If you check the archives you will find many who have done something similar to this. On the other hand, many others have done what Mickey Goodman suggested, and a nice engraved wooden plaque is certainly an aesthetically attractive way to satisfy the CG regs. Carl and Jule s/v 'Syzygy'
Hi, Nick. Exactly what you need to do for documentation number display has been the topic of some discussion here previously, so before posting this answer I made a quick check with a friend of ours who is in the Coast Guard Auxilliary and does the free inspections that the CGA offers. The number must be permanently affixed to the boat in some manner, and it must be accessible and visible, but not necessarily openly displayed. "Permanently affixed" means that it must be bonded to the boat in some manner such that if someone removes the number, the process of removal will create obvious and recognizable damage. The numbers must be in 3-inch block style, and must be preceded by "No.". We purchased stick-on vinyl letters and numbers from WM, stuck them on the hull inside the starboard settee in the salon, and then covered them with several layers of clear epoxy. The number is now literally part of the hull. They are plainly and obviously visible if the settee is opened, which does meet the CG requirement. If you check the archives you will find many who have done something similar to this. On the other hand, many others have done what Mickey Goodman suggested, and a nice engraved wooden plaque is certainly an aesthetically attractive way to satisfy the CG regs. Carl and Jule s/v 'Syzygy'
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Tom
Mickey, If your Documentation numbers are just
screwed to a wall in the cabin then you do not meet regulations. The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area. Now if you epoxied it to the Hull of a Permanent bulkhead... Take a look at the link here........
screwed to a wall in the cabin then you do not meet regulations. The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area. Now if you epoxied it to the Hull of a Permanent bulkhead... Take a look at the link here........
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Mickey Goodman
Tom, My numbers are also bond in.
My numbers are also bonded into the fiberglass under the cover of my bilge. I am "legal"
My numbers are also bonded into the fiberglass under the cover of my bilge. I am "legal"
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Garry @ S/V TASHTEGO
Documentation
The following is from the Coast Guard's National Vessel Documentation Center web site's FAQ section at http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/vdoc/faq.htm ************************************* "The official number assigned to documented vessels, preceded of the abbreviation "NO." must be marked in block-type Arabic numerals at least three inches high on some clearly visible interior structural part of the hull. The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area." ********************************** Those of you mounting your identification numbers inside lockers etc. should consider whether or not you meet the clearly visible part of the "clearly visible interior structural part of the hull" requirement in the first paragraph. Just screwing on the number plank does not appear to meet the requirement that "The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area." The NVDC web site is full of information on documentation. All of the necessary document forms are available on line for you to print out and submit. I have just finished documenting TASHTEGO with virtually no hassles. I forgot to enclose enough money for one of the fees and they called me at home to get it added to the VISA card authorization. Great folks and very helpful.
The following is from the Coast Guard's National Vessel Documentation Center web site's FAQ section at http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/vdoc/faq.htm ************************************* "The official number assigned to documented vessels, preceded of the abbreviation "NO." must be marked in block-type Arabic numerals at least three inches high on some clearly visible interior structural part of the hull. The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area." ********************************** Those of you mounting your identification numbers inside lockers etc. should consider whether or not you meet the clearly visible part of the "clearly visible interior structural part of the hull" requirement in the first paragraph. Just screwing on the number plank does not appear to meet the requirement that "The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area." The NVDC web site is full of information on documentation. All of the necessary document forms are available on line for you to print out and submit. I have just finished documenting TASHTEGO with virtually no hassles. I forgot to enclose enough money for one of the fees and they called me at home to get it added to the VISA card authorization. Great folks and very helpful.
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Dale Wilson
Documentation Numbers
My numbers are simply drilled into the side of the mast support post. They aren't visible as one moves from aft, but easily visible to anyone siting at the table with their back to the bulkhead.
My numbers are simply drilled into the side of the mast support post. They aren't visible as one moves from aft, but easily visible to anyone siting at the table with their back to the bulkhead.
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