Buying and wearing a PLB seems like a good idea. Who has experience with one of these - any information you can share would be appreciated.
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If one falls overboard with other boats within a few miles, then DSC, AIS, and VHF helps a lot. This is likely to be the situation on a lake, or even coastal cruising.If you fall overboard & no one remains onboard, DSC, AIS, VHF won’t help
If one falls overboard with other boats within a few miles, then DSC, AIS, and VHF helps a lot. This is likely to be the situation on a lake, or even coastal cruising.
The response time for a PLB to bring help to a person is a few hours at the quickest. This works well for people lost in the woods, but not as well for people floating in the sea.
Mark
True, but are you going to have that equipment in your possession if you fall overboard & no one is remaining on the boat?If one falls overboard with other boats within a few miles, then DSC, AIS, and VHF helps a lot.
I have exactly the same setup - I purchased mine this year. In going through the AIS vs PLB decision, mine was made by the lack of anybody talking/listening on VHF-FM on my normal sailing grounds. Rumor has it that the CG VHF-FM tower that is supposed to cover my area has been out of commission for over 6 months. To be honest, other than 1 NOAA wx channel, I haven't heard any VHF-FM comms in western Albemarle Sound in 3 years. Same radio works fine in Long Island Sound, and has better range than most handhelds.I purchased one several years ago. Sail single handed mostly. Compact size allows me to Keep it in a pouch in my inflatable pfd. If you fall overboard & no one remains onboard, DSC, AIS, VHF won’t help; so either cell phone or PLB is your lifeline. Manufacturer also markets to outdoorsmen who hunt & hike in remote areas. Have to send it to an authorized service center every five years for recertification & battery replacement at cost of approximately $125. A division of NOAA contacts me annually to update personal info including boat & contacts and provides an update sticker to attach to unit. My understanding is that newer cell phones (I phone) has capability of transmitting distress calls via satellite; however, my phone doesn’t have that feature.
On an inland lake, I suspect the number of boats with VHF radios is small and the number of boats with a GPS on is even smaller.I missed that the OP is boating on a lake. In that case, a PLB is completely useless. One would either drown or swim to shore before help arrived.
A better chance would be with a small DSC radio where a warning would be blasted to everyone with a VHF, and one could talk to them.
Mark
Western Ablemarle Sound isn't exactly a high traffic area. Again, a satellite enabled cell phone would be your best bet.I have exactly the same setup - I purchased mine this year. In going through the AIS vs PLB decision, mine was made by the lack of anybody talking/listening on VHF-FM on my normal sailing grounds. Rumor has it that the CG VHF-FM tower that is supposed to cover my area has been out of commission for over 6 months. To be honest, other than 1 NOAA wx channel, I haven't heard any VHF-FM comms in western Albemarle Sound in 3 years. Same radio works fine in Long Island Sound, and has better range than most handhelds.
Same in the larger TVA lakes - I can spend 4 days cruising from one end to the other, but not a VHF-FM to be heard. So I chose a very small PLB which fits in a pocket in my inflatable so I will have it should I go overboard when sailing single handed.
Fred W
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Really? Which service do you subscribe to for your satellite enabled cell phone? What is the cost? Where does the emergency call go? What is the response time? How complete is the satellite constellation? Are there gaps in coverage? Is it a specific message, or can I use voice? Is the phone watertight enough to use after I tumble overboard? Does the emergency app transmit GPS position?On an inland lake, I suspect the number of boats with VHF radios is small and the number of boats with a GPS on is even smaller.
A modern cell phone with satellite communications for emergencies is the best device for sailing on inland lakes.
Western Ablemarle Sound isn't exactly a high traffic area. Again, a satellite enabled cell phone would be your best bet.
I use ATT with an iPhone. There is no extra charge. I believe it gets routed to a US based emergency response organization which forwards the information to your local 911 center with your GPS location.Which service do you subscribe to for your satellite enabled cell phone? What is the cost? Where does the emergency call go?
I was originally talking about a PAIS, which has a DSC and AIS SART transmission. Ours are part of our lifejackets that automatically deploy and start transmitting when the lifejacket inflates.True, but are you going to have that equipment in your possession if you fall overboard & no one is remaining on the boat?
I don't disagree that a phone is useful, but it does require a waterproof phone and that phone securely attached to the MOB. And the MOB be conscious and able to operate it essentially underwater, or very very wet. And only the most recent phones have satellite communication abilities, and those phones have to have T-mobile plans (at least for Starlink - I don't know if other services have other satellite capability). Then, it would allow a MOB to TEXT numbers they have in their contacts, not call them, and they would have no ability to contact anybody who was nearby.A modern cell phone with satellite communications for emergencies is the best device for sailing on inland lakes.
In that case, it is no different than a PLB, with the exception that the PLB is less expensive, automatically connected to you (if in the lifejacket) and has a full battery when it goes overboard.I use ATT with an iPhone. There is no extra charge. I believe it gets routed to a US based emergency response organization which forwards the information to your local 911 center with your GPS location.
True that is with a mighty big "if". Long Island Sound has you covered with boats and VHF everywhere. I very much enjoyed 2 cruises in Long Island Sound with the Mariner Rendezvous. Very different from my home waters in western Albemarle Sound. Did a 2 day single handed cruise in May, covering 18 miles to Edenton and back. Saw no other sailboats but did see one fishing boat and one dive boat. That was it. The emptiness of Albemarle Sound made me a little nervous, enough to improve my safety gear. I realized any help would have to be triggered, and then would take an hour+ to get to me. Hence the PLB.I was originally talking about a PAIS, which has a DSC and AIS SART transmission. Ours are part of our lifejackets that automatically deploy and start transmitting when the lifejacket inflates.
Then I mentioned the possibility of a handheld DSC VHF connected to a person. More bulky and needs to be attached to the MOB.
Both of those have a greater chance of help arriving much faster than a PLB if there are any other boats within radio distance.
Mark